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Karma

UnatcoAgent

UnatcoAgent

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Do you believe in Karma?

I'm curious as to how many ATOTer's are influenced by the thought of it in their day to day activities.

I certianly do, I think I believe in it more than anything else.
 
No, but I do believe someone who is positive to themselves and others will surround themselves with similar people making for a more enjoyable life.

I do not believe that if you stop on the side of the road and help someone (a complete stranger) change a flat tire that your life will all of a sudden improve.
 
Most people if they knew what Karma was, on hearing what I believe would say that I do. I however don't persoanlly believe I do.

There is no option for that so I abstain.
 
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Karma does not exist. Their is no magical force that rewards you for helping an old lady across the street.
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I don't mean it in such an extreme way. I do think that if you do a good deed, it will come back to you at some point. Likewise for the opposite.
 
I don't think about it on a daily basis but it really does seem that "what comes around goes around." It may take years but it often happens. I don't live my life around it or do anything extra special to have good things happen to me, though. I do nice things beacause I want to.
 
I see it all the time in my life. So at least for me it exists......


what goes around always comes around it cannot be denied.


kind of a wierd sidetrack to this idea:

couple days ago i found my self about 20 miles short of my house without money, credit card, and NO GAS. Luckily a friend of mine was able to come save me and give me some gas money.

Yesterday I'm leaving a gas station, a girl stops me and ask if I have any change because she is out of gas and trying to get somewhere....why she stopped me in particular i dont really know but you bet your a$$ i gave that girl all the singles in my pocket and told her what had happened to me and "what goes around comes around" she nodded and we went our seperate ways.
 
I believe in the fallacious causal relationships that people derive after the effect. It's referred to as post hoc ergo propter hoc; after a positive outcome people like to associate a causal relationship with something entirely nonsensical in the past, and some people choose karma. This behavior doensn't surprise me, because there are people who believe that celestial bodies influence human behavior.
 
Hippie Salesman "Dude Karma"
Homer "Huh?"
Hippie Salesman "Karma, Karma." <pointing to tip jar>
Homer "Oh... Riiight." <walks away>
 
Originally posted by: gigapet
I see it all the time in my life. So at least for me it exists......


what goes around always comes around it cannot be denied.
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No one denies that things come around, but any rational person would absolutely deny that subsequent "coming arounds" were somehow causally related to the "going arounds." 🙂

I'm having a great day today, and I think it's because of a minor altruistic deed I did the other day. Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.
 
Originally posted by: Descartes
I believe in the fallacious causal relationships that people derive after the effect. It's referred to as post hoc ergo propter hoc; after a positive outcome people like to associate a causal relationship with something entirely nonsensical in the past, and some people choose karma. This behavior doensn't surprise me, because there are people who believe that celestial bodies influence human behavior.
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I don't think it's that simple - I do agree with you to a certain degree, because I can see why people would do that.

Celestial bodies influencing behavior is not something I believe in, however.
 
Originally posted by: Sabot
Originally posted by: Descartes
I believe in the fallacious causal relationships that people derive after the effect. It's referred to as post hoc ergo propter hoc; after a positive outcome people like to associate a causal relationship with something entirely nonsensical in the past, and some people choose karma. This behavior doensn't surprise me, because there are people who believe that celestial bodies influence human behavior.
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I don't think it's that simple - I do agree with you to a certain degree, because I can see why people would do that.

Celestial bodies influencing behavior is not something I believe in, however.
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The moon and the sun cycles have been proven to effect ppl and animals
 
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: Sabot
Originally posted by: Descartes
I believe in the fallacious causal relationships that people derive after the effect. It's referred to as post hoc ergo propter hoc; after a positive outcome people like to associate a causal relationship with something entirely nonsensical in the past, and some people choose karma. This behavior doensn't surprise me, because there are people who believe that celestial bodies influence human behavior.
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I don't think it's that simple - I do agree with you to a certain degree, because I can see why people would do that.

Celestial bodies influencing behavior is not something I believe in, however.
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The moon and the sun cycles have been proven to effect ppl and animals
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Yep, the moon's gravitational pull can effect something a huge as the tides, it would only make sense that it would effect the water in our own bodies. Also, many people have a condition known as SAD where they get depressed in the winter from lack of sunlight.
 
Originally posted by: Sabot
Originally posted by: Descartes
I believe in the fallacious causal relationships that people derive after the effect. It's referred to as post hoc ergo propter hoc; after a positive outcome people like to associate a causal relationship with something entirely nonsensical in the past, and some people choose karma. This behavior doensn't surprise me, because there are people who believe that celestial bodies influence human behavior.
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I don't think it's that simple - I do agree with you to a certain degree, because I can see why people would do that.

Celestial bodies influencing behavior is not something I believe in, however.
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How is it not that simple? People conduct all sorts of idiotic rituals under the belief that it somehow influences the outcome; a positive outcome means it works, and a negative outcome is forgotten. I'm guilty of the same behavior at times, but that doesn't change the fact that it's irrational.

If there is an effect in my life I could derive almost an infinite number of causal relationship, including: karma, celestial bodies, the weather, how I combed my hair that morning, what I ate, ad nauseum. The fact that I could do precisely the same thing the following day and get a different result doesn't seem to persuade the mystics; determinism isn't a necessary attribute of these quixotic forces that seem to so covet their credulous pawns.
 
I don't let it dictate what I do on a daily basis but I do believe in it.

Take for example my greedy ex-boss. He's stepped on so many toes to get where he is in life. Look at him now just 12 months after I left him. He's got a chronic neurological disease which has basically left him incapacitated and unable to enjoy his money.

I didn't wish it upon him but like people say, what comes around goes around. I've seen and experienced so many of these kinds of things that I do believe in karma.
 
[chicken little]OMG THE SKY IS FALLING ARHHHHH!!! WHY DID I EAT THAT LAST COOKIE INSTEAD OF LETTING THE DISABLED KID HAVE IT!!ARGHHHHHHH[/chicken little]
 
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