Kerry to choose VP candidate

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chowderhead

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Picking a VP candidate early creates the potential for stagnation after the convention. But then again it seems kerry needs a boost at the moment because there isn't much energy surrounding him. It seems as though kerry has decided he needs the boost choosing a VP candidate can bring now instead of later. Desperation? Not necessarily, but it may be a signal that the heat of the spotlight is wearing on him and he needs a big diversion.

I don't think Kerry should/needs to pick his VP yet. Right now is the time for him to travel to key states, drum up his support and fundraise. 70% of the people have already mostly made up their minds barring some major change in the political climate. The 30% fluid voters tend to decide later. Undecided voters in general will break more for the challenger or not vote. Also, why make news when GWB and the issues in Iraq are dominating the headlines.

Second, there is the 50 million that GWB dumped into ads. Most polls should that while Kerry's negatives went up, either Kerry is still tied or very slightly behind GWB. The newest Marist poll actually showed that Kerry was tied or ahead in battleground states. This is after 50 million dollars of mostly critical ads.

Third, why have only one VP candidate "attacking" the GWB administration when you can have 10 different, potential ones appearing locally or on the news shows talking up Kerry and attacking GWB.

Fourth, If Kerry announces his VP at the end of the convention, he will get a bounce, especially if the pick is somewhat surprising. Then the summer olympics takes place in Mid-August where barring any terroristics attacks, everything will remain static. There will be stagnation after the Dem's convention because of the olympics. The VP choice then will be the truely dramatic moment barring something unforseen. Then the Republicans will have their convention. A bounce for them. Then, it will be a sprint to the finish.

Kerry is a conventional candidate and thus, he may feel that if the race is close, he won't want to or need to make a bold or unexpected choice. My feeling right now is that he would pick someone he knows well and that would be another senator and not the governor of Iowa. Notice how each battleground region is getting a VP candidate mention.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: bjc112
guess what day today is dumbass.

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Right Cad, answer their question.
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"So anyway - I'm not going to spend any more time on you - you obviously haven't the slightest clue in regards to the "strategery" of the election campaign and the VP pick."

Know, Sudder Anne, that Caddy dismisses you as not worthy of consideration because he feels worthless himself. He just sees himself in others. He truly is a mindless Republican drone, as you mentioned, but don't let it make you angry. He has an emotional need for center stage bombast and what I call 'cadidicy', the unfailing talent to get everything not only wrong, but also consistently 180 degrees wrong, because he himself carries the feeling that he was dismissed. He is what is sometimes refereed to as a blow hard attached to a rubber bulb. The harder you tweak the bulb the louder he blows. Any arguing with him makes him resound to high heavens. I have tried to tell him he's defensive but he just says he isn't. He's like the schmo, a vinyl punching bag toy filled balloon with sand on the bottom such that when you punch it, it goes down and pops back up........forever. He has suggested I enter therapy, so that is a hopeful sign that such thoughts are on his mind. Anyway, just a heads up least your arm get tired of punching. The bouncing of bubbleheads occurs when you move.
 

MonstaThrilla

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
Kerry's already leading bush in the polls. Go check rasmussen, he's got a 2% lead over bush. Whoever said Kerry's is in trouble or is stagnating is dumb and doesn't know what their talking about.

And Gallup has Bush up by 5 points. You obviously don't have a clue about stagnation and how it affects the run up to the election otherwise you wouldn't have posted what you did. The issue of stagnation is a problem for all long campaigns. The same tired speeches, long hours on a bus/plane, etc - it all takes it's toll and the people see that. The VP selection is about the only "advantage" a challenger has in the Presidential election. It's extra free press and it can take the spotlight off the Presidential nominee for a few days or up to a week or two. It ads a fresh dynamic to the campaign and is something visibly new for the voting populous.

So anyway - I'm not going to spend any more time on you - you obviously haven't the slightest clue in regards to the "strategery" of the election campaign and the VP pick.

CkG

Actually, if you Cad had any idea about "strategery", you'd know that Kerry is trying to pull off a Rope-A-Dope. Its no secret. The man knows how to close. The f*cker wins when it counts, plain and simple He did it in Iowa because he knew it would win him the nomination, he did it a couple times to win his Senate seat, and other times before that.

All this talk about his stagnation neglects that its an intended effect of his campaign strategery.

John Kerry is a douchebag, but I'm voting for him anyway.
 

Bowmaster

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Please, Please, Please - Don't let it be Gephardt!!! That will surely give Bush the votes he needs to win...
 

DanJ

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Originally posted by: Bowmaster
Please, Please, Please - Don't let it be Gephardt!!! That will surely give Bush the votes he needs to win...

Gephardt should be able to help carry Missouri. And if all the other states fall as they did in 2000 that would be enough for Kerry. Though I think Ohio might swing this year as well. And who the hell knows about Florida.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
Kerry's already leading bush in the polls. Go check rasmussen, he's got a 2% lead over bush. Whoever said Kerry's is in trouble or is stagnating is dumb and doesn't know what their talking about.

And Gallup has Bush up by 5 points. You obviously don't have a clue about stagnation and how it affects the run up to the election otherwise you wouldn't have posted what you did. The issue of stagnation is a problem for all long campaigns. The same tired speeches, long hours on a bus/plane, etc - it all takes it's toll and the people see that. The VP selection is about the only "advantage" a challenger has in the Presidential election. It's extra free press and it can take the spotlight off the Presidential nominee for a few days or up to a week or two. It ads a fresh dynamic to the campaign and is something visibly new for the voting populous.

So anyway - I'm not going to spend any more time on you - you obviously haven't the slightest clue in regards to the "strategery" of the election campaign and the VP pick.

CkG

Actually, if you Cad had any idea about "strategery", you'd know that Kerry is trying to pull off a Rope-A-Dope. Its no secret. The man knows how to close. The f*cker wins when it counts, plain and simple He did it in Iowa because he knew it would win him the nomination, he did it a couple times to win his Senate seat, and other times before that.

All this talk about his stagnation neglects that its an intended effect of his campaign strategery.

John Kerry is a douchebag, but I'm voting for him anyway.

Not really. kerry hasn't set himself up to rope-a-dope like he did in the primaries IMO. The "stategery" of the VP pick will have to be played out in full and stuck to once decided on. kerry can't afford to switch tactics once he says he will do something. If he said he will pick his VP candidate by the end of May then he is stuck with that and he has to run with it - hard. As of right now, I think he made a good choice to pick it now as he will get a push before the convention. But he needs to make sure he can carry that "momentum" through the early fall without exhausting the campaign.

Should be an interesting race to watch none the less.:)

I still think he's going to pick pilliage-N-sack.

CkG

Edit - Gephardt is a sure loser for kerry IMO.