Kazaa Lite and a Router

[IQJUMPuw]

Hey all

I just downloaded Kazaa Lite, but my Linksys BEFSR41 router prevents me from connecting with someone with firewall... :-( I know there's no way to disable the router's built-in firewall, but I know you can open certain ports to fix this problem.

Can anyone tell me which port Kazaa Lite uses?

Thanks so much.

 

[amdskip]

1214 I believe.

 

[IQJUMPuw]

ok that's what google search gave me, but I can't get it to work!!!

I went to my router settings and clicked port range forwarding and I saw:

Ext.Port: 0 to 0
Protocol TCP: unchecked
Protocol UDP: unchecked
IP Address: 192.168.1.(0)
Enable: unchecked

So I changed it to:
Ext.Port: 1214 to 1214
Protocol TCP: checked
Protocol UDP: unchecked
IP Address: 192.168.1.100
Enable: checked

But this didn't open the port! :-( There was Port Triggering section too, but I didn't know what to type in there, so I left it blank. Does anyone with Linksys BEFSR41 router help me out here?

Thanks so much again!!!

 

[amdskip]

I have that router, never had to do anything to do it for Kazaa lite.

 

[IQJUMPuw]

I know I don't have to do anything and it will still work well with Kazaa. But you are behind a firewall, so you can't connect with someone who has firewall. It means that you will find less people to download from when you search for something. I've tried this without a router and it really makes a big difference. You get alot more results and download much faster.

 

[IQJUMPuw]

Can anyone please help?

 

[Red Squirrel]

Actually, I have this same problem. I can download ok, but I can't upload (others can't connect to me). I have a bunch of stuff I'd like to just share and leave it on all the time, but it does not work. I believe my router is the same model. I had done a port scan on my IP and the ports I redirected were not even open! So if anyone can help us with this it would be great.

 

[IQJUMPuw]

Yeah I mean... my downloading is ok. I'm not complaining, but it's so much better without firewall. But then, I left my computer running for couple hours without the router and someone hacked into my computer and planted a trojan virus... how lame...

sigh..

PLEASE HELP!

 

[IQJUMPuw]

BUMP!

 

[IQJUMPuw]

Ok I found out what the problem is. This is what someone on Kazaa forum said:

As far as I know being behind a firewall will greatly affect the number of downloads (and uploads) one has access to. The problem has nothing to do with supernodes, but rather has to do with the fact that the internal machines on a home network don't have valid IP addresses that can be reached from the outside (yes, technically one could have non-private IP's for all their machines, but that's not how the usual home network is set up). If both peers in an attempted connection have private IPs, the connection isn't going to happen, and that occurs extremely often on the kazaa network.

You state above that a properly configured firewall can fix this, but I'm not sure what you mean. AFAIK, port forwarding doesn't work with Kazaa because kazaa won't detect the real IP address and has no place to specify it.

Like I said, I'd love it if you could show me where I'm wrong here, but I've seen this issue come up over and over on these forums and I've never seen a solution posted or suggested. Obviously, though, you're here much more often than I and may know something recent that I missed.

Singe, if you want to see how large the effect of being behind a firewall is, go into options-Filter and uncheck "Filter files I cannot see due to firewalls". All those red X's you see (and I suspect you'll see an awful lot of them) are the cost of being behind a firewall on a local network.

Hmmm... I found out what the problem is, but how do I get it to work? Can someone please please help??

 

[Red Squirrel]

Interesting, somehow, you'd have to set your local IP to be the same as your real IP. But most routers are limited to the standard local IP range as far as I know. But maybe a quality router can do more than the linksys everyone has, like a good quality cisco router or something. Kazaa should really consider to put an option to enter the IP, at the least.

 

[IQJUMPuw]

So unless Kazaa do something, there's no way to bypass the built-in firewall on my router?

 

[ugh]

It's port 1214 for sure. There's some mention on it in the FAQ which is in KazaaLite's webpage.

 

[oLLie]

Originally posted by: ugh
It's port 1214 for sure. There's some mention on it in the FAQ which is in KazaaLite's webpage.

It sounds like he knows that, but even if port forwarding is enabled it won't work (he said something in an earlier post like Kazaa won't allow it). Correct me if I'm wrong though,


*edit* turns out he didn't state it but the guy he quoted from the other website said something to the effect that port forwarding doesn't work with Kazaa. If you guys set up your router to do port forwarding, how would you know if it even worked or if you were just getting the results from other people who weren't behind firewalls?

 

[IQJUMPuw]

Yeah Kazaa uses port 1214. But even if I do a port range forwarding, it doesn't fix the firewall problem.

I know this because when I uncheck "filter files that I cannot download due to firewalls," I get BUNCH of results with red x mark.

Does this mean people who are using a router with Kazaa won't be able to connect to other people behind firewalls no matter what? Unless Kazaa do something about this?

 

[oLLie]

bump, I'm curious now too.

 

[spidey07]

From reading that little snip-it there is no way to get around it. No matter what. If NAT is involved then it is simply impossible for it to work. There are other progams and protocols that have this problem as well.

Your PC is sending out frames to kazza with your internal IP address contained in the application layer of the protocol. Meaning your router will perform the NAT and change your interal IP to the external IP, but it will not modify the information in the application layer that says "hey, this is my ip - 192.168.0.10"

 

[IQJUMPuw]

Well... this really sucks...

Thanks so much guys anyways for trying to help.

I would use Kazaa without a router, but people start hacking my computer the moment I disconnect my router and I find like 7+ viruses when I do a virus scan not to mention those annoying Windows Messenger Service pop up ads. I have over 1000 files shared in Kazaa and only like 2-5 people connect to me even when I leave my computer on all night. :-(

 

[deeznuts]

there is no option to make your computer a dmz host (demilitarized zone or demarcation zone)? i do this with dlink, and it works good. although with my dlink, behind a firewall or straight to a cable, my download speeds and options work fine.

 

[PowerEngineer]

I'm running Kazaa Lite on a machine behind an SMC Barricade Plus without too much trouble. I do see that some connections don't get made (i.e. try to connect and then drop into "more sources"), and I suppose these could be others behind similar routers. Still, I can usually download what I'm looking for, and have seen uploads go through too.