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BrightCandle said:
Sealed verses unsealed doesn't really convey the difference in how they go together
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Sure it does. One is sealed up and you can't crack it open without basically ruining it. The other comes in pieces and you fill it yourself because it's not sealed and delivered to you in a single piece that is pre-filled.
 
Nemesis 1 said:
context of the topic not found 404
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You are raging on the forums because someone used wrong name for a cooling system. You are calling people dumb left and right, yet you did not think for a second if this name have any sense at all.
Cooling aside...
If you have a loop - lets say a ring. You cut it and straighten it (open)... is it still the ring? Or is it now just a strap of metal?
Chill man
 
BrightCandle said:
I call them prebuilts verses custom.

Sealed verses unsealed doesn't really convey the difference in how they go together, which is arguably the main distinction between the two.
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Well I don't see anything wrong with your real world view. It works for me. I just don't care to hear PC water cooling referred to as being open because there is no truth in such a statement.
 
Erenhardt said:
You are raging on the forums because someone used wrong name for a cooling system. You are calling people dumb left and right, yet you did not think for a second if this name have any sense at all.
Cooling aside...
If you have a loop - lets say a ring. You cut it and straighten it (open)... is it still the ring? Or is it now just a strap of metal?
Chill man
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You know what you remind me of the raging bull hell of a boxer not . The man could take a beating tho.

As I said Google Open vs closed PC watercooling systems . When you find one thats correct please link . Good luck finding it. So ya All is little overboard .A vary large majority don't get it . Sure they were mislead by the so called PC water cooling gurus .
 
chimaxi83 said:
What was the point of this thread in VC&G again? 😕
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I miss placed it but the topic was about water cooled video card review AT did . I read the comments . I believe the 4 comment down set me off . With misinformation ' If they want to move this to cases and cooling that fine . Thats where I intended to put it. But more readers will see it here. I mean you guys are always hammering me with spelling grammer remarks. SO I thought true knowledge was something you held high . My mistake.Not to take this to far out of OT. But the 2012 12/21/12 thing I lol at every time I see people say what happened. To my knowledge the new world as a whole was discovered until 1492 of course I know thats not true . But its what is taught. So the calender says 2012 is the end of an age or a period . and its starts it 26000 year cycle again the problem is THE HRCC changed the calender. Problem in history - Harod kink of jews died in 4 bc. The Roman ceasar at the time of christ death . Didn't come to power until 3AD . See the 7 year problem we have here. The church set the date at harods death . So we have a 1-3 year calender error that the myans new nothing about.
 
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Sealed vs. unsealed has the same ambiguity. An unsealed watercooling system would seem to imply that it is leaking. Certainly, all closed loop watercooling systems are sealed when in operation. "Permanently closed loop" is imho the best description for these systems. On the other hand, this is just semantic. Many people call these systems "closed loop" systems and if you know that this isn't exactly the best phrase for it, you already know what they are talking about. There is no confusion from the phrase.
 
Wall Street said:
Sealed vs. unsealed has the same ambiguity. An unsealed watercooling system would seem to imply that it is leaking. Certainly, all closed loop watercooling systems are sealed when in operation. "Permanently closed loop" is imho the best description for these systems. On the other hand, this is just semantic. Many people call these systems "closed loop" systems and if you know that this isn't exactly the best phrase for it, you already know what they are talking about. There is no confusion from the phrase.
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I agree. Coolers like the one in the review are called sealed. That doesn't mean that we need to call other systems unsealed, or anything else. I also agree that "open loop" is an oxymoron.
 
I genuinely think you're not getting nearly worked up enough about this issue. It's stuff like people saying or writing 'closed loop water cooling' that really makes me want to take a hammer to my PC and give up gaming for good. PS the word is 'grammar'. 🙂
 
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Yeah seems like there is a missing terminology problem.

We just don't have a word to distinguish the different types of water cooling systems. So people use whatever makes sense but isn't too cumbersome. Shame that we'll lose out on the original definition of open vs closed.

But it reminds me of how we lost the meaning of "begging the question". People always misuse that phrase to mean something else, so we lose the original meaning. Oh well, that's language for you.

We need a manufacturer to make an actual open loop system and then people will need to be more careful how they describe things. But without any open loop systems around, people will misuse the term because there is no other need for it.
 
KingFatty said:
Shame that we'll lose out on the original definition of open vs closed.
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There is a large geothermal industry that uses the terms properly (and likely created the terms). A few thousand PC users aren't going to change it, they're just going to sound ignorant to anyone who knows the real meaning of the terms.
 
Nemesis 1 said:
Why am I angry . I am not . I have followed the evolution of pc watercooling and have sold a block design to well known company. This company unlike the others have been around befor pc's . Koolance/ Danger den/ ect . Made shit up as they went along learning at the same time.
The Koolance RP-452x2 revision 1.2 is a perfect example of stupidity vary hard to remove air . I fixed that problem and turned it into the best of the best. How did Koolance fix the problem by remounting the pumps and when doing so mounted the pump in the only manner not allowed by the pump manufactoring company . Its an actual crime. I hope koolance pays threw pumps going bad and having to replace them . the pump manufacture will not replace these pumps ever. they say not to mount in that manner. it like the whole world is gone insane over a dollar.DD actually have their bases forged by this company. I bet you all thought these bowed bases was an idea DD had . Not it was the result of bad forgings .
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And I designed the NASA space shuttle! You know for somebody going out of the way to call people morons you sure do have a lot of errors. I'll admit I'm not perfect at writing, and far from it.

Though I'm not raging or calling people morons for misusing a term. Not to mention I've yet to see somebody call a water coolant system "open loop", but then again I don't search for it either.

Summary, before you call other people morons for misusing a term how about not misusing and abusing the English language.

@The person below, maybe you missed the part were I said I wasn't gonna search for it. And it seems you totally missed the point which I made clear as day.
 
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Nemesis 1 said:
This isn't a debate its a freaken lesson . There are NO open loop PC water cooling systems available on the market . They are all closed loop .Thats the problem with people who are clueless. The make shit up and than defend their ignorance with but but but . Get over it. Google PC open loop vs closed loop water cooling . The ignorance is overwhelming. Your defining things as you understand them . thats not how its done
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Sounds more like a "lecture" than a lesson.
 
Is there even such a thing as an Open Loop system, by the OP's definition, used for CPU cooling?

The reason I ask is that terminology can be unique between applications. Open/Closed in the use of CPU liquid coolers makes perfect sense, although Sealed/Unsealed is at least equally sensible.
 
What is your reference point? If Earth is our frame of reference, all cooling systems are closed loop.
 
sandorski said:
Is there even such a thing as an Open Loop system, by the OP's definition, used for CPU cooling?

The reason I ask is that terminology can be unique between applications. Open/Closed in the use of CPU liquid coolers makes perfect sense, although Sealed/Unsealed is at least equally sensible.
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Well, my neighbor has these "rain barrels" that capture and store rainwater from the household rain gutters. I think each is 50 gallons, and they are strung in parallel.

Why not use that for cooling, let the rainwater drain from the elevated barrels through your open loop and then back out to water the garden/lawn?

Cooling by rainwater. Also, you could supplement the barrels by peeing into a cup and pouring that into the rain barrels. Or somehow route toilet water there when you only pee, so just fluids go to the barrels and the poo doesn't get diverted.
 
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