- Sep 30, 2003
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Saw an awful lot about Ted Kennedy's endorsement speech for Obama. Particularly on Chris mathew's Hardball show last night.
Mathews actually said twice that Kennedy was passing the Dem "Torch" and was bypassing the Clintons. (reminded me of Moonbeam's remark yesterday)
Mathews played 16 clips/excerps of Kennedy's speech and presented them as 16 different, specific rebukes to the Clintons. Including such "issues" as rejection of the politics of distortion (in general), rejection of divisions along racial, gender or ethnic lines, and no tolerating any claims that Obama did not have a consistant record of being against the Iraq "war".
We also saw that Kennedy was taking up a very substantial calender to travel around the US and campaign personally on behalf of Obama. If HRC is gonna have Bill, Obama is gonna have Ted Kennedy.
Kennedy, according to Mathews, has a ton of cred with the Latinos (his support of cesar Chavez etc) and is gonna be using it to get votes for Obama before Super Tuesday.
Mathews says Kennedy never even called HRC to tell her of his Obama endorsement, he just called Bill. And that Bill apparently went to some effort to get Kennedy to back off the endorsement, or at least wait until later. No go.
This group of Dems sees Bill, not Hillary, as in charge. They also say Bill is now gonna be covered in the media as if he were the candidate, not a campaigner. Mathews put up several recent articles by Dems denouncing Bill's efforts, like Frank Rich's and others that I'm forgeting ATM
Mathews thinks this might result in even more endorsemnts for Obama from Dems in Congress. Apparently, even if HRC becomes President she can't retaliate. Kennedy has too much power in the Senate (committee chairmanship etc) and she'll have to play nice if she wants anything passed. This will give everybody cover who comes out now for Obama.
Mathews seemed absolutely gleeful about the whole thing. I gotta believe he's "old school" and doesn't really care for the Clintons at all.
I noticed he didn't have one Clinton supporter on the show.
Seemed like Kennedy was throwing the Clintons under the bus big-time. Actually more Kennedy punched 'em in the nuts, threw 'em under the bus, pissed on 'em and called his dogs over to bite 'em. Then got into bus, started it up and backed over the clintons a few times for good measure
Looks like a big schism and shift in the future of the Dem party.
When Ted (along with Rahm Emanual and others) called Bill earlier and told him to back off the racial stuff etc, Bill shoulda listened.
Fern
Mathews actually said twice that Kennedy was passing the Dem "Torch" and was bypassing the Clintons. (reminded me of Moonbeam's remark yesterday)
Mathews played 16 clips/excerps of Kennedy's speech and presented them as 16 different, specific rebukes to the Clintons. Including such "issues" as rejection of the politics of distortion (in general), rejection of divisions along racial, gender or ethnic lines, and no tolerating any claims that Obama did not have a consistant record of being against the Iraq "war".
We also saw that Kennedy was taking up a very substantial calender to travel around the US and campaign personally on behalf of Obama. If HRC is gonna have Bill, Obama is gonna have Ted Kennedy.
Kennedy, according to Mathews, has a ton of cred with the Latinos (his support of cesar Chavez etc) and is gonna be using it to get votes for Obama before Super Tuesday.
Mathews says Kennedy never even called HRC to tell her of his Obama endorsement, he just called Bill. And that Bill apparently went to some effort to get Kennedy to back off the endorsement, or at least wait until later. No go.
This group of Dems sees Bill, not Hillary, as in charge. They also say Bill is now gonna be covered in the media as if he were the candidate, not a campaigner. Mathews put up several recent articles by Dems denouncing Bill's efforts, like Frank Rich's and others that I'm forgeting ATM
Mathews thinks this might result in even more endorsemnts for Obama from Dems in Congress. Apparently, even if HRC becomes President she can't retaliate. Kennedy has too much power in the Senate (committee chairmanship etc) and she'll have to play nice if she wants anything passed. This will give everybody cover who comes out now for Obama.
Mathews seemed absolutely gleeful about the whole thing. I gotta believe he's "old school" and doesn't really care for the Clintons at all.
I noticed he didn't have one Clinton supporter on the show.
Seemed like Kennedy was throwing the Clintons under the bus big-time. Actually more Kennedy punched 'em in the nuts, threw 'em under the bus, pissed on 'em and called his dogs over to bite 'em. Then got into bus, started it up and backed over the clintons a few times for good measure
Looks like a big schism and shift in the future of the Dem party.
When Ted (along with Rahm Emanual and others) called Bill earlier and told him to back off the racial stuff etc, Bill shoulda listened.
Fern
