Kellogg to split into three companies

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Hmm, I suspect they know that conventional cereal is on its way out of normalcy. Some will eliminate grains altogether...others leap into strictly "whole grains" or basically "Whole Foods level" of cereal
 

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Hmm, I suspect they know that conventional cereal is on its way out of normalcy. Some will eliminate grains altogether...others leap into strictly "whole grains" or basically "Whole Foods level" of cereal
They already have a huge mix of healthy brands, and kids will never prefer those over traditional sugary cereals anyways. I suspect this is mostly so the plant based business can do better on its own (or doesn't drag down the other portions of the company) and so they can focus a lot more effort on the snack business, which is probably their major growth path.
 

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They already have a huge mix of healthy brands, and kids will never prefer those over traditional sugary cereals anyways. I suspect this is mostly so the plant based business can do better on its own (or doesn't drag down the other portions of the company) and so they can focus a lot more effort on the snack business, which is probably their major growth path.
"Healthy" usually means sugary tasting foods but with a little more than just mere flour, like nuts. Their discontinued "SmartStart" cereal has 18 grams in a dinky 64g serving.
They lost a lot of their "regulars" thanks to COVID having an association of inflicting damage to the (pre-)diabetic and obese.
 

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Hmm, I suspect they know that conventional cereal is on its way out of normalcy. Some will eliminate grains altogether...others leap into strictly "whole grains" or basically "Whole Foods level" of cereal

Wait what? Cereals are not plant based?
 
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Wait what? Cereals are not plant based?
The mainstream acceptance of advice to reduced or avoid refined sugar and grains will serve to reduce demand for most cereal products.
The disputed areas are the matters of "better" grains, where some will advocate as okay and others state they too are too damaging long-term to consume.
 

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Avoiding sugar and processed grains = smart.

Avoiding whole-grains and nuts = stupid.
 

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Avoiding sugar and processed grains = smart.

Avoiding whole-grains and nuts = stupid.
Avoiding most whole grains(mainly the flour products) is also smart if one takes a multivitamin or equivalent battery of foods to cover the missing vitamins and minerals, such as copper, zinc, and manganese. Starches are still starches. Just that for "big eaters", fiber physically reduces intake.
Tofu is unequivocally better.
People being deficient in certain vitamins and minerals will fix up those deficiencies with eating a whole grain, and the fiber reduces appetite. But if someone is not deficient and eats fiber from elsewhere, I do not expect such gains.

Nuts are good stuff, just gotta be wary of aflatoxins in certain things like peanut butter. Costco has a win here, as they use Valencia peanuts in their store brand.
 

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Tofu is unequivocally better
Lots of soy is fantastic for boosting your estrogen-levels too! :p ;)

Also peanuts are beans or legumes not any kind of nut at all.


(Don't even get me started.... your NFL football/NHL hockey opinions may be good but your nutritional/dietary advice reads like it's freaking opposite-day!)
 

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Lots of soy is fantastic for boosting your estrogen-levels too! :p ;)

Also peanuts are beans or legumes not any kind of nut at all.


(Don't even get me started.... your NFL football/NHL hockey opinions may be good but your nutritional/dietary advice reads like it's freaking opposite-day!)
I can safely say I fancy legumes to an extent. Peanut butter without other oils or salt was an 6-8oz a day or every three day eating cycle. I've chilled out of eating so much peanut butter though due to reading about aflatoxins. Canned chili also is good eatin' for me.


One fatty fish, 2-3 squares of low sugar dark chocolate, some cheese/tofu/yogurt is what I want to eat daily, although the cheese or yogurt is the hardest to keep eating every day.

I'm man enough to not be afraid of a little extra estrogen. It's the only thing stopping me from having rapid heartbeat episodes(thanks, long COVID) and a dragging brain. I've settled on a tofu or soy milk dosage once a week. This morning, my heart was certainly beating fast again and a 1 pound of tofu went down the chute. Also, as an Asian, some tofu and soy sauce is just the norm. Only issue is that tofu is often fried in vegetable oil...because that's the customary oil used these days. Combined with the Asian habit of never tossing out unused crap no matter how old...that oil kills some of the benefits of tofu. I eat my tofu raw out of the package however, thus skipping that issue; yes, it tastes just fine for me that way.



If my gums weren't halfway gone, I'd eat some red bean paste. Junk food, but healthier than American sweets.

I will not consume soy protein isolate or soybean oil, however.

I can break my own rules. I bought some Ezekiel 4:9 bread with cinnamon raisin to beta test for my mom's cancer treatment. I think I overate my digestive tract though(sweets always trigger a "binge"...first time I had an achy colon in a while....so I bought Arnold Butter bread for her as well.
(My binges are barely binges to standard american eaters. The "binge" was 3-5 slices.)
I was looking at Dave's killer bread but I cannot support yet another criminal who simply channeled unethical tendencies into legitimate field yet still prone immorality.
 

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I can safely say I fancy legumes to an extent. Peanut butter without other oils or salt was an 6-8oz a day or every three day eating cycle. I've chilled out of eating so much peanut butter though due to reading about aflatoxins. Canned chili also is good eatin' for me.


One fatty fish, 2-3 squares of low sugar dark chocolate, some cheese/tofu/yogurt is what I want to eat daily, although the cheese or yogurt is the hardest to keep eating every day.

I'm man enough to not be afraid of a little extra estrogen. It's the only thing stopping me from having rapid heartbeat episodes(thanks, long COVID) and a dragging brain. I've settled on a tofu or soy milk dosage once a week. This morning, my heart was certainly beating fast again and a 1 pound of tofu went down the chute. Also, as an Asian, some tofu and soy sauce is just the norm. Only issue is that tofu is often fried in vegetable oil...because that's the customary oil used these days. Combined with the Asian habit of never tossing out unused crap no matter how old...that oil kills some of the benefits of tofu. I eat my tofu raw out of the package however, thus skipping that issue; yes, it tastes just fine for me that way.



If my gums weren't halfway gone, I'd eat some red bean paste. Junk food, but healthier than American sweets.

I will not consume soy protein isolate or soybean oil, however.

I can break my own rules. I bought some Ezekiel 4:9 bread with cinnamon raisin to beta test for my mom's cancer treatment. I think I overate my digestive tract though(sweets always trigger a "binge"...first time I had an achy colon in a while....so I bought Arnold Butter bread for her as well.
(My binges are barely binges to standard american eaters. The "binge" was 3-5 slices.)
I was looking at Dave's killer bread but I cannot support yet another criminal who simply channeled unethical tendencies into legitimate field yet still prone immorality.
 

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I'm man enough to not be afraid of a little extra estrogen. It's the only thing stopping me from having rapid heartbeat episodes
Are you getting your "medical advice" from an actual medical doctor??

:oops:

(sounds more like its from Dr Facebook!)
 

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Are you getting your "medical advice" from an actual medical doctor??

:oops:

(sounds more like its from Dr Facebook!)
I mean, in addition to that nonsense, he did mention cinnamon raisin bread as a cancer treatment... didn't work out too well for Steve Jobs.
 
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having rapid heartbeat episodes

I mean, in addition to that nonsense, he did mention cinnamon raisin bread as a cancer treatment... didn't work out too well for Steve Jobs.

Seriously it sounds to me like he might very well being having episodes of AFIB which dramatically increases the chances of a major heart-attack or a stroke and can be indicative of the onset of heart-disease/failure.

He also apparently has some nasty gum-disease going on which can contribute to life-threatening heart-problems over the long term.


EDIT: To be clear I am NOT an MD myself however I am smart enough (barely lol) to know when its time to go see one and Torn mind is majorly past-due.
 
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Seriously it sounds to me like he might very well being having episodes of AFIB which dramatically increases the chances of a major heart-attack or a stroke and can be indicative of the onset of heart-disease/failure.

He also apparently has some nasty gum-disease going on which can contribute to life-threatening heart-problems over the long term.


EDIT: To be clear I am NOT an MD myself however I am smart enough (barely lol) to know when its time to go see one and Torn mind is majorly past-due.
Neither doc referred me to any heart specialist. I suspect being on Medicaid has something to do with it. Heck, I thought the previous one was half-assing, but the new one I picked wouldn't even order regular blood tests because too little time has passed(Nov to mid-April)
It's the last remaining feature of COVID infection I got in Feb 2021; I haven't been infected since and I've filled the war chest with vitamins C and D these days, along with every other micronutrient on the spectrum. .

My triglycerides are a 55 after my most recent blood test with Kaiser. That's with a meal earlier in the day with cream cheese and kielbasa sausage. A1C down to 5.4.

August will be the first step in finally getting to the gum disease with a deep cleaning. IN the mean time, I'm just providing the war materials so no further damage or inflammation occurs. I have deep pockets but it wasn't a bleeding fest on every tooth, only some when the periodontist did her probing.

I probably could get troponin tested and an EKG by presenting myself to the emergency room claiming I feel faint and my heart is ready to leap out of my chest. But a scrawny, arguably underweight(but well fed), with LOW blood pressure 33 year old is not exactly the type of heart issue patient a medical pro expects to see. Plus the ER is a bitch in terms of wait times.
 

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I probably could get troponin tested and an EKG by presenting myself to the emergency room claiming I feel faint and my heart is ready to leap out of my chest. But a scrawny, arguably underweight(but well fed), with LOW blood pressure 33 year old is not exactly the type of heart issue patient a medical pro expects to see. Plus the ER is a bitch in terms of wait times.

If you've been having intermittent irregular heart-beat for ANY reason then you need to see a cardiologist asap.... and if you told your regular MD that this was happening and they failed to refer you to one (likely due to you being 33 NOT due to Medicaid) then you need a better MD.

Sorry but I don't believe that you are "well-fed" or "healthy" in any way. :(
 
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If you've been having intermittent irregular heart-beat for ANY reason then you need to see a cardiologist asap.... and if you told your regular MD that this was happened and they failed to refer you to one (likely due to you being 33) then you need a better MD.
I don't think it's intermittent. Just that after physical activity or caffeine, it feels rather...rushed in the area if I hadn't eaten tofu in over a week.

I can dance around my MCO's numerous docs but I'm not expecting much. My Long COVID is entered into the system.
 

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Heightened heart rate is not a medical symptom in most cases. I even hazard a guess that your heightened heart rate is psychosomatic based on your issues with foods.

You create anxiety and increased heart rate by eating things you *think* are affecting your health. No different than a bulimic or anorexic.
 

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Heightened heart rate is not a medical symptom in most cases. I even hazard a guess that your heightened heart rate is psychosomatic based on your issues with foods.

You create anxiety and increased heart rate by eating things you *think* are affecting your health. No different than a bulimic or anorexic.
Heightened heart-rate is just fine during/shortly after physical exertion.

IRREGULAR heightened heart-rate OTOH is very much not fine. :oops:

It might be nothing but I certainly wouldn't suggest ignoring it considering the potential consequences.

(also it's not something that can be treated in any way by eating tofu!)
 
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