Just saw United 93...

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Kadarin

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Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
I just entered the thread "Just saw United 93..."

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I just read this post by AnonymouseUser about entering the thread about just seeing United 93...
 

FelixDeCat

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I saw it too. I rented the DVD on 911.

Anyone who doesnt get a lump in their throat is not human. This movie was very sad.
 

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I cheered and clapped in the theater when Todd Beamer & Company beat up the Islamic-Fascist-Terrorist with a fire hydrant. I then left the theater really pissed off.
 

FelixDeCat

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Originally posted by: LoKe
:thumbsdown:/10. The terrorists just sat there as the passengers conspired. Yeah, that seems realistic.

They didnt just sit there. The last two in the cockpit didnt want to lose control of the plane so they stayed there until the end.

If the passengers had caught a few more breaks like maybe getting to it a bit earlier if at all possible I think they might have had a chance. It was an extreme longshot, but thats what made it all the more sad for me.
 
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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: LoKe
:thumbsdown:/10. The terrorists just sat there as the passengers conspired. Yeah, that seems realistic.

They didnt just sit there. The last two in the cockpit didnt want to lose control of the plane so they stayed there until the end.

If the passengers had caught a few more breaks like maybe getting to it a bit earlier if at all possible I think they might have had a chance. It was an extreme longshot, but thats what made it all the more sad for me.

But wasn't there only one guy controlling the plane, the other was just standing there? Couldn't the two who were not piloting just break up the passengers?
 

FelixDeCat

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Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: LoKe
:thumbsdown:/10. The terrorists just sat there as the passengers conspired. Yeah, that seems realistic.

They didnt just sit there. The last two in the cockpit didnt want to lose control of the plane so they stayed there until the end.

If the passengers had caught a few more breaks like maybe getting to it a bit earlier if at all possible I think they might have had a chance. It was an extreme longshot, but thats what made it all the more sad for me.

But wasn't there only one guy controlling the plane, the other was just standing there? Couldn't the two who were not piloting just break up the passengers?

Um...yeah...two guys against twenty...thatll work...not! Two in the cockpit, two holding back passengers. The terrorists put up a struggle but it wasnt enough.
 

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Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: LoKe
:thumbsdown:/10. The terrorists just sat there as the passengers conspired. Yeah, that seems realistic.

They didnt just sit there. The last two in the cockpit didnt want to lose control of the plane so they stayed there until the end.

If the passengers had caught a few more breaks like maybe getting to it a bit earlier if at all possible I think they might have had a chance. It was an extreme longshot, but thats what made it all the more sad for me.

But wasn't there only one guy controlling the plane, the other was just standing there? Couldn't the two who were not piloting just break up the passengers?

Hello....adrenaline going on both sides....and numbers on the side of the passengers!

Adrenalines makes u do crazy things......i had a patient code blue on me today he was bigger than me actually but i literally picked him up on my own and literally tossed him in bed today(he collapsed coming out of the bathroom)...i imagine it was the same sort of thing for the passengers.

Great movie, never had a movie make me feel that way before....
 

Syringer

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Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: LoKe
:thumbsdown:/10. The terrorists just sat there as the passengers conspired. Yeah, that seems realistic.

They didnt just sit there. The last two in the cockpit didnt want to lose control of the plane so they stayed there until the end.

If the passengers had caught a few more breaks like maybe getting to it a bit earlier if at all possible I think they might have had a chance. It was an extreme longshot, but thats what made it all the more sad for me.

But wasn't there only one guy controlling the plane, the other was just standing there? Couldn't the two who were not piloting just break up the passengers?

Yeah they definitely didn't want the passengers hurting them..
 
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I believe the terrorists having a bomb would ensure some control.

"Stop talking, get off the phone, move away from each other, put down the tea kettle, or I'll blow up the plane."
 

FelixDeCat

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Originally posted by: LoKe
I believe the terrorists having a bomb would ensure some control.

"Stop talking, get off the phone, move away from each other, put down the tea kettle, or I'll blow up the plane."

The passengers werent stupid. They surmised the bomb wasnt real because of contact they had with people on the ground who reported planes being crashed into targets. They knew bomb or no bomb they were going to die anyway by crashing into something not held as hostages and they decided to act and God bless them for it.
 

TraumaRN

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Originally posted by: LoKe
I believe the terrorists having a bomb would ensure some control.

"Stop talking, get off the phone, move away from each other, put down the tea kettle, or I'll blow up the plane."

You are missing the point LoKe. At that point I think they(the passengers) realized they were fvcked either way. If you had a choice between, well, death, and death. I'd do whatever I could to survive. It was and still is human survival instinct. Personally I'd take the chance too, bomb or otherwise.
 
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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: LoKe
I believe the terrorists having a bomb would ensure some control.

"Stop talking, get off the phone, move away from each other, put down the tea kettle, or I'll blow up the plane."

The passengers werent stupid. They surmised the bomb wasnt real because of contact they had with people on the ground who reported planes being crashed into targets. They knew bomb or no bomb they were going to die anyway by crashing into something not held as hostages and they decided to act and God bless them for it.

Then how has any other hijacking ever worked? Obviously the end result is for them to die, in one way or another, so why have they never attempted to do anything about it?
 

datalink7

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Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: LoKe
I believe the terrorists having a bomb would ensure some control.

"Stop talking, get off the phone, move away from each other, put down the tea kettle, or I'll blow up the plane."

The passengers werent stupid. They surmised the bomb wasnt real because of contact they had with people on the ground who reported planes being crashed into targets. They knew bomb or no bomb they were going to die anyway by crashing into something not held as hostages and they decided to act and God bless them for it.

Then how has any other hijacking ever worked? Obviously the end result is for them to die, in one way or another, so why have they never attempted to do anything about it?

Because before a hijacking ment landing somewhere and the hijackers would trade the peoples lives for money.
 

FelixDeCat

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Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: LoKe
I believe the terrorists having a bomb would ensure some control.

"Stop talking, get off the phone, move away from each other, put down the tea kettle, or I'll blow up the plane."

The passengers werent stupid. They surmised the bomb wasnt real because of contact they had with people on the ground who reported planes being crashed into targets. They knew bomb or no bomb they were going to die anyway by crashing into something not held as hostages and they decided to act and God bless them for it.

Then how has any other hijacking ever worked? Obviously the end result is for them to die, in one way or another, so why have they never attempted to do anything about it?


I dont know. I just know this group of passengers decided to act, the others didnt. Anything else?

 
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Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: LoKe
I believe the terrorists having a bomb would ensure some control.

"Stop talking, get off the phone, move away from each other, put down the tea kettle, or I'll blow up the plane."

The passengers werent stupid. They surmised the bomb wasnt real because of contact they had with people on the ground who reported planes being crashed into targets. They knew bomb or no bomb they were going to die anyway by crashing into something not held as hostages and they decided to act and God bless them for it.

Then how has any other hijacking ever worked? Obviously the end result is for them to die, in one way or another, so why have they never attempted to do anything about it?

Because before a hijacking ment landing somewhere and the hijackers would trade the peoples lives for money.

But that kind of confuses me. First of all, the passengers didn't know about them crashing planes into the building before they got a hold of their families and whatnot. So, had the terrorists simply stopped them from doing so, they wouldn't have known the plan, and would have no reason to do what they did.
 

KLin

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Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: LoKe
I believe the terrorists having a bomb would ensure some control.

"Stop talking, get off the phone, move away from each other, put down the tea kettle, or I'll blow up the plane."

The passengers werent stupid. They surmised the bomb wasnt real because of contact they had with people on the ground who reported planes being crashed into targets. They knew bomb or no bomb they were going to die anyway by crashing into something not held as hostages and they decided to act and God bless them for it.

Then how has any other hijacking ever worked? Obviously the end result is for them to die, in one way or another, so why have they never attempted to do anything about it?

Because before a hijacking ment landing somewhere and the hijackers would trade the peoples lives for money.


That's a good point. If the passengers learned that other planes were used as weapons, they probably realized their lives weren't being held for ransom.
 

datalink7

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Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: LoKe
I believe the terrorists having a bomb would ensure some control.

"Stop talking, get off the phone, move away from each other, put down the tea kettle, or I'll blow up the plane."

The passengers werent stupid. They surmised the bomb wasnt real because of contact they had with people on the ground who reported planes being crashed into targets. They knew bomb or no bomb they were going to die anyway by crashing into something not held as hostages and they decided to act and God bless them for it.

Then how has any other hijacking ever worked? Obviously the end result is for them to die, in one way or another, so why have they never attempted to do anything about it?

Because before a hijacking ment landing somewhere and the hijackers would trade the peoples lives for money.

But that kind of confuses me. First of all, the passengers didn't know about them crashing planes into the building before they got a hold of their families and whatnot. So, had the terrorists simply stopped them from doing so, they wouldn't have known the plan, and would have no reason to do what they did.

And how, exactly, were they going to stop them when the first people made phone calls hiding behind the seats? There weren't that many terrorists on the plane.
 

TraumaRN

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Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: LoKe
I believe the terrorists having a bomb would ensure some control.

"Stop talking, get off the phone, move away from each other, put down the tea kettle, or I'll blow up the plane."

The passengers werent stupid. They surmised the bomb wasnt real because of contact they had with people on the ground who reported planes being crashed into targets. They knew bomb or no bomb they were going to die anyway by crashing into something not held as hostages and they decided to act and God bless them for it.

Then how has any other hijacking ever worked? Obviously the end result is for them to die, in one way or another, so why have they never attempted to do anything about it?

Because before a hijacking ment landing somewhere and the hijackers would trade the peoples lives for money.

But that kind of confuses me. First of all, the passengers didn't know about them crashing planes into the building before they got a hold of their families and whatnot. So, had the terrorists simply stopped them from doing so, they wouldn't have known the plan, and would have no reason to do what they did.

And how, exactly, were they going to stop them when the first people made phone calls hiding behind the seats? There weren't that many terrorists on the plane.

And just think that approaching 40 scared people as a terrorist is not a good idea...as a terrorist you'd have no idea what they were thinking or what they might do. Trying to stop a passenger from making a phone call only serves to make yourself as a terrorist very vunerable.
 
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Originally posted by: datalink7
And how, exactly, were they going to stop them when the first people made phone calls hiding behind the seats? There weren't that many terrorists on the plane.

Maybe I'm giving terrorists a little too much credit, but I'd like to think that they would be a little smarter than to let a bunch of people keep their cellphones, or their credit cards in order to use the on-flight phones. I mean, they would have planned something like this almost to perfection.

I think the main reason why I'm arguing is because I don't exactly know what happened on that flight. I remember the news saying something about a phone call, but I don't know what it was about. Perhaps if someone filled me in, it would make a little more sense to me.