Kerry to quickly announce victory

[Stunt]

Kerry's election plans.

WASHINGTON (AP) - Senator John Kerry has a simple strategy if the presidential race is in doubt on Nov. 3, the day after the election: Do not repeat Al Gore's mistakes.

Unlike the former vice-president, who lost a recount fight and the 2000 election, Kerry will be quick to declare victory on election night and begin defending it. He also will be prepared to name a national security team before knowing whether he's secured the presidency.

"The first thing we will do is make sure everybody has an opportunity to vote and every vote is counted," said Kerry spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter. "We will be ready to hit the ground running and begin a fresh start in this country, given that so many critical issues are before us."

The prospects for another contested election grow with every poll showing the race neck and neck.

Gore prematurely conceded the 2000 race to George W. Bush, then had to retract his concession after aides said Florida wasn't lost. He never declared victory, an omission Kerry's advisers - many of whom worked for Gore - now believe created a sense of inevitability in voters' minds about Bush's presidency.

Gore didn't plan for the legal showdown, although few could have predicted it before election day. And he watched as Bush seized political advantage during the 36-day recount by publicly discussing a transition to the White House.


Not this time, promise Kerry's advisers. If there is doubt about the results, they will fight without delay.

Six so-called "SWAT teams" of lawyers and political operatives will be situated around the country with fuelled-up jets awaiting Kerry's orders to speed to a battleground state. The teams have been told to be ready to fly on the evening of the election to begin mounting legal and political fights. No team will be more than an hour from a battleground.

The Kerry campaign has office space in every battleground state, with plans so detailed they include the number of staplers and coffee machines needed to mount legal challenges.

"Right now, we have 10,000 lawyers out in the battleground states on election day, and that number is growing by the day," said Michael Whouley, a Kerry confidant who is running election operations at the Democratic National Committee.

While the lawyers litigate, political operatives will try to shape public perception. Their goal would be to persuade voters that Kerry has the best claim to the presidency and that Republicans are trying to steal it.

Democrats are already laying the public-relations groundwork by pointing to every possible voting irregularity before the Nov. 2 election and accusing Republicans of wrongdoing.

On election day, Whouley will head the so-called "boiler room," probably in Washington, that tracks vote counts and ensures Kerry doesn't concede too soon. Whouley was the aide who, after noticing Florida was too close to call in 2000, called Gore's team in Tennessee and told them to put the brakes on the concession speech.

Campaign manager Mary Beth Cahill will be with Kerry in Boston, where they will field Whouley's calls.

Jim Johnson, who headed Kerry's vice-presidential search team, former labour secretary Alexis Herman and longtime Kerry aide David McKean lead the team planning Kerry's transition to the White House.

Aides say the transition process is behind schedule, but Kerry will be ready to name a national security team shortly after the election. They say he has candidates in mind but is reluctant to discuss the transition while campaigning.

The advisers spoke on condition of anonymity because Kerry wants the focus to be on his campaign for now.

The plan to quickly name a national security team is partly practical (at a time of war, continuity is necessary) and political, aides said, because if there is another recount Kerry will want to show he's ready to take power.

Amid the tumult of the 2000 recount, Bush sought to make his presidency appear as a matter of time by leaking word of his national security team and bringing news cameras into his transition meetings. Gore and his staff were more reluctant to talk about the appointment process.

Kerry's advisers say Bush would have a natural political advantage in a recount in this election because he is the president, with a national security team in place and a public-relations spotlight that comes with the White House.

 

[conjur]

Good!

Sure as hell don't need a repeat of last election's fiasco. Although, it's started already.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: conjur
Good!

Sure as hell don't need a repeat of last election's fiasco. Although, it's started already.

Yeah, the whining has started alright. "pre-emptive" whining.

kerry is a joke. If he really thinks he can litigate this into a win - he's got another thing coming.

CsG

 

[Gravity]

It's not good for our country when laywers decide elections.

Funny that he prepares for losing with lawyers.

Also ironic that the the two attnys in the presidential race rely on their kind to secure a win.

Perhaps they will.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Gravity
It's not good for our country when laywers decide elections.

Funny that he prepares for losing with lawyers.

Also ironic that the the two attnys in the presidential race rely on their kind to secure a win.

Perhaps they will.

And you don't think Bush's campaign has a similar strategy? :roll:

 

[GoPackGo]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Gravity
It's not good for our country when laywers decide elections.

Funny that he prepares for losing with lawyers.

Also ironic that the the two attnys in the presidential race rely on their kind to secure a win.

Perhaps they will.

And you don't think Bush's campaign has a similar strategy? :roll:

If this is what Kerry needs to try to win...then its time for a revolution

 

[Stunt]

It's nice to see the Democrats grow some balls this election.

They are really going at it this time around. For good reason too. The republican machine is huge and the dems have fundraised well and done a pretty good job at getting their message out.

Nobody can deny that Gore totally caved...he had the popular vote and there should have been a revote in florida with new felony lists and better ballots.

 

[arsbanned]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur
Good!

Sure as hell don't need a repeat of last election's fiasco. Although, it's started already.

Yeah, the whining has started alright. "pre-emptive" whining.

kerry is a joke. If he really thinks he can litigate this into a win - he's got another thing coming.

CsG

Why, the Republicans did it.

It's not good for our country when laywers decide elections.

Tell that to the Republicans.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Gravity
It's not good for our country when laywers decide elections.

Funny that he prepares for losing with lawyers.

Also ironic that the the two attnys in the presidential race rely on their kind to secure a win.

Perhaps they will.

And you don't think Bush's campaign has a similar strategy? :roll:

If this is what Kerry needs to try to win...then its time for a revolution

This is not what Kerry needs to win but it's a sure sign that our entire election process is a fvcking joke.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur
Good!

Sure as hell don't need a repeat of last election's fiasco. Although, it's started already.

Yeah, the whining has started alright. "pre-emptive" whining.

kerry is a joke. If he really thinks he can litigate this into a win - he's got another thing coming.

CsG

Pst, he won't HAVE to.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Wow, just wow...

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Gravity
It's not good for our country when laywers decide elections. ...

We've noticed.

 

[Stunt]

If Kerry is this organized for an election, just imagine what he could do in iraq.

Looks like election night is going to be some sort of elaborate military mission...kinda exciting...

 

[bamacre]

This election is going to be closer than that of 2000, Americans should be worried. I have a very big feeling that this year will be much worse.

I predict that we will see three to five states in the spotlight this year, including Florida. This is NOT going to be pretty. It doesn't matter who wins, we are going to see riots, protests, and I hope that's all. It could get worse than that.

Call me paranoid, but you have to admit, this aint going to be pretty.

I almost have some respect for Gore now that I see where this election is going. Sure, going down easy seems cowardice, but it may have prevented a bigger problem.

 

[daveymark]

We won't have to worry about the legal teams and lawsuits, becasue when Bush wins, it won't even be close.

 

[irwincur]

The republican machine is huge and the dems have fundraised well and done a pretty good job at getting their message out.

BS, it pales in comparison to the Legal PAC, AARP, and the Unions... not to mention every poor sap who believes the lies the DNC has been recycling now for the last 40 years. If the DNC actually ever solved a problem, they would lose a scare tactic - hence, they never solve any of their 'hot' issues that they bring up election after election.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: Stunt
If Kerry is this organized for an election, just imagine what he could do in iraq.

Yep, teams of lawyers versus suicide bombers. Ought to be an interesting fight.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: Stunt
If Kerry is this organized for an election, just imagine what he could do in iraq.

Yep, teams of lawyers versus suicide bombers. Ought to be an interesting fight.

We'd have to change the "what is better than one lawyer at the bottom of the ocean" joke to "what is better than one lawyer in Iraq"

CsG

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: daveymark
We won't have to worry about the legal teams and lawsuits, becasue when Bush wins, it won't even be close.

Unrealistically optimistic...If there is any sort of favoratism at the moment it's to the Kerry.

The polling is flawed...this will be shown election day. Take a look at electoral vote...they use these republican biased polls and they call for kerry to win every swing state except ohio.

 

[Infohawk]

The mistake Gore made was that he assumed the other side was acting in the best interest of the US and that they had any decency. So Gore thought by giving a moderate Republican the win he was serving his country. Tragic. Now everyone knows Bush is a failure, unethical, and a threat to the nation, so this is great news.

 

[Train]

with the election as close as it is, they wont announce a winner on election night, they wont be able to.

Kerry's plan to announce victory early is simple, get the public to think he won, then any news to the contrary will be seen as some vast right wing conspiracy, how easily it folds out, he's guarenteeing a battle, it doesnt matter if he wins or not, with this plan he gets a big ugly legal battle either way.

 

[irwincur]

Call me not worreid, because I doubt it will be that close.

Polls are crap, they are almost all run by entirely liberal organizations that are making them close (LA Times anyone) to try to scare the Dem. base into voting heavily. You need to look at the internals to understand why the DNC is scared right now The fact of the matter is...

Bush is doing 25% better with woment in 2004.

Bush is doing 50% better with blacks in 2004.

Bush is getting around 90% of the RNC vote in 2004.

Bush is getting around 25% of the DNC vote in 2004.

Traditional DNC strongholds (while still going Kerry) are much closer. Hell, CA, NJ, and a large chunk of New England are within the extreme ends of the margin of error. Technically, the are statistically tied or close. This is not good news. When CA is a 6 point race, the DNC has to be worried.


Now if he is doing better on all four of these fronts than in 2000, where are Kerry's extra votes coming from. No where, women and blacks are two core constituencies for the DNC and they are leaning more towards Bush this year than they did in 2000. Hell to go from 8% of the black vote in 2000 to 19% this year is a giant leap that could easily change the race. Picking up 25% more women (security moms) means literally millions of votes spread across the country.

Trust me, this will not be close at all. Quit buying into the horserace hype. The only way Kerry can win is if every Democrat votes twice, and in my opinion, that is the only inconsistancy we need to be watching for. Democrats have shown in the past a great willingness to cheat to win. The ends justify the means in their playbook.

 

[chess9]

The #2 reason for registering so many new voters is to make certain that Florida has enough GOOD votes to make the election uncontestable.

We'll see how well that strategy works.

-Robert

 

[piasabird]

Good luck getting a state supreme court or the federal supreme court to hurry much about anything. I dont care how fast the lawyers are.

This is just a way for Kerry to say "I am a big rich snob with a big rich snob wife!"

Even the supreme court can fail to accept cases if they are not valid. The main problem is lower courts keep making decisions that are just not valid.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: irwincur
Call me not worreid, because I doubt it will be that close.

Polls are crap, they are almost all run by entirely liberal organizations that are making them close (LA Times anyone) to try to scare the Dem. base into voting heavily. You need to look at the internals to understand why the DNC is scared right now The fact of the matter is...

Bush is doing 25% better with woment in 2004.

Bush is doing 50% better with blacks in 2004.

Bush is getting around 90% of the RNC vote in 2004.

Bush is getting around 25% of the DNC vote in 2004.

Traditional DNC strongholds (while still going Kerry) are much closer. Hell, CA, NJ, and a large chunk of New England are within the extreme ends of the margin of error. Technically, the are statistically tied or close. This is not good news. When CA is a 6 point race, the DNC has to be worried.


Now if he is doing better on all four of these fronts than in 2000, where are Kerry's extra votes coming from. No where, women and blacks are two core constituencies for the DNC and they are leaning more towards Bush this year than they did in 2000. Hell to go from 8% of the black vote in 2000 to 19% this year is a giant leap that could easily change the race. Picking up 25% more women (security moms) means literally millions of votes spread across the country.

Trust me, this will not be close at all. Quit buying into the horserace hype. The only way Kerry can win is if every Democrat votes twice, and in my opinion, that is the only inconsistancy we need to be watching for. Democrats have shown in the past a great willingness to cheat to win. The ends justify the means in their playbook.

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!

Thanks! I needed that!! :laugh:


Democrats register more new voters, analysis finds
http://www.columbiatribune.com...ct/20041019News010.asp

In New Hampshire, a state that George W. Bush won by 7,211 votes in 2000, the Democrats have signed up 6,814 more new voters than the Republicans have. The Democratic rolls rose by 3.7 percent, compared with a scant 0.2 percent for the GOP.

In Iowa, Democrats have registered 42,074 more of their supporters than the GOP - this in a state Bush lost by just more than 4,000 votes.

In New Mexico, the Republicans increased their share of voters by 9 percent, and Democrats increased their share by 7.7 percent. But the Democrats still added nearly 10,000 more voters. The voter rolls grew overall at 7.6 percent in Arizona, with Democrats seeing a 7.5 percent increase and Republicans 6.1 percent.