Kabini IPC, what generation are we talking about?

[Erenhardt]

Exactly. At similar price and slightly higher power consumption Haswell Pentiums/Celerons are all around superior.

Shame this agument doesn't work when you put "AMD FX" instead of intel pentium/celeron. Suddenly 10 Watts at much higher power envelope makes or breaks chip. but has no effect when we talk about 30Watt SOC?

 

[Roland00Address]

beg to differ, the Athlon 5350 is quite capable.

What video game are you playing on the 5350? What settings, what resolution, I am seriously curious.

For htpc use I do not disagree it is quite capable. But for gaming...yeah some old games will play fine but they also play fine on the intel system that uses less power. I honestly am curious what games are possible because you slapped a 15 watt video card on the 5350 compared to the atom solution.

 

[monstercameron]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhmn6eRX06LUxuHLf3aJFyuuqEaDCeQjD
I was using the a6-5200 but it is basically the same apu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y9WBv5-R-Y
Although not high enough for competitive play.

 

[Enigmoid]

you said 128 GCN is no match for 10 Haswell EUs, without other informations this might not be true,
in this case it's 600 vs 1050MHz, GCN can normally work at higher clocks, maybe not 1GHz with the GloFo 28nm process, but still should be able to go higher with a higher TDP, and as I said 64bit vs 128bit memory is affecting the comparison,

single module FM2 CPUs are no match for the dual core Haswell (higher power draw, lower performance, no cost advantage), and the 2 module CPUs are more expensive.

Which is the entire point. The two do not run at the same clocks (I doubt the igp in the 5350 is physically capable of running at 1 ghz+) and thus a conclusion "at the same clocks" is invalid.

Shame this agument doesn't work when you put "AMD FX" instead of intel pentium/celeron. Suddenly 10 Watts at much higher power envelope makes or breaks chip. but has no effect when we talk about 30Watt SOC?

Hint: Its not 10W.

 

[Erenhardt]

Dunno what does that represent. Board power delivery capabilities?

 

[Enigmoid]

Dunno what does that represent. Board power delivery capabilities?

System power.

 

[Exophase]

Did you exclude all the multithreaded benches, since the bobcat is a dualcore and the P4 a singlecore?

Did you, when you made your original statement? There's only one test there that even comes close to similar perf/MHz (and not that close) and I doubt it's the only single threaded one.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Did you, when you made your original statement? There's only one test there that even comes close to similar perf/MHz (and not that close) and I doubt it's the only single threaded one.

What other singlethreaded do you see?

 

[Exophase]

What other singlethreaded do you see?

I don't know which ones are and which ones aren't, except for the ones explicitly labeled as being mulithreaded. I guess what you're saying is we should only be looking at the Cinebench single threaded score, which isn't even close to broadly representative by itself, and doesn't do a great job illustrating your claim anyway.