Just traded a 7th gen i5 w/ 1060 laptop for a Ryzen 2 system, big mistake with ryzen 3xxx coming?

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I've been out of the loop for a while since I left the semiconductor industry. I though the Ryzen 2xxx would be current for a bit until I got a google alert 30 minutes after making the deal about the new Ryzen CPUs. I traded a Dell 7577 w/1060 6gb for the desktop in sig.

Am I SOL on future proofing?
 

Indus

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No the beauty of AMD AM4 socket is you can drop in future processors into the socket for the most part. I don't know if you'll be able to drop in 12/16 cores into older motherboards but 8 cores shouldn't be a problem.

And yes the 2000 series is about a year old now.. the 3000 series should be coming out soon.
 

Indus

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Ok the 3rd gen 3000 series will be released July 7th, so little over a month from now.
 

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depends what motherboard and case you received. DDR4 timings? but looks OK i guess.
 

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Heck I just built a 2700 / X470 system knowing full well that Ryzen 3rd gen was coming soon. $380 for a relatively nice motherboard + CPU + tax at microcenter got me. I know the socket will be future proof, but am hoping that I'll be able to run a 3900X on it. If not, 3800X will be in my future. That being said, I'm pretty sure that I'll take a minimal loss on the 2700 (paid $200). I'm sure it'll still have some value when the new chips / boards come out. I also won't upgrade on release day... I want to see plenty of reviews first!
 
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depends what motherboard and case you received. DDR4 timings? but looks OK i guess.
NZXT - S340 ATX Mid Tower Case in white
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 CL16
ASRock X370 PRO4 AM4 AMD Promontory X370 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

The only thing I added to the build was a 3TB HGST HDD. Looks like the ram is actually running at 3200mhz 16-16-16-36-52-1T according to CPU-Z. So the X370 board might not like the super high ram speeds. It did come with a closed loop CPU watercooler that looks specific to the case.

I mostly made the trade since I process so many photos in lightroom after photographing an event that the extra cores and threads is so much time saved.
 

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NZXT - S340 ATX Mid Tower Case in white
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 CL16
ASRock X370 PRO4 AM4 AMD Promontory X370 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

The only thing I added to the build was a 3TB HGST HDD. Looks like the ram is actually running at 3200mhz 16-16-16-36-52-1T according to CPU-Z. So the X370 board might not like the super high ram speeds. It did come with a closed loop CPU watercooler that looks specific to the case.

I mostly made the trade since I process so many photos in lightroom after photographing an event that the extra cores and threads is so much time saved.
Those are good timings and motherboard is ok I guess. 3200@16 16 16 is perfect
 

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As others have pointed out, you should be able to upgrade the CPU (though I don't think you'd need to immediately) and you'll probably get more mileage out of a GPU upgrade anyway if you're concerned about gaming performance.

A 2700 is more than good enough as far as CPUs go unless you have some really specific needs.
 

dark zero

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X370 is compatible with the 3K series if it gets a BIOS update, so no biggie
 
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an X470 could arguably be nicer than the 370, but the real issue is that it doesn't matter between the two, if your goal is to take complete advantage of the high end Zen2--you would likely want to upgrade a 470, as well.

But you're good for a couple of years. Maybe just wait until Zen2+ or Zen3 (I think they just go to full numbers now?) or even Zen4 before thinking about it.

Well, I will say that you probably aren't going to want to try the 12+ core chips that come out in the future on that board. I'd consider myself limited to the 8/16 offerings on that board, at which point you're still getting better clocks and performance...but you aren't getting all the extra PCI lanes (if that is a concern).

Not enough is actually known about these new chips yet, especially power-wise, so there is no definitive advice right now.
 

ondma

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I've been out of the loop for a while since I left the semiconductor industry. I though the Ryzen 2xxx would be current for a bit until I got a google alert 30 minutes after making the deal about the new Ryzen CPUs. I traded a Dell 7577 w/1060 6gb for the desktop in sig.

Am I SOL on future proofing?
First thing to do is see if you can overclock that cpu. Stock clocks are pretty low for the 2700 non-x. Biggest upgrade for gaming would be a more powerful gpu though. RX590 is only mid/lower-mid range now.
 
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I mostly made the trade since I process so many photos in lightroom after photographing an event that the extra cores and threads is so much time saved.
I had thought that I had read someone comment that Adobe Lightroom benefits more from faster cores, than more cores. IOW, Intel might have been a better choice for Lightroom, specifically.

Otherwise, welcome to the Ryzen club!

I just built an R7 2700 rig last month, 240mm AIO WC, DDR4-3600 GSkill RGB RAM, 2x 1TB Intel 660p M.2 NVMe SSDs in RAID-0, Asus ROG STRIX B450-F ATX mobo. Runs really sweet. Or at least, it did, until I blew a breaker with all of my PCs + my A/C. My two main rigs and my NAS units are all on battery backups, but the one the 2700 was plugged into, is old and worn out, and when the power went off, it went off too. Need to get another pure sine APC unit like my other ones.

Edit: Oh yeah, I manually OCed my R7 2700 to 4.0Ghz all-core. They have a lot of performance under the hood, but not at default settings, especially not the 2700, you really, really, need to do a manual OC on those CPUs in particular, IMHO, to wring maximum performance out of them. Then they are competitive performance-wise with a 2700X.
 
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Or at least, it did, until I blew a breaker with all of my PCs + my A/C. My two main rigs and my NAS units are all on battery backups, but the one the 2700 was plugged into, is old and worn out, and when the power went off, it went off too.
A circuit breaker tripping shouldn't destroy a computer.
 

Topweasel

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A circuit breaker tripping shouldn't destroy a computer.
Dramatic power loss (and not a power surge or something like that) has kill quite a few PSU's in systems I have worked on.
 
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No, the R7 2700 PC is fine, it's the battery back-up that it's plugged into (an old CyberPower, it's plugged into the AC-only outlet, pretty sure, because the PC's power usage exceeds the wattage capacity of the battery back-up section) that's old and decrepit.
 

epsilon84

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Well, a 2700X would be a heck of an upgrade compared to a laptop i5, you're getting double the cores and 4 times the threads, not to mention higher clockspeeds.

That won't change when the new Ryzen chips hit. Could you have waited a bit longer? Sure, but that's tech for you, there's always something better around the corner. The good news is the next gen Ryzen CPUs should be a drop in upgrade (probably needs a BIOS update) so you can always upgrade if you want to be on the cutting edge :)
 
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No, the R7 2700 PC is fine, it's the battery back-up that it's plugged into (an old CyberPower, it's plugged into the AC-only outlet, pretty sure, because the PC's power usage exceeds the wattage capacity of the battery back-up section) that's old and decrepit.
Ah, I must have misread your post.
 


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