Just watched a SJW game the system

Exterous

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Our company had a pretty terrible employee. He had more customer complaints than the rest of his team combined despite handling 30% fewer incidents. He had an attendance and punctuality problem. He was abrasive and had a short temper. No one that I interact with frequently liked working with him. He was on step 2.5 of the 3 step 'performance improvement' (aka: termination) process. He would file formal complaints for the smallest\oddest perceived slights. In less than a year he lodged at least 15 complaints to management and 3 to HR that I know of. The total number of complaints by the rest of the 350 staff: 0. This was one of his examples:

He, a supervisor of a different department and the supervisor's temp were working on a project. They were joking around. He said "Don't listen to the supervisor. He's dumb."

The supervisor responded "Dumb enough to get the supervisor position"

This resulted in a complaint sent to his manager and the supervisor's manager because the supervisor "called him poor" by making reference to "the class disparity between worker and supervisor"
So completely ignoring the discussion of the appropriateness of insulting someone's intelligence and undermining their authority with their temp the pay disparity is less than $10,000 a year...

So how did he game the system? We work with a lot of Universities and to maintain a 'Preferred Vendor' status we participate in the grievance reporting structure a lot of them require for in order to be preferred.

So since he was weeks away from being fired he found a job at a university and he thought it would be appropriate to mention that he felt he was being discriminated against (he is a minority) and might have to file grievances with the Universities we work with. Now his terribleness is well documented but would basically have to be proved to everyone else. He was already taking up a ton of HR, managerial and director time and this would tie up a lot of people for months (Universities do not move quickly) and could cause financial harm to the company.

This is, by far, the most inclusive and diverse employer I have ever worked and included a number of people of the same minority. (I mean we have a number of women working in IT). Its tough to explain on the internet but having seen who he is and being friends with other people of the same minority in the company (which includes his manager and none of who like him) I am positive he is confusing discrimination with results of poor workethic\personality. Despite this I won't call this blackmail as I have no doubt that he felt that he was entitled to something from the company.

Despite documentation that would have gotten him canned much faster at most companies he is leaving this week but getting benefits until the end of the year and 2 weeks of pay (despite working less than a year). This was negotiated down from 5 weeks of pay he wanted. More concerning to me is that I fear this validates his views and he is going back to school as a way to help further his 'fight against injustice' (his words)

So I get that it makes financial sense but it still grates on me that such a terrible employee expected and actually got those concessions. I don't believe in giving in like that but I am stubborn to a fault and it wasn't my decision to make anyway

TL: DR
-Employee was terrible and was offended by everything
-Employee was about to be fired
-Employee pulled and believed in the discrimination card
-Employee put in 2 weeks notice but still got severance package

TL: DR:TL: DR
-Shit sucks
 

Rage187

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welcome to the wonderful world of entitlements. Being anything other than a white male is the equivalent of having a Draw 4 card in Uno.
 
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I wonder what minority he is.... Make sure you stay PC and never mention that tidbit of information. It might just correlate with statistics ;)
 

dank69

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That is a pretty basic severance package. I wouldn't count that as a "win" for him. You can't just fire people these days for some reason. I'm sure the company views this outcome as a win. My company did a similar thing for an employee that would have been shit-canned without remorse a few decades ago.

Regardless, the company would have treated a white loser in the same manner. Less hassle to lay people off than fire them, no matter the color.
 

Texashiker

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Somehow liberals will defend his actions.

I am waiting for one of the moderate to ultra liberal members to poke their head in and spout off something.
 

Exterous

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You can't just fire people these days for some reason.

Michigan is an 'At will' state so unless it was for one of the small handfull of protected reasons the company can legally fire you for some reason. The performance review process is something the company chooses to do but doesn't have to

Regardless, the company would have treated a white loser in the same manner. Less hassle to lay people off than fire them, no matter the color.

He wasn't laid off - he put in his 2 weeks and quit. Not sure there are too many places that give you a severance package if you decide to leave voluntarily. Even if there are I can assure you that, at this company (and the last 3 I've worked at), if I put in my two weeks today that I would not get an additional 2 weeks of pay and benefits until January 1st. In fact there was someone of the same minority that put in their two weeks early this year but got no severance package.

But he gets special treatment because he felt he deserved it
 

dank69

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Michigan is an 'At will' state so unless it was for one of the small handfull of protected reasons the company can legally fire you for some reason. The performance review process is something the company chooses to do but doesn't have to



He wasn't laid off - he put in his 2 weeks and quit. Not sure there are too many places that give you a severance package if you decide to leave voluntarily. Even if there are I can assure you that, at this company (and the last 3 I've worked at), if I put in my two weeks today that I would not get an additional 2 weeks of pay and benefits until January 1st. In fact there was someone of the same minority that put in their two weeks early this year but got no severance package.

But he gets special treatment because he felt he deserved it
He got special treatment because he made noise. I'm not saying it is right. It sucks, but the company probably views this as a cheaper option than getting dragged into court.
 

clamum

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People who continually play the victim like that loser are what's wrong with America.
 

Rakehellion

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He got special treatment because he made noise. I'm not saying it is right. It sucks, but the company probably views this as a cheaper option than getting dragged into court.

Exactly. And now all the oppressed white males are going to chime in about how minorities and women have it so easy.
 

SP33Demon

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We had an old indian woman try something similar. She was worthless, always late and leaving early. Did a horrible job, pissed everyone off. She tweaked her ankle walking to work one day and swore she hurt it bad enough to not work for 6 months. While off, she tried to get worker's comp and the company told her to fuck off. After burning through all of her leave and forging enough doctor's notes so she could telework full time while she "healed", she realized the company wasn't going to give her what she wanted so she finally quit. She threatened to sue for her worker's comp, and when the company didn't bite again she finally let it go.

What you have to understand is that there are horrible leaches in this world who will play the victim card as much as they can. What these oxygen thieves don't realize is that they are only hurting themselves by pissing everyone else off. In this world, you need friends to make it anywhere - you cannot be an island. Rest assured that these spergs will never be in a managerial position, ever.
 

TwiceOver

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Exactly. And now all the oppressed white males are going to chime in about how minorities and women have it so easy.

Women seriously don't have it easy. They are ALWAYS being told what to do with their lives. Like making sure more women are interested in STEM careers whether they like it or not.

Look, removing barriers is great, but not if the road is rigged to push certain people in a certain direction.
 

notposting

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That's not really SJW - just worthless douchebag using whatever he has to help himself. He should fit right in at school. :p
 

BoberFett

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That's not really SJW - just worthless douchebag using whatever he has to help himself. He should fit right in at school. :p

He's not a SJW, he is now a "normal" and everyone else are all assholes.

Actually, the comment about class disparity means that he IS in fact an SJW. Ignore the words "social justice" in the label SJW, because SJWs have no interest in actual social justice. What they are interested in is personal attention and special privileges, and they're going to whine and cry and use every dirty trick in the book to get their way.

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SP33Demon

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Women seriously don't have it easy. They are ALWAYS being told what to do with their lives. Like making sure more women are interested in STEM careers whether they like it or not.

Look, removing barriers is great, but not if the road is rigged to push certain people in a certain direction.
Agree, most women want to stay at home and raise kids, not do math in a science lab. We are pushing them against what they evolved to do. It's not a coincidence that recent brain studies show different physiological differences in brain wiring, and that boys/girls are equal at math proficiency until puberty - when men really take off (over women) in mathematical and spatial reasoning (this was adjusted for variables across multiple cultures btw). Equalists would love to claim otherwise, but science says otherwise.
 

OverVolt

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We had an old indian woman try something similar. She was worthless, always late and leaving early. Did a horrible job, pissed everyone off. She tweaked her ankle walking to work one day and swore she hurt it bad enough to not work for 6 months. While off, she tried to get worker's comp and the company told her to fuck off. After burning through all of her leave and forging enough doctor's notes so she could telework full time while she "healed", she realized the company wasn't going to give her what she wanted so she finally quit. She threatened to sue for her worker's comp, and when the company didn't bite again she finally let it go.

What you have to understand is that there are horrible leaches in this world who will play the victim card as much as they can. What these oxygen thieves don't realize is that they are only hurting themselves by pissing everyone else off. In this world, you need friends to make it anywhere - you cannot be an island. Rest assured that these spergs will never be in a managerial position, ever.

To be fair I bet she is GREAT at job interviews.
 

OverVolt

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Women seriously don't have it easy. They are ALWAYS being told what to do with their lives. Like making sure more women are interested in STEM careers whether they like it or not.

Look, removing barriers is great, but not if the road is rigged to push certain people in a certain direction.

I had an old anatomy professor tell the story of how she became a nurse just to get the biology education (in the 60's) and then she worked in a histology lab instead and tried to stay in academia as much as possible. Once women were more accepted in education she got her masters/phd and now teaches.

Just thought it was interesting. People forget how much has changed.