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Merlyn3D

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I've been playing around with Keynote ever since I switched to an Apple with my MBP. I gotta say, how is powerpoint still alive? Keynote is leaps and bounds better. Everything just looks soooo much nicer.
 

Mo0o

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Other than the "it looks pretty" explanation, what makes keynote better? What new features does it add
 

Anonemous

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Other than the "it looks pretty" explanation, what makes keynote better? What new features does it add

the transitions look prettier/flashier?

/still uses Powerpoint...
 

frank84

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Merlyn3D, if it is better I want to know.
cuz, i never used Keynote and I would like to know how it is better than Powerpoint

you didnt quite explain why it's better.. or why you like it better

edit :: hold on.. is this guy really banned?
 

Merlyn3D

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Originally posted by: frank84
Merlyn3D, if it is better I want to know.
cuz, i never used Keynote and I would like to know how it is better than Powerpoint

you didnt quite explain why it's better.. or why you like it better

edit :: hold on.. is this guy really banned?

No, that's my sig...Keynote gives you more control over animations. Presentations are all about looks, and it does look better. I'm able to do things in keynote (timings, animation-wise) that I can't do with powerpoint, and they just look much better to boot.
 

Merlyn3D

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All I can say is if you use a Mac and you use Powerpoint, for your next presentation give Keynote a shot, I think you'll really be impressed with Keynote 3. You get the feeling that Apple just gets presentations better than MS.
 

loup garou

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Originally posted by: Merlyn3D
Presentations are all about looks, and it does look better.
Um, wow.
If that doesn't nail the Apple user stereotype, I don't know what does.
 

kranky

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Originally posted by: Merlyn3D
I've been playing around with Keynote ever since I switched to an Apple with my MBP. I gotta say, how is powerpoint still alive? Keynote is leaps and bounds better. Everything just looks soooo much nicer.

If Keynote was 100 times better than Powerpoint, Powerpoint would still be alive simply because Keynote only runs on Apple's OS.
 

rivan

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Originally posted by: kranky
Originally posted by: Merlyn3D
I've been playing around with Keynote ever since I switched to an Apple with my MBP. I gotta say, how is powerpoint still alive? Keynote is leaps and bounds better. Everything just looks soooo much nicer.

If Keynote was 100 times better than Powerpoint, Powerpoint would still be alive simply because Keynote only runs on Apple's OS.

It'd be hard to come up with anything that makes the point better than that.
 

BrokenVisage

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Originally posted by: Merlyn3D
Presentations are all about looks, and it does look better.

Flash and good looks may be great for impressing your High School teachers, but as someone who regularly goes through the Powerpoint's from employees at major companies and law firms, I can tell you that the majority of presentations I see are more informative then anything. At the most they have embedded tables and graphs, but almost none of them have any kind of fancy transition, sounds, or pictures flying across the screen. Most of them "look good" because they are very well formatted and put together, but if you think that people at your next board meeting are gonna care about how shiny the finished product looks you need to think again. Presentation of information is what it's all about, if you start trying to impress people with clever transitions and catchy designs then you'll inevitably lose track of the main reason for having a presentation like this, which is displaying content in a clean and concise manner to a group of people while talking about it as a presenter.
 

MrBond

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Originally posted by: BrokenVisage

Flash and good looks may be great for impressing your High School teachers, but as someone who regularly goes through the Powerpoint's from employees at major companies and law firms, I can tell you that the majority of presentations I see are more informative then anything. At the most they have embedded tables and graphs, but almost none of them have any kind of fancy transition, sounds, or pictures flying across the screen.
This is true. The only animation you should ever use in a presentation is the "Appear" animation. Sometimes it's nice to have your points appear one at a time as you talk about them.

I don't even like using that unless I have a remote, because I like to walk around as I talk, and it's easier to not have to keep going to the laptop.
 

LS20

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while i havent used keynote, i have to say... PPT is a SHlTE product. no problems with excel... word has some annoyances (actually, many).. but ppt is shlt software
 

Chunkee

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There is another product, that can embed PPT presentations, but also can do a great deal more, for queuing, embedded clips etc.

sounds strange, but we use it at church. It is called EZ Worship...

you can download free trial version, there is also another called Media Shout, but it is not as good as ezworship

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Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: Merlyn3D
Presentations are all about looks, and it does look better.

Flash and good looks may be great for impressing your High School teachers, but as someone who regularly goes through the Powerpoint's from employees at major companies and law firms, I can tell you that the majority of presentations I see are more informative then anything. At the most they have embedded tables and graphs, but almost none of them have any kind of fancy transition, sounds, or pictures flying across the screen. Most of them "look good" because they are very well formatted and put together, but if you think that people at your next board meeting are gonna care about how shiny the finished product looks you need to think again. Presentation of information is what it's all about, if you start trying to impress people with clever transitions and catchy designs then you'll inevitably lose track of the main reason for having a presentation like this, which is displaying content in a clean and concise manner to a group of people while talking about it as a presenter.

yup...most of my presentations consist of text, a few pics and a few charts/graphs. As long as its formatted properly and the presentation flows well, what more do you need?
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Presentation of information is what it's all about, if you start trying to impress people with clever transitions and catchy designs then you'll inevitably lose track of the main reason for having a presentation like this, which is displaying content in a clean and concise manner to a group of people while talking about it as a presenter.
I had to read that 3 times to understand it. Your run-on sentence was poor presentation of your idea. But, your idea is correct.

Beginners and people who won't make it far in business use pretty presentation slides with animation (and God-forbid sound effects). Professionals who are great speakers and who make it big time do not use any of those tricks.

Why? When you are doing a business presentation do you want them to remember (1) your information or (2) your animation? You can't have people remember both, the real world just doesn't work that way. A good presenter will have the crowd remember the information. Second question: when you are up for promotion do you want them to remember great animations or a great presenter? If all they remember about you is that somehow you came across fancy animations, you won't be getting that promotion. If they remember that you are a charasmatic presenter, you will get the promotion.

Slides are there to reinforce you. They aren't there to do the presentation for you. You want the audience looking at you most of the time, and NOT at the slides. Animations do the exact opposite of what a great presenter wants and needs.
 

mercanucaribe

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Originally posted by: loup garou
Originally posted by: Merlyn3D
Presentations are all about looks, and it does look better.
Um, wow.
If that doesn't nail the Apple user stereotype, I don't know what does.

So what in Powerpoint makes it better? The ugly text and goofy clip art and stupid transitions? What is a presentation about besides looking nice? I bet you're going to say content--- as if Powerpoint makes your content better than Keynote.
 

loup garou

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: loup garou
Originally posted by: Merlyn3D
Presentations are all about looks, and it does look better.
Um, wow.
If that doesn't nail the Apple user stereotype, I don't know what does.

So what in Powerpoint makes it better? The ugly text and goofy clip art? What is a presentation about besides looking nice? I bet you're going to say content--- as if Powerpoint makes your content better than Keynote.
Way to keep up with the thread.
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: dullard
I had to read that 3 times to understand it. Your run-on sentence was poor presentation of your idea. But, your idea is correct.

Not sure why you had to read it 3 times... although it was a run-on sentence ( first comma should've been a semi-colon or period~), the first phrase/"sentence" stated his point.

But other than that, I think we both agree with what he said. I know sitting here in the corporate world, they don't care if things look pretty.. they want the right in formation on the screen in a certain format to best display it to the target audience. Whether or not that appears in a whiz-bang-bam-boom fashion is not necessary and sometimes it detracts from the overall presentation as you spend more time waiting for things to become visible and stationary than on the presentation itself.