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klipschman

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"I suspect the only reason 110 rounds was all that was fired was that's all the ammunition they had," Judd said. "We were not going to take any chance of him shooting back."

The suspect had already killed 1 cop, 1 K9, and wounded another cop.

Dont EVER mess with cops.
 

SarcasticDwarf

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You know, on the one hand I say good. On the other, it just goes to show what loose cannons (no pun intended) many cops are. This shows a complete and total lack of control on their part.
 
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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
You know, on the one hand I say good. On the other, it just goes to show what loose cannons (no pun intended) many cops are. This shows a complete and total lack of control on their part.

If this is the event that I'm thinking it is, then they were "gunning down" a cop killer. IMO, if you've already killed him, it doesn't make things any worse to just keep shooting.
 
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Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
You know, on the one hand I say good. On the other, it just goes to show what loose cannons (no pun intended) many cops are. This shows a complete and total lack of control on their part.

If this is the event that I'm thinking it is, then they were "gunning down" a cop killer. IMO, if you've already killed him, it doesn't make things any worse to just keep shooting.

I think the Dwarf is being Sarcastic.

- M4H
 

giantpinkbunnyhead

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Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
You know, on the one hand I say good. On the other, it just goes to show what loose cannons (no pun intended) many cops are. This shows a complete and total lack of control on their part.

If this is the event that I'm thinking it is, then they were "gunning down" a cop killer. IMO, if you've already killed him, it doesn't make things any worse to just keep shooting.

LOL!! True, true.. bullets are cheap enough and besides... 110 shots fired and only 68 hit... clearly they need the additional practice anyway so I say they should have reloaded and taken advantage of a human target.
 

Atheus

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Err, deliberate mutilation of dead bodies for sport is not funny. Would you all think that was funny if he was your family member, and you had to show his body to his mother with no face left?
 

klipschman

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Originally posted by: Atheus
Err, deliberate mutilation of dead bodies for sport is not funny. Would you all think that was funny if he was your family member, and you had to show his body to his mother with no face left?

He had killed a cop, a K9 and wounded another cop. He deserved no less.
 

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A very important thing police need from the public it serves is trust. Can you trust the police if they dont apply the law equally to citizens?
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
You know, on the one hand I say good. On the other, it just goes to show what loose cannons (no pun intended) many cops are. This shows a complete and total lack of control on their part.

If this is the event that I'm thinking it is, then they were "gunning down" a cop killer. IMO, if you've already killed him, it doesn't make things any worse to just keep shooting.

LOL!! True, true.. bullets are cheap enough and besides... 110 shots fired and only 68 hit... clearly they need the additional practice anyway so I say they should have reloaded and taken advantage of a human target.

I was not being at all sarcastic. I think the cops involved should not ever be on the streets again if they have that little control. Sure, in an actual warzone you *might* shoot a guy 4-5 times if you were concerned, but the most you would ever need to hit anyone is three times. Clearly the cops here were either a) Shooting him a hundred times for the hell of it or b) Shooting him a hundred times because once they started pulling the trigger they could not stop.

 

Atheus

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Originally posted by: klipschman
Originally posted by: Atheus
Err, deliberate mutilation of dead bodies for sport is not funny. Would you all think that was funny if he was your family member, and you had to show his body to his mother with no face left?

He had killed a cop, a K9 and wounded another cop. He deserved no less.

Who are you to say what he deserved?

A couple of rounds to the head would have been just as effective. It seems to me they enjoyed this, which worries me.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
You know, on the one hand I say good. On the other, it just goes to show what loose cannons (no pun intended) many cops are. This shows a complete and total lack of control on their part.

If this is the event that I'm thinking it is, then they were "gunning down" a cop killer. IMO, if you've already killed him, it doesn't make things any worse to just keep shooting.

LOL!! True, true.. bullets are cheap enough and besides... 110 shots fired and only 68 hit... clearly they need the additional practice anyway so I say they should have reloaded and taken advantage of a human target.
but the most you would ever need to hit anyone is three times.
How do you know that, and how do you know if the cops knew how many bullets were hitting him?
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
You know, on the one hand I say good. On the other, it just goes to show what loose cannons (no pun intended) many cops are. This shows a complete and total lack of control on their part.

If this is the event that I'm thinking it is, then they were "gunning down" a cop killer. IMO, if you've already killed him, it doesn't make things any worse to just keep shooting.

LOL!! True, true.. bullets are cheap enough and besides... 110 shots fired and only 68 hit... clearly they need the additional practice anyway so I say they should have reloaded and taken advantage of a human target.
but the most you would ever need to hit anyone is three times.
How do you know that, and how do you know if the cops knew how many bullets were hitting him?

It is the "two in the chest one in the head" philosophy. People don't get up after that. Also, the cops HAD to have a rough idea of how many shots hit while they were firing. If they didn't, then they were not in control.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
You know, on the one hand I say good. On the other, it just goes to show what loose cannons (no pun intended) many cops are. This shows a complete and total lack of control on their part.

If this is the event that I'm thinking it is, then they were "gunning down" a cop killer. IMO, if you've already killed him, it doesn't make things any worse to just keep shooting.

LOL!! True, true.. bullets are cheap enough and besides... 110 shots fired and only 68 hit... clearly they need the additional practice anyway so I say they should have reloaded and taken advantage of a human target.
but the most you would ever need to hit anyone is three times.
How do you know that, and how do you know if the cops knew how many bullets were hitting him?

It is the "two in the chest one in the head" philosophy. People don't get up after that. Also, the cops HAD to have a rough idea of how many shots hit while they were firing. If they didn't, then they were not in control.

HAH! You try firing a gun in that type of situation and see how accurate you are. Contrary to popular belief, police officers are not expert marksman. Sure, they go through a decent amount of training at the range, but there is NO type of training that will prepare you for being confronted with an armed and moving suspect.

As for Atheus, if my son was a cop killer, I'd be absolutely disgraced. He would've got what he deserved by these cops unloading into him.
 

datalink7

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Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: klipschman
Originally posted by: Atheus
Err, deliberate mutilation of dead bodies for sport is not funny. Would you all think that was funny if he was your family member, and you had to show his body to his mother with no face left?

He had killed a cop, a K9 and wounded another cop. He deserved no less.

Who are you to say what he deserved?

A couple of rounds to the head would have been just as effective. It seems to me they enjoyed this, which worries me.

"A couple rounds to the head." You obviously have no idea when it comes to an armed exchange. There are VERY FEW times when you'd even make an attempt at aiming for the head.
 

waggy

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the guy was hidingi n the bushes/tree. he had a gun. he had already killed one cop, a K9 and wounded another cop. the 2 in the chest one in the head is not working in this situation.

they did good. keep fireing until the guy is dead.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
You know, on the one hand I say good. On the other, it just goes to show what loose cannons (no pun intended) many cops are. This shows a complete and total lack of control on their part.

If this is the event that I'm thinking it is, then they were "gunning down" a cop killer. IMO, if you've already killed him, it doesn't make things any worse to just keep shooting.

LOL!! True, true.. bullets are cheap enough and besides... 110 shots fired and only 68 hit... clearly they need the additional practice anyway so I say they should have reloaded and taken advantage of a human target.
but the most you would ever need to hit anyone is three times.
How do you know that, and how do you know if the cops knew how many bullets were hitting him?

It is the "two in the chest one in the head" philosophy. People don't get up after that.
You're deluded. Three reasons why:

1) It's possible to get shot in the chest twice and in the head once and still present a threat.
2) It's difficult to shoot like that in all situations. I do not believe it is feasible to hold all officers to such a standard of marksmanship.
3) If the subject is wearing body armor, you can drop them with headshots or massive blood loss. The first requires extraordinary accuracy, while the second requires an extraordinary amount of bullet wounds (or wounds in the right places).
Also, the cops HAD to have a rough idea of how many shots hit while they were firing. If they didn't, then they were not in control.
How would YOU check if the subject was being hit by bullets? Could you always rely on the fact that bullet wounds bleed?
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
You know, on the one hand I say good. On the other, it just goes to show what loose cannons (no pun intended) many cops are. This shows a complete and total lack of control on their part.

If this is the event that I'm thinking it is, then they were "gunning down" a cop killer. IMO, if you've already killed him, it doesn't make things any worse to just keep shooting.

LOL!! True, true.. bullets are cheap enough and besides... 110 shots fired and only 68 hit... clearly they need the additional practice anyway so I say they should have reloaded and taken advantage of a human target.
but the most you would ever need to hit anyone is three times.
How do you know that, and how do you know if the cops knew how many bullets were hitting him?

It is the "two in the chest one in the head" philosophy. People don't get up after that. Also, the cops HAD to have a rough idea of how many shots hit while they were firing. If they didn't, then they were not in control.

HAH! You try firing a gun in that type of situation and see how accurate you are. Contrary to popular belief, police officers are not expert marksman. Sure, they go through a decent amount of training at the range, but there is NO type of training that will prepare you for being confronted with an armed and moving suspect.

As for Atheus, if my son was a cop killer, I'd be absolutely disgraced. He would've got what he deserved by these cops unloading into him.

Sure, handguns are NOT accurate, I never said they were. First, cops are expected to be good marksmen. It is their job to be able to accurately fire their weapon (note: I would not epect them to be expert, but considering most of them were SWAT, I expect them to be very good).
 

Praxis1452

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Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: klipschman
Originally posted by: Atheus
Err, deliberate mutilation of dead bodies for sport is not funny. Would you all think that was funny if he was your family member, and you had to show his body to his mother with no face left?

He had killed a cop, a K9 and wounded another cop. He deserved no less.

Who are you to say what he deserved?

A couple of rounds to the head would have been just as effective. It seems to me they enjoyed this, which worries me.

"A couple rounds to the head." You obviously have no idea when it comes to an armed exchange. There are VERY FEW times when you'd even make an attempt at aiming for the head.

qft... unless they have serious armor you always go for the chest.
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: waggy
the guy was hidingi n the bushes/tree. he had a gun. he had already killed one cop, a K9 and wounded another cop. the 2 in the chest one in the head is not working in this situation.

they did good. keep fireing until the guy is dead.

so you have say, 10 cops, maybe 11.

each cop shoots a full clip, and theres your 110 shots.

hitting something hidden, in a bush, not visible, 64 times out of 110 is good.

some people cant even hit a deer, with a scope, in the woods, with a clear sight line.