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Wow, that "artwork" looks like someone gave some barn swallows some LSD and let them make a nest, I guess it's all in the eye of the beholder but that looks like a couple of 5yr old's could make that.

I always hear this brought up when discussing certain artists (mainly Pollock, but Warhol and Picasso to a certain extent as well), and I have to think, "if you think this stuff is so easy and you KNOW it's selling for hundreds of millions of dollars, why aren't you doing it yourself?" You're either the laziest person on Earth or you realize that this stuff isn't as simple as "throw paint at canvas and watch money roll in."

And for what it's worth, I agree with you. I was at the Getty last weekend and got to see a Jackson Pollock piece in person for the first time. And all I could think was "what the fuck is this shit?" I don't get the appeal at all; it holds absolutely no aesthetic quality for me. But if it was really so easy a child could do it, why don't I just go get some paints and start splashing them about right now? Because I know that would never sell in a million years. There's something about these pieces that makes them desirable, and even though I can't see it for the life of me, I know that's the difference between a child's scribbles and a work of art.

I'm guessing it's the LSD.
 

Ns1

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regarding this ART tangent:

Went to the Guggenheim a few years back and they were exhibiting the work of this fellow (Lee Ufan). My WTF increased 100x.

A sample:

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JamesV

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Anything that says "Organic" on it is highly overpriced nonsense. I can't count the number of times I've read articles on how regular everyday vegetables and fruits are just as good for you, and even sometimes canned veg/fruit is better than organic.

I will buy all my corn, tomatoes, and other vegetables at roadside stands when they start popping up mid-late summer though. The prices are usually on par with regular vegetables found in a grocery store, and I'd rather buy from a farmer.
 

HamburgerBoy

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I always hear this brought up when discussing certain artists (mainly Pollock, but Warhol and Picasso to a certain extent as well), and I have to think, "if you think this stuff is so easy and you KNOW it's selling for hundreds of millions of dollars, why aren't you doing it yourself?" You're either the laziest person on Earth or you realize that this stuff isn't as simple as "throw paint at canvas and watch money roll in."

And for what it's worth, I agree with you. I was at the Getty last weekend and got to see a Jackson Pollock piece in person for the first time. And all I could think was "what the fuck is this shit?" I don't get the appeal at all; it holds absolutely no aesthetic quality for me. But if it was really so easy a child could do it, why don't I just go get some paints and start splashing them about right now? Because I know that would never sell in a million years. There's something about these pieces that makes them desirable, and even though I can't see it for the life of me, I know that's the difference between a child's scribbles and a work of art.

I'm guessing it's the LSD.

The value of art is subjective and can change on a whim. I'm not saying that anyone could do it, but in many cases it's more about the artist and all the invested stock in their works than the art itself. A person can be a lauded poet but lose reputation after he dies and people discover he was a racist. A person can write stories that no one cares about until they discover that he was a tormented nutcase. An artist used to selling his art for thousands upon thousands can barely manage $20 when he gets someone to sell them by proxy. Once a person is established as a great artist, the collectors and hipsters can't afford to lose their investment in their works.
 

MongGrel

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Pretty much, was kinda like the little joke in "Contraband" where they had a stolen Pollock in the van everyone thought was a trap more or less.
 

BUTCH1

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I always hear this brought up when discussing certain artists (mainly Pollock, but Warhol and Picasso to a certain extent as well), and I have to think, "if you think this stuff is so easy and you KNOW it's selling for hundreds of millions of dollars, why aren't you doing it yourself?" You're either the laziest person on Earth or you realize that this stuff isn't as simple as "throw paint at canvas and watch money roll in."

And for what it's worth, I agree with you. I was at the Getty last weekend and got to see a Jackson Pollock piece in person for the first time. And all I could think was "what the fuck is this shit?" I don't get the appeal at all; it holds absolutely no aesthetic quality for me. But if it was really so easy a child could do it, why don't I just go get some paints and start splashing them about right now? Because I know that would never sell in a million years. There's something about these pieces that makes them desirable, and even though I can't see it for the life of me, I know that's the difference between a child's scribbles and a work of art.

I'm guessing it's the LSD.

LOL, now a Picasso I can understand, I always loved "Starry night", yes it's an impressionist piece but so beautifully done, here are a few more of his and if they ever trade hands it would be in the untold millions but somehow he connects in his own way, unlike the "bird's nest" that fetched $140mil that looks like, well, nothing IMHO., anyway,..
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Red Squirrel

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I usually only buy organic stuff for juicing, but yeah it's crazy expensive. You'd think it would be cheaper, don't all the chemicals they use cost money, not to mention having to pay someone to apply them? Then all the GMO stuff, that requires scientists and what not. You'd think growing organic would be the cheapest way.

I've been pondering on making an indoor garden, I'd just have to figure out if the cost of running the grow lights would be worth while. Our grow season here is maybe like a month so it's not even worth doing outside.
 

HamburgerBoy

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I usually only buy organic stuff for juicing, but yeah it's crazy expensive. You'd think it would be cheaper, don't all the chemicals they use cost money, not to mention having to pay someone to apply them? Then all the GMO stuff, that requires scientists and what not. You'd think growing organic would be the cheapest way.

I've been pondering on making an indoor garden, I'd just have to figure out if the cost of running the grow lights would be worth while. Our grow season here is maybe like a month so it's not even worth doing outside.

Yeah, and that's not even getting into the obvious cost-savings in using gloves and a hoe vs a big expensive tractor that guzzles gasoline. I don't even know why technology exists.
 

norseamd

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I usually only buy organic stuff for juicing, but yeah it's crazy expensive. You'd think it would be cheaper, don't all the chemicals they use cost money, not to mention having to pay someone to apply them? Then all the GMO stuff, that requires scientists and what not. You'd think growing organic would be the cheapest way. I've been pondering on making an indoor garden, I'd just have to figure out if the cost of running the grow lights would be worth while. Our grow season here is maybe like a month so it's not even worth doing outside.

do you know how much work it is to keep a plant disease free vs just spraying some shit on it
 

Matthiasa

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I always hear this brought up when discussing certain artists (mainly Pollock, but Warhol and Picasso to a certain extent as well), and I have to think, "if you think this stuff is so easy and you KNOW it's selling for hundreds of millions of dollars, why aren't you doing it yourself?" You're either the laziest person on Earth or you realize that this stuff isn't as simple as "throw paint at canvas and watch money roll in."

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That would be because he has the wrong name.
Any normal person replicating that style would be left with pieces worth almost nothing due to not having the correct name, that and still being alive.

As already mentioned there has been a few well known artists doing so recently, basically proving the point.
 
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ViRGE

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Well there's your problem. Organic Italian butter lettuce? Seriously? Buy real lettuce. I just picked up a head of iceberg for .99 and a package of 3 heads of Romaine for $2.
Bingo. Organic produce almost always carries an absurd price tag.:eek: