Just received K7T266 Pro with 1.4 Ghz & 256 MB - I hope my power supply can handle this board so I can start SETI with it!

IsOs

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RC5 or SETI?

If both are run together at the same time, what kind of output can be expected from this setup?



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I don't have an AMD approved power supply yet. My current empty generic mid tower case only have a 300 watt Leadman power supply:eek:

Should I even attempt or should I play it safe and wait till an AMD approved power supply arrived.
 

cnhoff

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Never run both at the same time, if you are lucky, one gets full cpu usage, but most certainly you will lose power, because the system has to distribute cpu power to both clients.

From what I have heard, Xeons do especially well running Seti@Home, and TBirds are good at both, with a small preference for RC5.
I run Seti@Home on a TBird@1500 and get Wu times of about 4:45, which is really good in comparison to other cpus. I have also tested RC5 once and I got about 5.3 MKeys, which is also top of the bunch.

So I guess TBirds just rule!
 

Mobster

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Just check with what project you have the most affiliation with.

They major drawback of seti is (I think) the heavy use of your sys mem...

Just my 2%
 

lane42

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IsOs, thats the great thing with DDR and seti, DDR has more Bandwith then a SDRAM setup giving better wu times.
Yours should do 4.5 - 4.8 wu times.
 

Smoke

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I use SetiDriver where you can set the Seti Client Priority to LOW. In that mode you will not notice any decline of your computer's speed. The Seti Client just gives up whenever you run anything else on your computer.

We'd love to have you on the Seti TeamAnandTech. We are in a tough battle with the Team Seti@Netherlands and need some help very badly.:(

We would like to help you with your setup if you think you may need any assistance.

I'm thinking about building a new PC exactly like yours...may I ask what MB you are using?
 

AppleTalking

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TBirds are good at just about every distributed computing project out there, thanks to high performance integer and floating point units. The large L1 cache (64K) and the non-redundant full-speed L2 (256K) don't hurt either. Just run whichever project you want. Ask yourself: do I want to crack codes (RC5 or OGR), search for aliens (SETI), help solve math problems (ECCp-109), do cancer research (UD), or do research on the human genome (genome@home) or protein folding (protein@home)?

Good luck!
Nick
 

IsOs

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Thanks for the replies. I haven't decided which motherboard to take (Biostar M&amp;MIA, Epox EP-8K7A, or MSI MS-6380)

Do I have to get a special power supply? Which case &amp; power supply is required for this setup? I currently have 300 watts Powmax in a Generic ATX case.

I'm also considering the dual Athlon motherboard but don't really have a good source for it. The current Tyan 760MP motherboard packed too much that it seems scary to use (on board controllers, LAN &amp; video)
 

kmmatney

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Your current ATX case should be fine, as long as it has an extra exhaust fan. Some generic ATX cases don't have a mounting place for an extra fan. If so, then I would suggest you get a slot fan. The main reason for an extra exhaust fan is that I've seen some power supplies run a little warm with fast T-birds. The extra fan gets rid of this heat.

Whatever project you choose would be a great help. Your one machine is better than about 6 old machines I have in a &quot;crack-rack&quot; type setup! I persoanlly like RC5, OGR, and the ECCp109 challenges. RC5 and ECCp109 have monetary awards for the winner, and the winning team.
 

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IsOs,
I have the Epox EP-8K7A and I love it.
It is stable and very easy to overclock.
You must have a very good power supply if you have lots of toys, fans etc...
I have an Antec 400W and I wish that I had gotten even better.
I have only been able to get my 1.333 up to 1.493
I'm thinking of adding a second PSU to run my fans and anything else that does not have to go through the mother board.
It seems that these CPUs overclock like crazy if you have a better power supply.
 

DarkMajiq

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SETI (I imagine about 4 hours / WU) and RC5 (about 4.7MKeys/sec) will both run fast on that machine. Relatively though, Athlons do better at RC5 than SETI.
 

IsOs

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Thanks for the additional info. I haven't seen any other dual Athlon except from Tyan. I guess other boards are not yet out.
 

Assimilator1

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Darkmajiq
Relatively though, Athlons do better at RC5 than SETI

Ah but with DDR RAM the scales tip a little more towards SETI:)

Mobster
SETI uses about 16Mb of RAM ,if you have at least 128Mb then you have nothing to worry about:).
 

IsOs

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I've decided not to go dual for now. Maybe later when there are more motherboard choices. Everyone I tried ordering kept telling me either the motherboard is on back order or the power supply I wanted is on back order.

I've order 512 MB DDR for that 1.4 Athlon. I hope my Radeon 64MB DDR Vivo card will not have a problem with the chipsets. What is the usual temp of a non-overclock 1.4GHz Athlon running SETI? Should I use Windows 98 SE or Windows ME?

The good news for TA is that tomorrow I'll gain at least 310 MHz for RC5 and perhaps over the weekend another 1.6 GHz (PIIIs) doing both SETI &amp; RC5.:)
 

Assimilator1

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Re running SETI ,I don't think their is any performance differences between 98 &amp; ME

The good news for TA is that tomorrow I'll gain at least 310 MHz for RC5 and perhaps over the weekend another 1.6 GHz (PIIIs) doing both SETI &amp; RC5

Excellent!:D:cool:
 

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Just a note on this: I picked up a Gigabyte GA-7DXR RAID-100 mobo (AMD 761), and threw a 1.2GHz (266 FSB) CPU in, and 256MB of Corsair Value DDR SDRAM, running both Win98SE and Win2K (SP2), and this thing flys over KT133A boards. I'm busting an extra 600,000 Keys/ps on RC5 over my other fav mobo, MSI KT7 Turbo w/ KT133A, and that's just on the first hour's testing tonight!!!

I did a lot of research on mobos, and the Gigabyte and Epox are garnering all the attention in the DDR race. I went with Gigabyte because I've been so impressed with almost all of their boards this past year, as far as stability mainly. Features are great, and these mobos even come with Norton AV and Personal Firewall (throw it, get a Netgear RT314 for almost $100 now!), lots of new tweaks, great mobo layout (no stupid daughtercard setup like Asus, lots of nice-sized capacitors distributed around the mobo, plenty of room for any heatsink around the socket), and blue PCB to boot!!! Promise FastTrak100 RAID controller is very stable, too... I just really like Gigabyte!

But whatever you buy, know this: it's faster than what you traded up from!!!!!!! Enjoy!

 

IsOs

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I'm very excited! I just got the motherboard, cpu &amp; memory today. I can't wait 'till I come home with them and try them out. But I realized that I have no AMD approved power supply. Will it be harmfull if I test this baby with a generic 300 watts power supply?
 

Wiz

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It 'should' be ok with 300W. Of course having the 'approved' ps is better cuz then if something goes wrong you can 'kinda' rule out the ps. Just watch your peripheral use if you think you are going to need more power then don't do it until you get more power.

Oh, and anybody who thinks seti uses more resources than rc5 obviously doesn't run seti. It runs on all my boxes, even my dual box that is dedicated as web, mail, cf and sql server and is not noticable. That is with 2 instances of seti cmd line client running at the same time 24/7.
 

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Im using a deer power supply, dont know if its amd approved or not, but its 300watt, and i have a cdrom, 3 hard drives, a 120mm fan, 2 80mm fans, 1 60mm cpu fan, chipset fan, geforce2 mx with fan, 10/100 nic, 56k modem, sound... oh ya, asus a7v133, 1.33@1417

Never wondered to ask, but is this too much for this PS?, or could this be severely limiting my overclocking potential? since 1417 is my max stable with a millenium glaciator....
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Sukhoi

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Is this a regular TBird or an Athlon 4? If it's an Athlon 4 go SETI for sure...they totally rock at SETI because of the cache enhancements. If it's a TBird, then it's your choice though I'm biased to SETI. :)
 

Insane3D

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I would suggest the Epox 8K7A or the Gigabyte board. The KT266 based motherboards are lacking in performance right now, hopefully that will change. Also, if you can spend some extra $$$, the Athlon 4/MP will do much better @ Seti than a regular Tbird @ 1.4ghz will do. Either way, the Epox or the Gigabyte and some Crucial DDR should be pretty fast..:)

Also, I would try your PSU. The worst that will happen is it will be unstable, but it won't hurt anything...
 

Smoke

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Insane3D,

I have trying to keep up with your post in the <!--Unoffical Athlon MP thread --> and I would like to know what Cooler would you recommend? It sounded like one was causing a lot of trouble during installation...cracking CPUs and frying boards when it moved.
 

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Smokeball:

I would probably suggest the copper bottomed Taisol. I am using the gigantic Swiftech MC462A, and it uses a screw mount system. The posts that you need to install in the holes surrounding the CPU socket come very close to some motherboard components and it takes patience or you could damage the board. It's a great cooler, but the MP's run much cooler, most likely due to the 10% larger surface area, and radical cooling is not really needed. If you look at the pic I posted near the end of that thread, you can see how close a couple of the posts come to the resisitors surrounding the CPU socket.