Kevin Costner's Oil Clean Up Machine Appears To Work As Advertised.

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Kevin Costner made headlines when he stepped forward to promote his system to separate and clean spilled oil from the Gulf waters, but whether you were among those laughing up their cyber-sleeves or just silently hoping it would work, the good news is, it looks like he's come up with a winner! :thumbsup:

Costner cleanup device gets high marks from BP

It was treated as an oddball twist in the otherwise wrenching saga of the BP oil spill when Kevin Costner stepped forward to promote a device he said could work wonders in containing the spill's damage. But as Henry Fountain explains in the New York Times, the gadget in question — an oil-separating centrifuge — marks a major breakthrough in spill cleanup technology. And BP, after trial runs with the device, is ordering 32 more of the Costner-endorsed centrifuges to aid the Gulf cleanup.

The "Waterworld" actor has invested some $20 million and spent the past 15 years in developing the centrifuges. He helped found a manufacturing company, Ocean Therapy Solutions, to advance his brother's research in spill cleanup technology. In testimony before Congress this month, Costner walked through the device's operation—explaining how it spins oil-contaminated water at a rapid speed, so as to separate out the oil and capture it in a containment tank:

The device can purportedly take in thousands of gallons of oil-tainted water and remove up to 99% of the oil from it. On Thursday, BP posted to its YouTube page a video of the news conference featuring Costner and BP Chief Operating Officer Doug Suttles announcing the news.

"Doug Suttles was the first guy to step up in the oil industry," Costner said at the presser, "and I'm really happy to say when he ordered 32 machines, it's a signal to the world, to the industry, where we need to be."

Suttles said the additional machines will be used to build four new deep-water systems: on two barges and two 280-foot supply boats.

"We tested it in some of the toughest environments we could find, and actually what it's done — it's quite robust," Suttles said. "This is real technology with real science behind it, and it's passed all of those tests." He added that Costner's device has proved effective at processing 128,000 barrels of water a day, which "can make a real difference to our spill response efforts."

In his congressional testimony, Costner recounted his struggle to effectively market the centrifuge. He explained that although the machines are quite effective, they can still leave trace amounts of oil in the treated water that exceeds current environmental regulations. Because of that regulatory hurdle, he said, he had great difficulty getting oil industry giants interested without first having the approval of the federal government.

It's true, as Fountain notes in the Times, that innovation on spill technology has been hobbled in part by the reach of federal regulation — though Fountain also notes that oil companies have elected to devote comparatively little money for researching cleanup devices in the intensely competitive industry.

Costner said that after the device was patented in 1993, he sought to overcome oil-company jitters by offering to allow U.S. oil concerns to use it on a trial basis. He'd extended the same offer to the Japanese government in 1997, he said, but got no takers there either.

— Brett Michael Dykes is a national affairs writer for Yahoo! News.

Waterworld lives! WTG, Kevin! :thumbsup:
 

bfdd

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I think this came out a week or so ago. It had some trouble with the oil at first because it was thick do to an additive they put in it to make it easier to skim, but they made some tweaks and it's working flawlessly from what I've read. Kevin Costner deserves all of our respect for putting his mind, money and fame where his mouth is.
 

chucky2

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I wonder if they could get a pipewith a pump, or two or three, down by the blowout preventer and route it to the machine somehow?

Maybe a large funnel(s) anchored to the ocean floor to channel the oil to the pipe(s). If it can process that much per day, could it not handle what's coming out of the blowout preventer?

Chuck
 

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I wonder if they could get a pipewith a pump, or two or three, down by the blowout preventer and route it to the machine somehow?

Maybe a large funnel(s) anchored to the ocean floor to channel the oil to the pipe(s). If it can process that much per day, could it not handle what's coming out of the blowout preventer?

Chuck

more oil spills out in an hour than these things can clean in a day, which I believe I remember reading was like 2k barrels a day.
 

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Um, it sounds to me that they could've deployed this machine a few weeks ago to minimize damage...
 

chucky2

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more oil spills out in an hour than these things can clean in a day, which I believe I remember reading was like 2k barrels a day.

It says in the article, "...device has proved effective at processing 128,000 barrels of water a day...".

If they could get something to funnel the contaminated water to where this thing collects, couldn't one or more of these be used to process that contaminated water?

Chuck
 

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I wonder if they could get a pipewith a pump, or two or three, down by the blowout preventer and route it to the machine somehow?

Maybe a large funnel(s) anchored to the ocean floor to channel the oil to the pipe(s). If it can process that much per day, could it not handle what's coming out of the blowout preventer?

Chuck

That was the "top kill," one of the first things they tried that was blocked by hydrate crystals. The current cap is a smaller version of the same thing with vents they can open and close to reduce the formation of the hydrates.

more oil spills out in an hour than these things can clean in a day, which I believe I remember reading was like 2k barrels a day.

The article in my OP quotes BP's Tuttle saying that Costner's device can "take in thousands of gallons of oil-tainted water and remove up to 99&#37; of the oil from it" and that it "has proved effective at processing 128,000 barrels of water a day." How many barrels of oil that means would depend on the ratio of oil to water and how many barrels of oil it can handle and the capacity of the local storage and transportation resources (tankers, etc.) on site.

Um, it sounds to me that they could've deployed this machine a few weeks ago to minimize damage...

Read the article. Costner went public with it weeks ago, and he's been fighting an uphill battle just to get past Federal regulations, as well as getting heard by the oil companies.

We can't undo the screw ups that got us here. It's a major improvement that something is finally working. As bfdd said, props to Costner for putting his mind, money and fame where his mouth is.

And while we're at it, it's time to put a sock in jackass oil industry sock puppets like Bobby Jindal and Haley Barbour, who continue to whine about the loss of jobs caused by a moritorium on offshore drilling without first understanding how, or even IF, it can be done safely. Human lives, human food supply chain and the viability of the entire Gulf ecosystem trump immediate jobs that could cause far more permanent damage than anyone's lifetime income could afford.
 
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bfdd

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It says in the article, "...device has proved effective at processing 128,000 barrels of water a day...".

If they could get something to funnel the contaminated water to where this thing collects, couldn't one or more of these be used to process that contaminated water?

Chuck

that's water, not oil.

Depending on the water-to-oil ratio, the devices are capable of extracting 2,000 barrels of oil per day from the gulf.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Broadcast...up-machine-purchases/story?id=10916445&page=1
 

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Free market wins again. :cool:

Careful boss, half this forum hates the free market and the other half thinks its a joke.

As for me, its awesome when real solutions dont come from the government or the large corporations which started them. Makes me realize that individual freedoms should still be protected in America.
 

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And while we're at it, it's time to put a sock in jackass oil industry sock puppets like Bobby Jindal and Haley Barbour, who continue to whine about the loss of jobs caused by a moritorium on offshore drilling without first understanding how, or even IF, it can be done safely. Human lives, human food supply chain and the viability of the entire Gulf ecosystem trump immediate jobs that could cause far more permanent damage than anyone's lifetime income could afford.

What in the world does this have to do with your OP, or are you trying to derail your own discussion thread?

Thumbs up for Kevin Costner's device.
 
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In his congressional testimony, Costner recounted his struggle to effectively market the centrifuge. He explained that although the machines are quite effective, they can still leave trace amounts of oil in the treated water that exceeds current environmental regulations. Because of that regulatory hurdle, he said, he had great difficulty getting oil industry giants interested without first having the approval of the federal government.

Ah yes, the benefits of government regulation shine through again. If you can't remove all of the oil, then goddamit you don't get to remove any.
 

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What in the world does this have to do with your OP, or are you trying to derail your own discussion thread?

You mean you don't know what it has to do with the story? :confused:

The back story to this is the sum of actions, inactions, natural conditions and both misguided and malevolent political decisions that have brought us to the manmade catastrophies we now face. And it's part of what motivated Costner to look for solutions. Don't take my word for it. Read the story at bfdd's link. A couple of quick quotes from a much deeper article with video links:

Costner has spent the past 15 years and more than $20 million of his own money to develop the oil separator, which during successful testing, left water 99 percent clean of crude.
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Costner told "Good Morning America" anchor Sam Champion Monday that he became inspired to work on the device after watching coverage of the Exxon Valdez oil spill. That spill occurred off the coast of Alaska when the supertanker Exxon Valdez hit a reef in 1989. Approximately 11 million gallons of oil spilled into Prince William Sound, causing widespread harm to the local wildlife, environment and economy.
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Costner is confident the oil separator can make a difference, but says for the past 12 years he's been frustrated by the government's and oil companies' lack of interest in his and other technologies.

Thanks for asking. :cool:

Thumbs up for Kevin Costner's device.

We agree. :)
 

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I like the hillbillies with their straw idea best but I'm sure this makes a constituent rich and costs a lot so it's pursued.


<cynical zebo
 

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Costner cleanup device gets high marks from BP

That's hardly the best of endorsements, but still Costner deserves some credit for putting his money where his mouth is, and seemingly doing a good job while he's at it.

Good job :thumbsup:
 

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I think it's pretty lame that they waited this long to start using it. Sure, it leaves trace amounts of oil left in the water, but this is just another example of how much our government blows. They'd rather have millions of gallons of oil sitting in the water for months and sit around debating whether or not to use a device that leaves thousands of gallons of oil sitting in the water... which could just be cleaned more thoroughly and faster afterward.

Kevin Costner's getting old, he probably never thought he'd see the day that someone actually used these machines. It's definitely pretty damn awesome that he had it and funded it for this long just in case, though. Just goes to show you that billions of dollars being spent by the government/corporate nimrods/"researchers" gets you nothing but more toxic chemicals to dump, but a well spent $20 million (plus whatever other amount others invested, I'm guessing not a whole lot in the scheme of things, though) on a practical plan executed efficiently saves the world.

If Kevin Costner builds it, they will come.
 

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I laughed not because it doesn't work but because it's like pissing on a bonfire, it doesn't move any meaningful amount of oil, it's far too small of scale.
 

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I think it's pretty lame that they waited this long to start using it. Sure, it leaves trace amounts of oil left in the water, but this is just another example of how much our government blows. They'd rather have millions of gallons of oil sitting in the water for months and sit around debating whether or not to use a device that leaves thousands of gallons of oil sitting in the water... which could just be cleaned more thoroughly and faster afterward.

Kevin Costner's getting old, he probably never thought he'd see the day that someone actually used these machines. It's definitely pretty damn awesome that he had it and funded it for this long just in case, though. Just goes to show you that billions of dollars being spent by the government/corporate nimrods/"researchers" gets you nothing but more toxic chemicals to dump, but a well spent $20 million (plus whatever other amount others invested, I'm guessing not a whole lot in the scheme of things, though) on a practical plan executed efficiently saves the world.

If Kevin Costner builds it, they will come.
They went over why it hasn't been used before. If you have a problem with the oil companies not using it send a letter to one of your politicians because they're the ones who made the regulations this thing doesn't pass.
 

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Free market wins again. :cool:
Yeah, we need some more of that, like Chinese free-market ingenuity.
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bfdd

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I laughed not because it doesn't work but because it's like pissing on a bonfire, it doesn't move any meaningful amount of oil, it's far too small of scale.

It does work and it does move a significant amount of oil. 2k barrels of oil a day each is quite a bit. BP is picking up 32 of these.