Kerry to introduce bill first day Congress in session next year

DanJ

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Good to see he's not rolling over and dying (though his little saved nest egg was less then amusing):


http://www.johnkerry.com/petition/everychild.php

A Health Care Plan for Every Child:
Every parent knows the fear of waking up to the cries of a sick baby or a child with an ear infection that will not go away. As parents, we both remember the countless times we called that first pediatrician to get answers to every last question.

But far too many parents have another fear, on top of their child?s health. They worry that a sick child means financial ruin. There are more than eight million uninsured children in our nation. These children are less likely to get a routine checkup, or to get treatment for common ailments like asthma. They miss more days of school. It is a disgrace that eight million children lack health insurance in the richest nation on earth.

Our plan starts by providing health insurance for every child in America. Under the Kerry plan, the federal government will pay the full costs for the 20 million children in the Medicaid program. In return, we will ask states to expand coverage to children in families with higher incomes than are currently eligible, as well as low-income adults. This plan will expand coverage to millions of people and provide much needed relief for states that are struggling under persistent growing budgetary pressures.

The plan will also simplify the health care system so we can prevent children from falling through the cracks. Right now, there are millions of kids who are eligible for federal/state health insurance programs but are not signed up.

There are lots of reasons?sometimes the enrollment forms require the skills of an accountant to figure out. Some states make parents sign up every six months in person, making it virtually impossible for a parent who cannot get time of for afford to lose a whole day of work. Some parents do not even know these programs are available.

Under our plan, kids will be signed up automatically at hospitals, community health centers, and schools. And $5 billion in enrollment bonuses will be available to states as an incentive to find uninsured children and keep them covered. Children do not choose their parents. They do not choose whether to have health insurance. Children deserve a good start?with both high quality education and health care. Under our plan, every child in America will have health insurance, and every parent will have a little more peace of mind.
 

jlmadyson

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:thumbsup: This is actually one area I do agree with Kerry. A solid health care plan for kids is a superb idea, but coming up with the funds during this time of deficit crises will be a serious obstacle for the Senate.
 
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HELL NO. We do NOT need to have even MORE government spending. ANY free healthcare for ANYONE is a bad idea that will only open the door for EVERYONE to demand the freebies. And who pays for the freebies? The people who WORK for a living will pay for it, the rich don't need and WON'T USE it, and those who refuse to get off their lazy asses will reap all the rewards.

BAD, BAD, BAD idea. Kerry and ANYONE ELSE who would back this should be tossed out of the legislature on their ass.

Jason
 

DanJ

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Yea, those children should get off their lazy asses and go get a job. And if their parent's aren't successful, those kids should pay with their health.
 

AntiEverything

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So Kerry already has plans for the 800B debt extension. How is that the Republicans fault now? Seems like neither party is interested in paying the bills.
 

DanJ

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Originally posted by: AntiEverything
So Kerry already has plans for the 800B debt extension. How is that the Republicans fault now? Seems like neither party is interested in paying the bills.

Actually Kerry was interested in paying the bills by rolling back the upper tier of tax cuts. Bush, on the other hand, is interested in more tax cuts by repealing credits to businesses who provide health insurance to their employees.
 

Kibbo

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Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
HELL NO. We do NOT need to have even MORE government spending. ANY free healthcare for ANYONE is a bad idea that will only open the door for EVERYONE to demand the freebies. And who pays for the freebies? The people who WORK for a living will pay for it, the rich don't need and WON'T USE it, and those who refuse to get off their lazy asses will reap all the rewards.

BAD, BAD, BAD idea. Kerry and ANYONE ELSE who would back this should be tossed out of the legislature on their ass.

Jason

You long-erm unemployment rate is 0.5 %. That's the 2nd lowest in the developped world. Canada's is 0,7%, just a hair above yours.

Ever think that the freeloaders arn't as big a problem as you thought?
 

chess9

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All those poor kids just need to up and DIE. What is Kerry thinking? Those people will always be a drag on society, so better they just kick the bucket rather than the can, and early too.

Uh, anyway, like the big government handout fool I am I signed onto Kerry's plan and have told the American Pharmaceutical Association and the :American Life Underwriters and The Tobacco Farmers of America that I will be scaling back my support for their "WELFARE" payments. I'm sure they'll understand.

Sheezh...Imagine if this country were run by someone who really cared about the average JOE?

-Robert
 

GroundedSailor

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Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
HELL NO. We do NOT need to have even MORE government spending. ANY free healthcare for ANYONE is a bad idea that will only open the door for EVERYONE to demand the freebies. And who pays for the freebies? The people who WORK for a living will pay for it, the rich don't need and WON'T USE it, and those who refuse to get off their lazy asses will reap all the rewards.

BAD, BAD, BAD idea. Kerry and ANYONE ELSE who would back this should be tossed out of the legislature on their ass.

Jason

Lets take back all the money spend in the red states and give back all the money taken from the blue states (like mine: NJ) . End all government spending.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...6007&enterthread=y

Link to charts

http://www.mises.org/fullstory.aspx?Id=1677

Children should not be penalized in any society.



 

conjur

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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: chess9
All those poor kids just need to up and DIE.
Why don't we force poor people to abort?
Anyone making poverty-level wages or below should report to the nearest sterilization center.
 

AnitaPeterson

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Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
HELL NO. We do NOT need to have even MORE government spending. ANY free healthcare for ANYONE is a bad idea that will only open the door for EVERYONE to demand the freebies. And who pays for the freebies? The people who WORK for a living will pay for it, the rich don't need and WON'T USE it, and those who refuse to get off their lazy asses will reap all the rewards.

BAD, BAD, BAD idea. Kerry and ANYONE ELSE who would back this should be tossed out of the legislature on their ass.

Jason



Wow! what a miserable character! - and I'm not referring to his physical appearance. The pompous ignorance, the total lack of care for children, which are the only thing worth saving in such a world...

This is probably the most disgusting thing I've read, even in a place like P&N, which is not a place of patience and sainthood, in any case.

You... I have no words to describe what I feel. I hereby award you with "The Ugly American of the Year".
 

Falloutboy

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ok fine if they want goverment health care for kids...just take the credit for having kids out of the tax code that should cover it
 

tec699

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Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
HELL NO. We do NOT need to have even MORE government spending. ANY free healthcare for ANYONE is a bad idea that will only open the door for EVERYONE to demand the freebies. And who pays for the freebies? The people who WORK for a living will pay for it, the rich don't need and WON'T USE it, and those who refuse to get off their lazy asses will reap all the rewards.

BAD, BAD, BAD idea. Kerry and ANYONE ELSE who would back this should be tossed out of the legislature on their ass.

Jason

You are such a miserable person.

Health care is vital and most people don't have it. You're tax dollars are paying for health care anyway idiot. Who do you think pays for health care when a poor child has to go to the hospital? We do!
 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: tec699
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
HELL NO. We do NOT need to have even MORE government spending. ANY free healthcare for ANYONE is a bad idea that will only open the door for EVERYONE to demand the freebies. And who pays for the freebies? The people who WORK for a living will pay for it, the rich don't need and WON'T USE it, and those who refuse to get off their lazy asses will reap all the rewards.

BAD, BAD, BAD idea. Kerry and ANYONE ELSE who would back this should be tossed out of the legislature on their ass.

Jason

You are such a miserable person.

Health care is vital and most people don't have it. You're tax dollars are paying for health care anyway idiot. Who do you think pays for health care when a poor child has to go to the hospital? We do!
Yep, when a person goes to ER without health insurance, the hospital still treats them (obviously.) The rest of us end up flipping the bill via higher health care and insurance charges.

Another angle which is easily arguable, is that if everyone had health insurance, then they'd go to the Dr BEFORE it became an emergency. Thus, actually costing significantly less.
 

gutharius

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Originally posted by: AntiEverything
So Kerry already has plans for the 800B debt extension. How is that the Republicans fault now? Seems like neither party is interested in paying the bills.

Remember the debates? Do you ermember kerry saying he was a proponent of the Pay As You Go System? Kerry is a fiscally responsible senator. He will find a way to do it without breaking the bank. Which at a bare minimum is way more than I can say of his fellow senators on the other side of the aisle.
 

Sassy

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All Americans should have access to quality health care. It isn't an issue of money. It's an issue of will, commitment, compassion, and fairness.
 

XZeroII

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Originally posted by: kissnup
All Americans should have access to quality health care. It isn't an issue of money. It's an issue of will, commitment, compassion, and fairness.

What do you think communism is based on?
It isn't an issue of money. It's an issue of will, commitment, compassion, and fairness.

and we all know how that works. Everyone get the exact same crap treatment except for the rich, who can pay for better treatment.