kazaa still won't connect behind firewall/NAT

dpopiz

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I recently started using Winroute Firewall 5.0 for my internet sharing box. I now can't get kazaa lite to connect on another machine on the lan, even though I've permitted traffic both ways on UDP 1214 and TCP 1214 on winroute. is there anything else I need to do?
 

jonmullen

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Originally posted by: Chumpman
This should be a bonus. :D

what does that mean?

I dont see why its not connecting...I mean Kazaa was made to do whatever it takes to find a connection even if it means going through port 80 and being a pain in sys admin's side. Is it letting you search or not?
 

dpopiz

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interestingly enough, it's not even connecting at all. it just says "connecting..." in the bottom right corner indefinitely. I've also tried setting the incoming port it uses to 80, but that didn't work. yeah I thought it was weird that it can't even "connect", but then again I don't have a clue what it actually does when it "connects", so maybe it does make sense.
just in case I didn't mention, it worked perfectly a few days ago when I was using a hardware router, and stopped abruptly when I switched to winroute firewall.
 

dpopiz

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I only used it for a short time. I stopped because it wouldn't let me run a web server behind it. even d-link insisted that there's no way to get a web server visible behind their router. heh
 

kursplat

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even d-link insisted that there's no way to get a web server visible behind their router. heh
even putting the comp in the DMZ and opening all the ports ? now thats security!
good luck
 

dpopiz

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well I didn't do that of course. :)

anyway, back on topic: how can I get my kazaa working?
 

kursplat

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just to make sure , EVERYTHING ELSE is getting online without a problem ?
good luck
 

Chumpman

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Originally posted by: jonmullen
Originally posted by: Chumpman
This should be a bonus. :D

what does that mean?

I dont see why its not connecting...I mean Kazaa was made to do whatever it takes to find a connection even if it means going through port 80 and being a pain in sys admin's side. Is it letting you search or not?

It means that kazaa is a spyware infested pile of crap and of which the only main purpose is to pirate copyrighted material.
 

kursplat

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It means that kazaa is a spyware infested pile of crap and of which the only main purpose is to pirate copyrighted material
a: he has the lite version which i believe has the spyware stripped out of it , also you can only be spyed on if you don't know it's happening.

b: there are legal uses uses for shareware just like cd burners and VCR's
 

jonmullen

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Originally posted by: Chumpman
Originally posted by: jonmullen
Originally posted by: Chumpman
This should be a bonus. :D

what does that mean?

I dont see why its not connecting...I mean Kazaa was made to do whatever it takes to find a connection even if it means going through port 80 and being a pain in sys admin's side. Is it letting you search or not?

It means that kazaa is a spyware infested pile of crap and of which the only main purpose is to pirate copyrighted material.


Well there is such a thing as Kazaa lite, and just b/c its is used to pirate copyrighted material does not mean he could no be using it for some legit purpose. Maybe he chooses to use Kazaa as a way to get quality music that Record companies lie EMI refuse to make avaliable to him. To some people P2P is the only way to obtain non sabotoged music. Just take a look at this and you can see how the record companies are trying to exploit consumers at eveery turn.
 

dpopiz

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ok thanks all for the support of P2P, but I'd like it if we could get back on topic. I still haven't been able to get it to connect and it's driving me nuts!
 

dpopiz

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ah! I've figured out a vital piece of information, which may ring a bell for one of you:
the reason it's not working is because kazaa initially connects using a random outgoing port, so there's no way I can config my firewall to allow that port.
does anybody know of a way to get kazaa to use always use a specific outgoing port for connecting?
 

kursplat

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i've never used Winroute Firewall but might it be like norton , in that you need to set a permission in the firewall to allow the kazaa.exe access ?
good luck
 

dpopiz

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no, it's not like norton or zonealarm where you can set application permssions. the firewall is part of the NAT that's running on my server. I'm running kazaa on a different machine so all it could possibly deny is a port. (which is what it's doing. like I said, it's dropping packets with any ports other than the few I've specified to accept. the problem is that I don't know what port kazaa is using to connect, and from what I've read, it sounds like that changes every time I load it
 

dpopiz

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yeah, from what I read, it uses 1214 for file transfers. my problem is that it won't even connect, because apparently it uses a random port to connect. I even tried temporarely allowing all ports on the firewall, and then kazaa connected, but if I close kazaa and start it again, or even if I wait a few minutes, it picks a different port and tries to reconnect. I think I need some way to stop kazaa from using a random port and instead use a port that I choose.
 

jleon

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There should be log features on winroute (if it doesn't, seems to be crappy software) where you can see the activity and what is being dropped. That might point you to the right direction in figuring out what other ports you need to open.

g'luck!