Keith Olbermann 9-11-06 Speech - We Have Not Forgotten Mr President

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yllus

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Copying and pasting that sentence isn't exactly trumping any argument. Instead it's making you look like a complete tool; a complete tool with no knowledge of why it's taken five years thus far. But hey, you've got copy-paste on your side.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Smilin

If there was a gleaming 1776 foot tower standing in New York right now our enemies would be the ones making excuses about why they could not defeat American spirit.

Say what you want. There is still a hole in the ground and the excuses have dried up.

Exactly, there is no explanation other than America has lost that there remains a giant hole in the ground five years later.
 

palindrome

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Olberman is full of air.... I bet the smug bastard drives a fvcking Prius. He can go day by day smelling his own farts, but I'll never watch his show. If you are pissed about the hole in the ground stop fvcking talking about "how to make things better" and actually fvcking do something. That is what I don't understand about some people, don't b!tch unless you have tried to help solve the problem yourself, instead of giving your 2 cents which god only knows that most people couldn't give a flying fvck about.
 

getbush

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Well, planning for the original towers began in '62, construction in '66, one tower was completed in '70, the other in '72. That's 10 years. Sources I find still say the Freedom Tower will be open for occupancy in 2011. - 10 years Plus, the ground was a giant mess and a crime seen if you will, into 2002. If they can open it in 2011, which we'll just have to wait and see, that's pretty good. There is obviously some kind of business and realatively local political jostling going, but this still isn't the kind of thing you do a rush job on.
I don't like the current administration, but I can't see blaming them for this. It must remain largely a private venture. Olberman is a sensational bag of hot air.
Dave, we know, and you know there are worthless conservative pundits on TV. Do even you believe that the liberal talking heads are all perfect and none can do any wrong? Honest question.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: getbush
Well, planning for the original towers began in '62, construction in '66, one tower was completed in '70, the other in '72. That's 10 years. Sources I find still say the Freedom Tower will be open for occupancy in 2011. - 10 years Plus, the ground was a giant mess and a crime seen if you will, into 2002. If they can open it in 2011, which we'll just have to wait and see, that's pretty good. There is obviously some kind of business and realatively local political jostling going, but this still isn't the kind of thing you do a rush job on.
I don't like the current administration, but I can't see blaming them for this. It must remain largely a private venture. Olberman is a sensational bag of hot air.
Dave, we know, and you know there are worthless conservative pundits on TV. Do even you believe that the liberal talking heads are all perfect and none can do any wrong? Honest question.

Wow, someone called "getbush" is in agreement that we shouldn't blame Bush for ground zero still being a hole in the ground.
Isn't most of the delay caused by fighting over the memorial and events like that. Didn't they just have to do a major redesign because the original plans were WAY to expensive?

Maybe Bush should sign an executive order tomorrow declaring ground zero to be a national monument and then the Feds can take over all development there. Wonder what Olbermann would say then?
 

LunarRay

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The more time that passes the less likely there will be objection to a more lucrative creation on that VERY VERY valuable land.... you need to realize income from that site too... a memorial is fine.. but they need to create enough office space to meet the needs of the community as well.. lots of revenue generated from that and the associated income tax.. from the workers etc.. and the bigger the better.. more jobs..

I say.. put a wall somewhere with names on it and create a few 110 story buildings.. but start now.. time is money..
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: Craig234

My gosh, are schools still teaching civics?
Obviously not, since you fail to understand that nowhere in the Constitution is the president responsible for putting buildings up in New York City.
 

Craig234

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"Obviously not, since you fail to understand that nowhere in the Constitution is the president responsible for putting buildings up in New York City."

The consitution doesn't say he puts a man on the moon or makes Yosemite a national park or cures Polio, either.

But the president has a role to lead such things. The president can lead for the WTC to be rebuilt in some form.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Craig234
"Obviously not, since you fail to understand that nowhere in the Constitution is the president responsible for putting buildings up in New York City."

The consitution doesn't say he puts a man on the moon or makes Yosemite a national park or cures Polio, either.

But the president has a role to lead such things. The president can lead for the WTC to be rebuilt in some form.

Show me where in the Constitution it says the President must lead the U.S. as being the World's Policeman.
 

outriding

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Craig234
"Obviously not, since you fail to understand that nowhere in the Constitution is the president responsible for putting buildings up in New York City."

The consitution doesn't say he puts a man on the moon or makes Yosemite a national park or cures Polio, either.

But the president has a role to lead such things. The president can lead for the WTC to be rebuilt in some form.

Show me where in the Constitution it says the President must lead the U.S. as being the World's Policeman.

Dave you forgot Nation building
 

FuzzyBee

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Originally posted by: Smilin

It's five years later and nothing has been done. There are no excuses left and there is no argument that ANY of you can make that will withstand this sad fact.

Go ahead and reply. Go ahead and say ANYTHING you want. I'll just copy-paste that sentence and it will trump your argument.

Maybe in your little world it will, but to everyone else, it just shows that you have no argument at all.
 

Zorba

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Originally posted by: LunarRay
The more time that passes the less likely there will be objection to a more lucrative creation on that VERY VERY valuable land.... you need to realize income from that site too... a memorial is fine.. but they need to create enough office space to meet the needs of the community as well.. lots of revenue generated from that and the associated income tax.. from the workers etc.. and the bigger the better.. more jobs..

I say.. put a wall somewhere with names on it and create a few 110 story buildings.. but start now.. time is money..


I completely agree. The idea of making a huge building that isn't very useful (ie the last version of the 'Freedom tower' that I saw) as a memorial is completely stupid.
 

Moonbeam

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I think we should build a huge robotic building on the site that can defend itself with AI, rockets, lasers, and toxic gas, etc, like self repair. It should probably also be able to retract into the earth and cover itself with massive plate.
 

getbush

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Wow, someone called "getbush" is in agreement that we shouldn't blame Bush for ground zero still being a hole in the ground.
Isn't most of the delay caused by fighting over the memorial and events like that. Didn't they just have to do a major redesign because the original plans were WAY to expensive?

Maybe Bush should sign an executive order tomorrow declaring ground zero to be a national monument and then the Feds can take over all development there. Wonder what Olbermann would say then?

It's probably about time that I mention or maybe even put in my sig that my own last name happens to be Bush.

 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Craig234
"Obviously not, since you fail to understand that nowhere in the Constitution is the president responsible for putting buildings up in New York City."

The consitution doesn't say he puts a man on the moon or makes Yosemite a national park or cures Polio, either.

But the president has a role to lead such things. The president can lead for the WTC to be rebuilt in some form.

Show me where in the Constitution it says the President must lead the U.S. as being the World's Policeman.
He shouldn't be doing that either.