Kazaa security question

[SP33Demon]

How hard would it be for the RIAA to find me if I was using Kazaa and was on a router with an NAT? Could they still go through the company and identify my computer, or only narrow it down to the router? Not that I'm breaking the law or anything, but I still like to use it to find rare live music and was worried I could still be prosecuted.

 

[Hoober]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
How hard would it be for the RIAA to find me if I was using Kazaa and was on a router with an NAT? Could they still go through the company and identify my computer, or only narrow it down to the router? Not that I'm breaking the law or anything, but I still like to use it to find rare live music and was worried I could still be prosecuted.

You're not?

 

[Leetman]

Unless you're running a server or something I wouldn't really worry about it.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Leetman
Unless you're running a server or something I wouldn't really worry about it.

If I just left Kazaa on all day like I normally do, is that considered running a server? I have a bunch of live MP3's and some rips from the CD's I own in MP3 and WAV format which I share.

How could they track down my IP if my router has a NAT? Would this protect me or anyone on the router (who I'm also responsible for, but don't monitor what they do online) is the question...

 

[iwearnosox]

Lol, if they want to find you it's pretty easy.

 

[Twista]

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Lol, if they want to find you it's pretty easy.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Twista

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Lol, if they want to find you it's pretty easy.

So there is no way to protect yourself from these people? Somehow this is hard to believe.

 

[Shooters]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
How hard would it be for the RIAA to find me if I was using Kazaa and was on a router with an NAT? Could they still go through the company and identify my computer, or only narrow it down to the router? Not that I'm breaking the law or anything, but I still like to use it to find rare live music and was worried I could still be prosecuted.

You're downloading mp3s at work?

 

[freebee]

The average user has little to fear from the RIAA. You are more likely to die from drowning in the shower than to have the RIAA prosecute you. Besides, most people don't have the upload capacity to really attract attention.

Back in the day when me and the coworkers used to have a server on the school connection, served hundred of gigs of week...(even killed a nice SCSI HD from all that work)....that might draw attention. A residential DSL/cable user with caps....unlikely.

 

[dman]

If you have files being shared, they can get the list and your public IP and the time of day.

They then subpoena your ISP who can use their logs to determine which user was online that day at that time.

They then send a letter to your household with whatever they plan to do at that point.

The homeowner would then have to prove they are innocent and/or stop doing what they are accused of by RIAA.

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<- Wonders what happens if they sue you w/o any warning and you claim your PC was hacked or you run an open WISP out of your home. I'm guessing you still gotta pay--when you lose.

 

[AndrewNF]

The latest Kazaa K++ (version 2.40 ) has a new feature: "Block RIAA and other organizations from connecting, downloading and uploading to you." I assume it blocks out the known IP address ranges, so they couldn't find out what files you have or send you files.

 

[dman]

Originally posted by: freebee
The average user has little to fear from the RIAA. You are more likely to die from drowning in the shower than to have the RIAA prosecute you. Besides, most people don't have the upload capacity to really attract attention.

It's not the speed I'd be worried about, it's lalso the amount of files you would have available for download. They will go after big fish first, but, like DTV they will send out letters to lots of people and extort a few grand from those who are 'probably' guilty and can't afford to prove otherwise.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Shooters

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
How hard would it be for the RIAA to find me if I was using Kazaa and was on a router with an NAT? Could they still go through the company and identify my computer, or only narrow it down to the router? Not that I'm breaking the law or anything, but I still like to use it to find rare live music and was worried I could still be prosecuted.

You're downloading mp3s at work?

My bad, I meant my ISP.

Is there a way to mask your upload bandwidth? Some type of program? How does the RIAA find out how much someone is uploading anyway? It seems like this company (RIAA) is taking the law into their own hands, for something that isn't even illegal (trading of music you already own and live music). :frown:

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: AndrewNF
The latest Kazaa K++ (version 2.40 ) has a new feature: "Block RIAA and other organizations from connecting, downloading and uploading to you." I assume it blocks out the known IP address ranges, so they couldn't find out what files you have or send you files.

Neat. How does Kazaa K++ compare to KazaaLite?

 

[Angrymarshmello]

Originally posted by: AndrewNF
The latest Kazaa K++ (version 2.40 ) has a new feature: "Block RIAA and other organizations from connecting, downloading and uploading to you." I assume it blocks out the known IP address ranges, so they couldn't find out what files you have or send you files.

Rob: If you're paranoid, do what he said - 2.4 has a "blocking" feature - I don't know much about it and I'll assume it works like PeerGuardian

PeerGuardian - basically works like a mini-firewall. If you get this program let me know and I'll send u IP list (about 140 ranges and counting)

 

[Angrymarshmello]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: AndrewNF
The latest Kazaa K++ (version 2.40 ) has a new feature: "Block RIAA and other organizations from connecting, downloading and uploading to you." I assume it blocks out the known IP address ranges, so they couldn't find out what files you have or send you files.

Neat. How does Kazaa K++ compare to KazaaLite?

They're the same thing afaik

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello

Originally posted by: AndrewNF
The latest Kazaa K++ (version 2.40 ) has a new feature: "Block RIAA and other organizations from connecting, downloading and uploading to you." I assume it blocks out the known IP address ranges, so they couldn't find out what files you have or send you files.

Rob: If you're paranoid, do what he said - 2.4 has a "blocking" feature - I don't know much about it and I'll assume it works like PeerGuardian

PeerGuardian - basically works like a mini-firewall. If you get this program let me know and I'll send u IP list (about 140 ranges and counting)

Thanks Melvin! You da man. I'll have to check that out, didn't know the new version of K.Lite had that feature... I'll let you know when I d/l PeerGuardian as well...

-Rob

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Twista

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Lol, if they want to find you it's pretty easy.

So there is no way to protect yourself from these people? Somehow this is hard to believe.

Bout the only way is to move to another country until the statute of limitations runs out.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: AndrewNF
The latest Kazaa K++ (version 2.40 ) has a new feature: "Block RIAA and other organizations from connecting, downloading and uploading to you." I assume it blocks out the known IP address ranges, so they couldn't find out what files you have or send you files.

Nice, I just got it at home. Thanks