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Key figure in anti-Kerry campaign retracts criticism
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How can you criticize a man for serving his country. Its war, not black and white obvious. Sometimes things get dirty. If he hadn't shot the man (even ifit had been in the back. I don't know if it was) that man could have later killed them. That's what war is like. To insinuate he doesn't deserve praise for his service is a slap in the face to every one serving in the current military (all those folks in in iraq).
that was quick.
i think kerry's war record is worth looking at but...i mean, dear lord, it was vietnam. i cant possibly sit around and be like "he did the wrong thing!"
i have no idea what happened and to be honest, the mere fact that he served his country during such a hideous time is enough for me to get the amount of boost that any amount of deep probe into his military career would.
i find it weak that the administration even decided to ever look too closely at his record when they have a very weak stance in actual military/war experience.
i think kerry's war record is worth looking at but...i mean, dear lord, it was vietnam. i cant possibly sit around and be like "he did the wrong thing!"
i have no idea what happened and to be honest, the mere fact that he served his country during such a hideous time is enough for me to get the amount of boost that any amount of deep probe into his military career would.
i find it weak that the administration even decided to ever look too closely at his record when they have a very weak stance in actual military/war experience.
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Well to be honest there were many men that went to Viet Nam, not because they wanted to or supported the war, but because they had no choice. I can assure you that if they had the opportunity to stay behind and serve in the guard they would have taken that over going to Nam in a heartbeat.
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Good for him for growing a conscience. You get the sense from that article that he really felt pressured to smear Kerry, and one wonders whether this same snowball effect led to the participation of other "Swiftboat Veterans for Truth". It's starting to look like one of the ballsiest hatchet jobs in political (or at least Presidential) history.
If the Republicans TRULY wanted to retract those statements, they should produce a same-length ad stating that they were wrong and LIED to the American public. The ads should run at the exact same time and day of the week that the previous falsehood ads did.
Thought Mr. Thurlow would be the first to retract.
Mr. Thurlow on Senator Kerry's Bronze Star.
"As for the first, more fundamental objection to the convention video, Thurlow says that Kerry's version of the events of March 13, 1969, is simply wrong. "His story is a total fabrication," Thurlow says. One of the Swift Boats did hit a mine that day, Thurlow says, but much of the rest of Kerry's story is inaccurate. "This thing about being under intense enemy fire is a falsehood...There was no fire off either bank [of the river]. This thing about getting Jim out of the river under a hail of bullets with these serious injuries is totally fabricated."
"We fired our weapons onto the bank to suppress any chance that there might be snipers that might try to pick off guys in the chaos," Thurlow says. "But I don't remember any fire from the banks." Thurlow also says he saw Kerry briefly toward the end of the day, and "he wasn't bleeding, and he wasn't hurt." "
When Mr. Thurlow won his Bronze Star.
"Kerry and the other wounded men received medical attention aboard a Coast Guard cutter, which was the closest ship capable of treating them. Along with a third Purple Heart for the injury to his right arm, Kerry was also awarded a Bronze Star for his bravery, as was Larry Thurlow."
Mr. Thurlow on Senator Kerry's Bronze Star.
"As for the first, more fundamental objection to the convention video, Thurlow says that Kerry's version of the events of March 13, 1969, is simply wrong. "His story is a total fabrication," Thurlow says. One of the Swift Boats did hit a mine that day, Thurlow says, but much of the rest of Kerry's story is inaccurate. "This thing about being under intense enemy fire is a falsehood...There was no fire off either bank [of the river]. This thing about getting Jim out of the river under a hail of bullets with these serious injuries is totally fabricated."
"We fired our weapons onto the bank to suppress any chance that there might be snipers that might try to pick off guys in the chaos," Thurlow says. "But I don't remember any fire from the banks." Thurlow also says he saw Kerry briefly toward the end of the day, and "he wasn't bleeding, and he wasn't hurt." "
When Mr. Thurlow won his Bronze Star.
"Kerry and the other wounded men received medical attention aboard a Coast Guard cutter, which was the closest ship capable of treating them. Along with a third Purple Heart for the injury to his right arm, Kerry was also awarded a Bronze Star for his bravery, as was Larry Thurlow."
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Yep DV. I don't think we have heard the last of this by a longshot. I am very interested in hearing how Lewis Letson tries to spin this whole "I know John Kerry is lying about his Purple Heart because..." crap.
The JAG would know better than I, are Medical Officers in the service under any sort of doctor/patient confidentiality or is any person they treated during war time fair game years later?
Shame that these bitter men could not direct their anger towards something more constructive than trying to tarnish the service record of a war hero.
The JAG would know better than I, are Medical Officers in the service under any sort of doctor/patient confidentiality or is any person they treated during war time fair game years later?
Shame that these bitter men could not direct their anger towards something more constructive than trying to tarnish the service record of a war hero.
Personally..I have seen no evidence that Kerry's staff is competant enough politically to organize a dirty tricks campaign. Frankly...his campaign is about as boring as I can think of making one.
The people supporting the president with ads such as these may be liars and dishonorable...but at least they are fighting even if it is dirty. Kerry is coasting way too much in this campaign.
The people supporting the president with ads such as these may be liars and dishonorable...but at least they are fighting even if it is dirty. Kerry is coasting way too much in this campaign.
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Another Swift lie
Another report concerning lies, this time about John O'Neill. It's salon.com so take it as you will, but you'll need to watch a short ad to see the full article if you don't have an account.
Another report concerning lies, this time about John O'Neill. It's salon.com so take it as you will, but you'll need to watch a short ad to see the full article if you don't have an account.
The problem is that Bush must make this campaign about Kerry being a crappy alternative to Bush's terrible stewardship. The GOPies cannot win this fight by playing fair. Granted, I'm not sure Moore's film is fair either. But at least Moore just "shades" the facts associated with certain events . . . Bushies create new "facts" all together.
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