Just watchin' Lilo&Stitch

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flavio

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Originally posted by: MichaelD
L&S is one of the WORST childrens' movies ever made, period. It shows young, easily impressionable children the WRONG way to act with friends, teachers and last but certainly not least parents or authority figures.

You didn't notice that they didn't exactly portray the way the girl acted as a good thing?

I didn't see it as encouragement.

Weird.



 

eviltoon

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"Oh great...he found the chainsaw!".

That is one of the greatest lines I've ever heard in a movie. There I was watching the film with my three kids. They loved it, and that line had me rolling on the floor. My kids loved it, I loved it, my wife loved it. There is something kinda nice about a family all laughing and hanging out watching the same film. And for all those concerned social workers out there, my kids have yet to ask me for a chainsaw. So I think everythings just cool.
 

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Originally posted by: MichaelD

"Do it?" Do what? What did I do? Please don't tell me that you take offense to my interpretation of this movie? You can't be THAT namby-pamby!
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I find it intriguing that you would take such a violent opposition to what is overall a very light-hearted children's film.
 

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: MichaelD
"Do it?" Do what? What did I do? Please don't tell me that you take offense to my interpretation of this movie? You can't be THAT namby-pamby!
rolleye.gif

Apparently so. :p

Do you have any experience in raising children, Zakath?
If so, then I'd like to hear about it.
If not, and you're just getting offended at my interpretation of Lilo (disobiedient snot-nosed sniveling whiny little bitch) ... well then ... :D

- M4H

:p I've seen children raised in my family, and I've been one myself - I was probably one of the worst behaved, ill tempered little snots I've ever known. And that's just by my own admission.
 
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Originally posted by: Zakath15
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: MichaelD
"Do it?" Do what? What did I do? Please don't tell me that you take offense to my interpretation of this movie? You can't be THAT namby-pamby!
rolleye.gif

Apparently so. :p

Do you have any experience in raising children, Zakath?
If so, then I'd like to hear about it.
If not, and you're just getting offended at my interpretation of Lilo (disobiedient snot-nosed sniveling whiny little bitch) ... well then ... :D

- M4H

:p I've seen children raised in my family, and I've been one myself - I was probably one of the worst behaved, ill tempered little snots I've ever known. And that's just by my own admission.

<--- Doesn't even know Zakath, but will agree that he was one of the worst behaved, ill tempered little snots ever, just to supprt him (added bonus of making fun of him by simply repeating what he said, purely coincidental)
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;)

 

MichaelD

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*sigh* This is obviously a difference of opinion based on age and experience. (no slighting intended)

There is nothing light-hearted about this movie.

Let's compare this movie to The Lion King. The little lion's daddy gets killed by the power-hungry uncle and he's banished from the kingdom. (sounds like a typical American family that owns a business that's doing well, right? ;))

So, the little trooper sets off to find himself, blah, blah, and bumps into two misfits and they all grow up together. Fine and dandy.

Lilo and Stitch showcases an evil little girl w/no respect for authority at ALL, who happens to be in the process of being raised by her older sister, who demonstrates NO NUTS whatsoever in disciplining this little b1tch of girl. <--much like most of today's parents that don't discipline their rugrats and ruin my big night out w/my GF at the Fine Restaurant.

Lilo and Stitch is the most horrible children's movie, ever.
 

MichaelD

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Originally posted by: Phuz
Aww... did it give you bad dreams?

It give me indigestion after about ten whole minutes. Taking a child (my son) to the movies is traumatic enough to begin with...I dislike children. I love my son, b/c he is my son, but on the whole, I find children to be sticky, nasty, snot-dripping, money-grubbing, life-ruining, manner-lacking, puke-heaving, free time-annihiliating creatures of death. But anyway....

It was a typical Sunday with Joey (his name changed to protect me). He had been wanting to go see the Space Rat Movie (<--MichaelD's name for Lilo & Stitch) all week.

We get up. We shower (separately, you damn freaks!). I cook a nutritous, fatty bacon, sausage, egg and tortilla breakfast. We drive to Movie Emporium. I pay my $1,832 for admission and popcorn.

We sit down, the movie starts. 10 minutes later, I'm going:

WTF????? This little girl is Satan! It must get better....

45 minutes later I'm saying:

WTF??? The Space Rat is cool...I wish the movie was about him/her/it....I hate that little girl....and I see Joey is taking notes. DAMN!! I must break him again....


I hate this movie. Any GOOD parent sees the inherent evil and deception in this....this...POS.
 

flavio

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Originally posted by: MichaelD

Lilo and Stitch showcases an evil little girl w/no respect for authority at ALL, who happens to be in the process of being raised by her older sister, who demonstrates NO NUTS whatsoever in disciplining this little b1tch of girl. <--much like most of today's parents that don't discipline their rugrats and ruin my big night out w/my GF at the Fine Restaurant.

Lilo and Stitch is the most horrible children's movie, ever.


The little girl's behavior almost gets her taken away from the only family she has left. Again I don't see how this could be taken as a "good thing".
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: MichaelD
L&S is one of the WORST childrens' movies ever made, period. It shows young, easily impressionable children the WRONG way to act with friends, teachers and last but certainly not least parents or authority figures.

Putting aside the freaky rat-from-space Stitch (the concept is way cool), the little girl is a case study in every anti-social, no respect for authority, no concept of sharing or group play behaivior that you DON'T want your own children displaying.

15 minutes into this movie, I was so horrified and angry that I would've grabbed my then 6-year-old son and left, had I not paid $20 to get in and another $20 for popcorn and two sodas.

This movie stinks. ZERO on a 1-10 scale.



why i hate you.



ack.. jeez, no sense of humor at all eh? apparently you cannot see anything on a deeper level. keep your kid away from all things disney then, nothing besides sesame street could satisfy your need for sanitized kids entertainment. oh wait, bert and ernie? oh thats dicey.



as for making stitch a pg-pg13 movie to straddle the line.... well that fails. look at titan AE, or atlantis, kiddie movies trying to be what they are not.
 

Phuz

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Micheal, you can't seriously be take this literally. If you believe that the movie provides that kind of literal signifigance and emotional meaning....you must also believe video game violence/desensitization, etc. It depends on the individual. Kids are taught when they are very young the difference between real life and what they see on TV. If you had to look into this movie I'd see it teaches a good message. The little girl is taught what happens if she mistreats her sister, and what happens to her family.. etc.


 

Krugger

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Originally posted by: eviltoon
"Oh great...he found the chainsaw!".

That is one of the greatest lines I've ever heard in a movie. There I was watching the film with my three kids. They loved it, and that line had me rolling on the floor. My kids loved it, I loved it, my wife loved it. There is something kinda nice about a family all laughing and hanging out watching the same film. And for all those concerned social workers out there, my kids have yet to ask me for a chainsaw. So I think everythings just cool.


Agreed, several great lines in there. It's a favorite. One of the members has that quote in their sig even i know i've seen it. makes me laugh just seein it. Oh good, my dog found a chainsaw. i like the punchbuggy scene too.
girls love stitch. can't argue with that.
-Krugger
 

Babbles

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I just thought that the older sister was kinda hot.

In a cartoony kinda way.
 

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Originally posted by: Babbles
I just thought that the older sister was kinda hot.

In a cartoony kinda way.

I wasn't the only one who thought that... it helped that Tia Carrera did the voice...
 

0roo0roo

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most disney chicks are babes anyways:)

most womanly ones i can remember. ezmerelda from hunchback. demi moores got a nice voice:)

and er jessica rabbit.
 

tk149

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Originally posted by: MichaelD
L&S is one of the WORST childrens' movies ever made, period. It shows young, easily impressionable children the WRONG way to act with friends, teachers and last but certainly not least parents or authority figures.

Putting aside the freaky rat-from-space Stitch (the concept is way cool), the little girl is a case study in every anti-social, no respect for authority, no concept of sharing or group play behaivior that you DON'T want your own children displaying.

15 minutes into this movie, I was so horrified and angry that I would've grabbed my then 6-year-old son and left, had I not paid $20 to get in and another $20 for popcorn and two sodas.

This movie stinks. ZERO on a 1-10 scale.

Two misbehaving social rejects: one almost loses her family, the other his life. But through love and cooperation both find happiness. And a really strange family.
I agree that I was really turned off by the initial portrayals of Lilo and Stitch, but they both CHANGED. I think you missed the message.

I give it a 7 out of 10. Funny, but not great.
 

tk149

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: MichaelD
More like "Ohana means being a bratty little kid that needs an ass-whipping."

I wanted her to get taken away by the guy from the Child Agency. I would've enjoyed that.

They should make a movie just about Stitch...rate it PG-13..."Stitch takes on MIT in laser-wars" or "Stitch goes on Spring Break" :cool:

Well, there's already a Lilo & Stitch II coming, but I don't think it's what you're hoping for.

Let's finish the trilogy with "Lilo & Stitch III - Stitch Goes Apesh!t" - a ninety-minute blast-fest of Stitch doing what he was designed to do - break stuff. You gotta admit, the first few minutes where the little blue ah heck broke out of a containment cell, fended off a half-dozen guards, shut down a starship, hijacked a police cruiser with a lasergun ... that had some serious potential. :D

- M4H

LOL! :D Yeah, I would have liked to see Stitch go Medieval on the Galactic Federation's collective butt.

 

waggy

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Actually I feel most Disney movies are not suitable for young children.

While I loved Lilo and stitch (have the dvd!) it should not been targeted at kids under 10.

Lilo and stitch is one of my favorite movies. The ?oh good my dog found the chainsaw? always cracks me up oh and when they are giving the gun back and forth about to blow up heh.

I am a huge fan of cartoons. Toy story and shrek are probably my two favorite movies I have seen. But I think most of these are not appriate for young kids.
 

amnesiac

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Originally posted by: waggy
Actually I feel most Disney movies are not suitable for young children.

While I loved Lilo and stitch (have the dvd!) it should not been targeted at kids under 10.

Lilo and stitch is one of my favorite movies. The ?oh good my dog found the chainsaw? always cracks me up oh and when they are giving the gun back and forth about to blow up heh.

I am a huge fan of cartoons. Toy story and shrek are probably my two favorite movies I have seen. But I think most of these are not appriate for young kids.

This statement boggles my mind.

First, movies are rated by a committee composed of parents who have no ties to the movie industry. They represent the parents of all kids who go see movies, and IMO are pretty damn strict.

It's become apparent that more and more conservative views are applied to these ratings; movies that would have gotten a "G" 10-15-20 years ago are getting PGs, etc.

And now you say that these "kid movies" are not appropriate for children. WTF do you want to do, have them watch PBS until they're 19? Or how about sitting in front of the tube watching ambiguously homosexual humanoid creatures prance around?