Kenwood 72x troubles...

fitzhue

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To those of you that do have this drive, do you have DMA enabled? I am having troubles with this drive only if DMA is enabled. When i am ripping audio, it will either come to a blue screen, or it will just crash my computer badly. It will make my screen go blank and only a reset will get me out of it. I have it set as master, by itsself, on ide2. If anyone can give me some information or tips to solve my problem, it would be greatly appreciated.
 

fitzhue

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Which firmware to use? There's the 226 update, which looks like it will help me, but it says I should use 221 as i have a amd athlon motherboard. What firmware version are you using? Amd or intel?
 

Vinny N

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(It isn't even clear what it means by AMD Athlon motherboards, AMD750, AMD751, AMD760 chipsets? or any chipset that supports an Athlon?)

I'm not sure why there's a different one(because both supposedly address an issue with AMD Athlon motherboards).
The page it points to is an older update utility and older firmware, but you should be able to use the old update utility and newer firmware.

It's possible the new firmware upgrade utility had a problem running on certain systems, but I've run it before on an AMD750 based motherboard(and I'm inclined to think that's what they actually mean by AMD Athlon based motherboards) without any problems.

The 72X drive is currently on a 440BX based motherboard, and the utility froze during update until I turned off DMA and then did the update.

What's stranger if you read the one that it links to for AMD Athlon based mothernoards and Intel 820 chipset motherboards, it sounds more like you can ONLY use that for the motherboards it was intended for, but the normal upgrade utility will work on all boards including the ones the the older utility is for.

My advice, if your firmware is older than both of them, try the 221 first.
If you are running the 221 already, then by all means try the 226.

Personally, if I wasn't running the 226 I wouldn't care what the Kenwood page says, they're not very clear about what or why there are two different update utilities, I would go ahead and upgrade to the 226 by whatever means I can(be it the standard update utility, or downloading the older one and just loading the newer 226 firmware instead of the 221 firmware.
 

Vinny N

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That's awfully strange. Mine held DMA in both a Gigabyte GA-7IX(AMD750 chipset) as well as a BM6(440BX).
OS was Windows 98SE.

Of course I always kept the firmware up to date...
 

fitzhue

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Thanks for all your replies. This is a really annoying problem. Did all of you update to the 226 firmware? Are you still having these problems? Thanks a lot
 

Yoshi

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Take your 72X out of your computer and toss it in the trash.

No kidding, crappiest CDROM I have ever had. Trouble keeping DMA enabled, could barely read CDR media, could not read CDRW media (even with the latest firmware), drive quit reading all together after 13 months of service. Put in a disk, the light would go on but it could not detect the disk. Same trouble with all media.

I took a 10lb sledgehammer to mine, what a waste of money!
 

Remedy

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Yea my drive is still brand new and only a couple days old, but i don't know about taking the sledgehammer to it:D, I can't even get the firmware to actually work i dunno why it won't accept it. whats another CD-rom that is just as fast or comparable to the 72x, i seen alot ppl rocking teac 40x and Toshiba 40x roms i think i might just have to take the lost here and let it go for one of those.
 

Cirruslvr

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I got the 72x (after my 52x died and I exchanged it) and updated it with the 221 firmware. Have DMA checked and have had no DMA problems with the drive. I have a KT133 motherboard and the firmware upgrade was done with, I think, Via's 4.24 installed at the time.
 

sharkeeper

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I have one in another machine. I punched the one I had in my machine last summer. Damn thing wouldn't give my Dire Straits Brothers In Arms CD back after multiple eject requests.

Finally, in anguish, I punch the drive square on the front. Of course, Mr. Murphy was in my office at the time! :| Just as my knuckles were about to make contact with the drawer, it decides to open! The result is a broken gear and rack plus a couple of other small pieces.

I took the drive apart and was sill able to get it to read CD's.

Later that afternoon we had the deluge of the century (some 10" of rain in less than an HOUR) that kept me VERY busy saving a lot of my valuables from rising water. Thank goodness for my dependable Gorman Rupp 165 gpm pump!

Cheers!
 

SXMP

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i dunno, my 72x kenwood is running just great... o wait.. i dont have my kenwood... wherever could it be.. :) *coughs* and points in fitzhues general direction =)
 

fitzhue

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mosdef, what i would do is to put all the files on a regular disk. Then boot with your startup disk. When at the A prompt put in the disk with the files you need and run whatever program it is.

sxmp, well now i know what cdrom NOT to get, LOL :) But if it works for what you want it to do then by all means use it.