Just read the review on the new fx. Anyone else think that Nvidia thinks were dumb?

funboy6942

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Not faster then the radeon 9700 pro when the eyecandy is turned up
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Space hoging P.O.S.
Cannot wait till a month after it's release that the new ati card will be out killing it's own radeon 9700 and the fx vacuum cleaner.
Why would anyone drop $400 on it when the 9700 can be had cheaper and acording to the review done by anandtech on the fx is no better the the 9700 as well. They might want to re-think their $400 price tag and make it around $250 if they want to keep anyone interrested in buying their product. IMO
 

nemesismk2

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yeah whatever!
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Lonyo

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I think they're justified in thinking that at least some consumers are dumb, especially those with poor grammar and spelling and a poor grasp of frame rates and what the human brain sees.
You try having a game at 28fps. It's been said many times, TV's are only any good despite their 24 "fps" or whatever because they blurr the images, we can't get along with 28fps at all, it would look horrible, although over 100 is a bit much, 60 or so is probably a fair minimum for "smoothe" gameplay.

I didn't bother finishing reading the rest of your post because it was so badly written and had some incorrect facts so I just gave up, sorry.
(PS, I almost felt sorry for you and thought you might be foreign, until I checked your profile).
 

ginfest

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Same S**t, Different Day.
I read quite a few forums and newsgroups daily and the proliferation of posts like the one above is ridiculous.
Yes the FX is somewhat of a disappointment for many reasons but the endless rants are getting annoying. It's getting tough to get any real info with the influx of BS.
Buy what you want, what's best for you.
I just don't understand what type of satisfaction or "status gain" these people get from having a certain graphics card or from flamming NV?
And this isn't directed so much at you funboy6942 as it's more my general frustration with the situ. Some of the worst are these Rage3D guys who in the past week have registered at every forum they can find just to keep the flamefest going.


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Nolan75

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From the review that I read here on Anandtechs site, the FX card is a major dissapointment. It is essentially even with the 9700 comming in a bit ahead in some cases and a bit behind in some cases. If anyone has downloaded the vid clips that anandtech did with the noise level for hte FX, they would likely never freakin buy the thing. Shoot I am still running an 8500 with 64MB DDR RAM and a TI4200 with 128MB of DDR RAM in my machines and an satisfied with the cards and will not be buying a new one for at least a couple of years. UT2003 looks great on my radeon 8500 which is in the machine that I built for my wife and it only has a freakin 1.7 Celly for the processor.

NVIDIA choked on this release, they should have had it out at least 3 months ago.

Nolan
 

sxr7171

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The public school system in Indiana must really suck. But then again maybe he's in 3rd grade and they haven't quite covered punctuation and the spelling of words that have more than 6 letters in class yet.
 

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What a silly post. Yes the GF FX is not as impressive as all the hype made it out to be. The Rad 9700 Pro looks even better in comarison to the GF FX, that's true.
But to think this launch is a sign of impending doom for Nvidia as a company is just stipid.

Nvidia has tons of money in the bank, thanks to more than it's fair share of sucessful products. You have to remember that the extreme high end graphic cards are not
the big money makers for any company, despite their high price. ( or rather because of their high price)
The money makers are the low to mid range cards. Nvidia is selling truck loads of 4200's and MX 440's.

I have no doubt that Nvidia will release a budget card based on the GF FX that will sell like hot cakes. The next gen Nvidia card will no doubt build on the strengths of the current gen and resolve a lot of the weaknesses.

Show a little respect for this company. These are the guys that conqured the empire of 3Dfx and then ate the survivors.
With only two remaning 3D superpowers it ain't donna be no cold war. As consumers we will be benifitted by faster cards and lower prices.

Looking at the current landscape, there's no way I would put a GF FX ultra in my comp, it's already loud enough, and my Rad 9700 pro is wonderful overkill.
Next year however, if Nvidia has the best card, you're damn right I'll pick one up.

To get all worked up about the GF FX not living up to the hype is silly. Why you believed the hype in the first place is even more silly.

As for the company thinking we the consumers are "dumb", well, marketing in general always starts with that basic assumption.
 

funboy6942

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Wow you would think that I was calling your mom names with some of the responses I got. If you have nothing better to do other then show how much superior you are towards another humanbeing by putting them down good for you. Yes I suck at typing and yes I suck at grammer but I have better things to do with my life then to flame someone. I must be in third grade huh well to flame someone over their grammer or typing shows alot for your grade as well. Please stick to my topic that I wrote and if you hate my typing or grammer just do not respond and move on.
Thanks.

As for my facts maybe you should read the anandtech review on the fx, which is the one I read. It shows that the fx does suck in more ways then one. I read the one on tom's and here and to tell you I would believe the people that wrote the review here then at Tom's any day. I mean how can anyone sit there and say that afet it being a late release and be at par with a 9700 and at some cases worse say NV will not take a huge hit from the market. And even with it at par why would someone pay $4oo for it I cannot see it.

I am trully sorry for making this thread for I was hoping to start a conversation with people that have the same views as I do to just have a conversation and not to have flames towards my shitty gramer or typing.
 

gizbug

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Originally posted by: Lonyo

I didn't bother finishing reading the rest of your post because it was so badly written and had some incorrect facts so I just gave up, sorry.
(PS, I almost felt sorry for you and thought you might be foreign, until I checked your profile).


LOL! Ya, that's for sure. A) Get your facts right and B) SIT AND WAIT til it comes out, and people actually bench the actual product, and don't believe everything you hear. if you are disappointed with Nvidia, then don't buy their fcking products!

 

gizbug

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Originally posted by: Nolan75


NVIDIA choked on this release, they should have had it out at least 3 months ago.

Nolan

Last time I checked, Feb 1st, card hasn't been released yet.
Why dont you wait til it comes out before you judge NVidia
 

funboy6942

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Then I guess then no one should review a card so we can see how it performs. Just let the company screw yeah. Guess your kinda used to that then.
Fn unbelievable that you have nothing better to do then to bash someone. Your prety pathetic that you have to waste your time craping on someones thread to make your life feel better.
And if I have to get my facts straight have you taken the time to read the review done by anandtech on the fx before craping on my thread???? When the cards are turned up with the eye candy the radeon kills the fx in all tests but one. How are my facts not right unless you saying anadtech is writing bad reviews.
 

sash1

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Originally posted by: funboy6942
Then I guess then no one should review a card so we can see how it performs. Just let the company screw yeah. Guess your kinda used to that then.
Fn unbelievable that you have nothing better to do then to bash someone. Your prety pathetic that you have to waste your time craping on someones thread to make your life feel better.
And if I have to get my facts straight have you taken the time to read the review done by anandtech on the fx before craping on my thread???? When the cards are turned up with the eye candy the radeon kills the fx in all tests but one. How are my facts not right unless you saying anadtech is writing bad reviews.
D00d, we can read and comprehend Anand's view a lot better than you can. Your first post was clouded by mis-information, especially about the framerates and stuff. And dun think you can change your first post to make yourself seem any bit smarter...

"Not faster then the radeon 9700 pro when the eyecandy is turned up"

Well duh, the AA of nVidia's cards are supposed to take a larger performance hit, but they give more realistic graphics. Wait for the card to get released before you make false assumptions. nVidia is not a dumb company by any means, although it seems that way by the FX launch, they most likely will boost performance by release date. In the meantime, learn the basics about computers.

~Aunix

 

WalMart1564

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hey all just thought ide drop my 2cents

Nvidia is a great company with a proven track record of killer cards
but on this occasion ATI hit a homerun with its 9500 and 9700 line i think Nvidia will still sell plenty of these cards
but ATI's price to performance of there 9500 pro cards (especially if you overclock) will continue to be a Very attractive option
not to mention this is a competition and when companys compete we (the consumer) win
so either way you feel the price will be lover due to the other
i love this competiton


i dont spell so well either sorry
o how i wish for spellcheck on this forum hehe
 

WalMart1564

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hey all just thought ide drop my 2cents

Nvidia is a great company with a proven track record of killer cards
but on this occasion ATI hit a homerun with its 9500 and 9700 line i think Nvidia will still sell plenty of these cards
but ATI's price to performance of there 9500 pro cards (especially if you overclock) will continue to be a Very attractive option
not to mention this is a competition and when companys compete we (the consumer) win
so either way you feel the price will be lover due to the other
i love this competiton


i dont spell so well either sorry
o how i wish for spellcheck on this forum hehe
 

Bopple

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Originally posted by: AunixP35
Well duh, the AA of nVidia's cards are supposed to take a larger performance hit, but they give more realistic graphics.

~Aunix
Huh?
 

jiffylube1024

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Originally posted by: WalMart1564
sorry for the double post

you mean triple post ;).

Originally posted by: Bopple
Originally posted by: AunixP35
Well duh, the AA of nVidia's cards are supposed to take a larger performance hit, but they give more realistic graphics.

~Aunix
Huh?

Yeah, double Huh here! What exactly does does this mean!?

 

StumbleBum1

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FX:
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Not faster then the radeon 9700 pro when the eyecandy is turned up


All this is true about the fx:Q
It just goes to show that Nvida is running very scared,they missed a whole product cycle and had to resort to severe overclocking just to be able to compete with Ati. Let's go back in time, If 3dfx had the cash to build the V6000 they would have brought it to market at $399 even though they would be taking a loss on every board they sold and we all know how that turned out,3dfx ran out of cash and sold what was left of the company to Nvida.The differance here is Nvida has enough cash to weather this storm and will come back stong with the next revision;)
 

sash1

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Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
Originally posted by: Bopple
Originally posted by: AunixP35
Well duh, the AA of nVidia's cards are supposed to take a larger performance hit, but they give more realistic graphics.

~Aunix
Huh?

Yeah, double Huh here! What exactly does does this mean!?
LoL, sorry if that was worded kind of weird, internet is slow at night and I tried to post that message three times, kinda got worse each time I retyped it. What I meant to say, is that was due to poor driver optimization that 4xS performance was bad on the FX. Guess I was too tired to think straight. :D

 

Soulkeeper

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The cards aren't even in stores yet
reserve judgement for a few weeks
I still think nvidia's drivers will be far superior
 

Nolan75

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originaly posted by gizbug

Last time I checked, Feb 1st, card hasn't been released yet.

Exactly, should have been out in 2002 not in the second month of 2003. Hell it should have come out around the same time as the 9700, especially considering it looks to be in the same ball park performance wise, just with ten times more noise.

Nolan