Just ran Prime95 test and have a question if anyone knows the answer

[LoneGreyWolf20]

I just ran the Prime95 test because I have been crashing out of SWG lately and it has me a little worried. I am Crashing to the desktop for no apparent reason and with no error. I know it's not a heat issue as everything is dust free and the Videocard is warm, not hot to the touch. I also have a CPU/Motherboard monitoring program on right now and the temps are with in normal range. The test turned up some kind of a hardware failure within 3 minutes of it starting. Here is what it says exactly:

Test 1, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922945 using 1024k FFT length.
FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4
Hardware Failure detected, consult Stress.txt file. (I did this and nothing really mentions my problem)
Torture Test ran 3 minutes - 1 errors, 0 warnings.
Execution halted.

I ran this test 2 times and came up with the same error. Does anyone have any ideas?

LoneGreyWolf20

 

[rch4001]

just a guess - but I think the most likely causes are weak power supply or memory

 

[LoneGreyWolf20]

Originally posted by: rch4001
just a guess - but I think the most likely causes are weak power supply or memory

I have a 400 Watt PS, don't remember who made it though. If I was to buy one could I just buy a 500 watt and slap it in or will it give me problems? I have never replaced a PS before so I don't know all that is involved.

LoneGreyWolf20

 

[ModemMix]

Is your processor overclocked?

In all my expirence, the most common cause of being thrown back to the desktop without an error, is genneraly one of two things. Either an unstable overclock. Or a lack of voltage to the cpu causing instability (often the reason for the unstable overclock).

This can occure even when not over clocking. Try bumping your vcore up .5 and see if that helps.

 

[rch4001]

most power supplies are standard and easy to change out with 4 screws in the back. some like dell have non standard connections to the mobo.

Of course - the power supply may not be your problem. you may want to test the memory with memtest86 which may help you figure out if the memory is OK or needs more voltage.

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: rch4001
most power supplies are standard and easy to change out with 4 screws in the back. some like dell have non standard connections to the mobo.

Of course - the power supply may not be your problem. you may want to test the memory with memtest86 which may help you figure out if the memory is OK or needs more voltage.

Yes my guess is on the ram.

 

[imported_whatever]

Originally posted by: ModemMix
Is your processor overclocked?

In all my expirence, the most common cause of being thrown back to the desktop without an error, is genneraly one of two things. Either an unstable overclock. Or a lack of voltage to the cpu causing instability (often the reason for the unstable overclock).

This can occure even when not over clocking. Try bumping your vcore up .5 and see if that helps.

just for if LoneGreyWolf20 does not realize what you mean...he means bump your vcore by .05, as bumping it by .5 with stock cooling is a recepie for disaster.

 

[LoneGreyWolf20]

Originally posted by: ModemMix
Is your processor overclocked?

In all my expirence, the most common cause of being thrown back to the desktop without an error, is genneraly one of two things. Either an unstable overclock. Or a lack of voltage to the cpu causing instability (often the reason for the unstable overclock).

This can occure even when not over clocking. Try bumping your vcore up .5 and see if that helps.

I can tell ya nothing is overclocked in here, not even the video card. As far as bumping up the voltage to .05 as per the correction below, is this done in the Bios? I have never bumped up voltages before so I am unsure where to do this at.

 

[LoneGreyWolf20]

Originally posted by: rch4001
most power supplies are standard and easy to change out with 4 screws in the back. some like dell have non standard connections to the mobo.

Of course - the power supply may not be your problem. you may want to test the memory with memtest86 which may help you figure out if the memory is OK or needs more voltage.

Is memtest the one that needs a floppy disk? I don't have a 1.5" floppy disk drive on my computer that seems to work. I have tried to format and use a floppy before and it didn't seem to work for me. Is there another one that I can use to test memory? Let me add it works to install things, but doesn't seem to work for anything else.

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: LoneGreyWolf20

Originally posted by: rch4001
most power supplies are standard and easy to change out with 4 screws in the back. some like dell have non standard connections to the mobo.

Of course - the power supply may not be your problem. you may want to test the memory with memtest86 which may help you figure out if the memory is OK or needs more voltage.

Is memtest the one that needs a floppy disk? I don't have a 1.5" floppy disk drive on my computer that seems to work. I have tried to format and use a floppy before and it didn't seem to work for me. Is there another one that I can use to test memory? Let me add it works to install things, but doesn't seem to work for anything else.

You can use memtest86+ , go here http://www.memtest.org/ and you can grab a floppy image OR a cd rom image (ISO) that you can burn to a cdr or cdrw to test your ram.

 

[ModemMix]

Yes .05 is indeed what i ment. And yes, this is done within the bios.

 

[LoneGreyWolf20]

I went to where the voltages are in the BIOS and I am unable to change them. I guess this isn't an option for me?

 

[Concillian]

Which Prime95 test did you run?

At this point you need to figure out which component is causing you the problem. Hopefully it's the RAM, because it's hard to differentiate CPU/MB/power supply.

Memtest is a good test for RAM, write to a CD if you can't use a floppy. Leave it run overnight so you get at least 3 or 4 passes on the memory. Any error there, even 1, is a problem. SuperPi can give a quick test of RAM within windows, but is not as extensive a test. If you fail SuperPi something is probably wrong with your RAM, but if you pass, it's not guaranteed all is well.

Try the Prime95 FPU/max heat test for primarily testing CPU. Blend test is really only useful for FSB/RAM testing when you know the CPU is good. A failure of the blend test can be anything, though the fact that you fail 1024k points to things likely being RAM related.

 

[Adn4n]

Ok listen to me well. I had the same problem, yes SWG crashed for no reason. Just get the newest drivers for your video card and you should be fine. Btw, is it ATI?

 

[user1234]

first, wtf is SWG ? second, you CAN change your vcore in bios, you were probably looking at the wrong screen, the one that shows monitoring info. You need to go the "advanced setting" screen or something like that. Third, your micky mouse system is royaly messed up if it fails p95 within 5 minutes, so even if your SWG (whatever that is) crashes are related to driver issues or not, you still have a serious problem. Given the fact you never ever overclocked in your whole life, this problem is most likely caused by your memory, so you need to throw out your cheap junk generic memory and get something normal with a warranty. But run memtest first, just to be sure. I'm sure you can handle burning ISO image on a CD, right ?

 

[Jess1313]

Its kinda hard to find a problem when you dont know what kinda system it is. I believe the drivers could need reinstalled.

With crashing alot off the time the hard drive gets corrupt. A lot of dust inside the comp causing shorts could be the prob also.

Take it apart & clean & do a fresh install on the hard drive. If this does not fix then something probably has went bad. Probably mem if this is so.

Jess1313

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: user1234
first, wtf is SWG ? second, you CAN change your vcore in bios, you were probably looking at the wrong screen, the one that shows monitoring info. You need to go the "advanced setting" screen or something like that. Third, your micky mouse system is royaly messed up if it fails p95 within 5 minutes, so even if your SWG (whatever that is) crashes are related to driver issues or not, you still have a serious problem. Given the fact you never ever overclocked in your whole life, this problem is most likely caused by your memory, so you need to throw out your cheap junk generic memory and get something normal with a warranty. But run memtest first, just to be sure. I'm sure you can handle burning ISO image on a CD, right ?

Stop trolling or everyone in here will se that you take a nice long vacation. All he did was ask a question... you need not have insulted him or his system.

Its probably your memory. Take it out and check for anything on the gold leads. Also run memtest. After those if still not working raise your VDIMM by .1 volt and try again.

If none of that works post back and well get some other things to try.

Good Luck.

-Kevin

 

[user1234]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: user1234
first, wtf is SWG ? second, you CAN change your vcore in bios, you were probably looking at the wrong screen, the one that shows monitoring info. You need to go the "advanced setting" screen or something like that. Third, your micky mouse system is royaly messed up if it fails p95 within 5 minutes, so even if your SWG (whatever that is) crashes are related to driver issues or not, you still have a serious problem. Given the fact you never ever overclocked in your whole life, this problem is most likely caused by your memory, so you need to throw out your cheap junk generic memory and get something normal with a warranty. But run memtest first, just to be sure. I'm sure you can handle burning ISO image on a CD, right ?

Stop trolling or everyone in here will se that you take a nice long vacation. All he did was ask a question... you need not have insulted him or his system.

Its probably your memory. Take it out and check for anything on the gold leads. Also run memtest. After those if still not working raise your VDIMM by .1 volt and try again.

If none of that works post back and well get some other things to try.

Good Luck.

-Kevin

Not sure what yours is refereing to, but I did not insult him at all, I actually offered the same advice that you repeated based on my post (reposted). And as far as insulting his system, if a system can indeed be insulted - I did not do that either. A system that fail prime95 within 5 seconds is messed up by definition, and is lucky to run any application stably, especially demanding ones like games. The only way such a condition could exist on a stock (non overclocked or tweaked) system is if the components used are low quality, that is junk in other words. And we all agree it's most likely the memory.

 

[TreyRandom]

Originally posted by: user1234

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: user1234
first, wtf is SWG ? second, you CAN change your vcore in bios, you were probably looking at the wrong screen, the one that shows monitoring info. You need to go the "advanced setting" screen or something like that. Third, your micky mouse system is royaly messed up if it fails p95 within 5 minutes, so even if your SWG (whatever that is) crashes are related to driver issues or not, you still have a serious problem. Given the fact you never ever overclocked in your whole life, this problem is most likely caused by your memory, so you need to throw out your cheap junk generic memory and get something normal with a warranty. But run memtest first, just to be sure. I'm sure you can handle burning ISO image on a CD, right ?

Stop trolling or everyone in here will se that you take a nice long vacation. All he did was ask a question... you need not have insulted him or his system.

Its probably your memory. Take it out and check for anything on the gold leads. Also run memtest. After those if still not working raise your VDIMM by .1 volt and try again.

If none of that works post back and well get some other things to try.

Good Luck.

-Kevin

Not sure what yours is refereing to, but I did not insult him at all, I actually offered the same advice that you repeated based on my post (reposted). And as far as insulting his system, if a system can indeed be insulted - I did not do that either. A system that fail prime95 within 5 seconds is messed up by definition, and is lucky to run any application stably, especially demanding ones like games. The only way such a condition could exist on a stock (non overclocked or tweaked) system is if the components used are low quality, that is junk in other words. And we all agree it's most likely the memory.

Yes, you were completely rude, insulting him and his system:

first, wtf is SWG?

You could use Google rather than being rude. A quick search will reveal that he's probably talking about Star Wars: Galaxies.

Third, your micky mouse system is ...

How do you know he's got a "mickEy mouse system"? It might be configured incorrectly... but it might not be a "mickEy mouse system." This was rude and confrontational. See: trolling.

Given the fact you never ever overclocked in your whole life...

He's not inferior because he's never overclocked, so you shouldn't talk down to him. Again, you're being rude and confrontational.

so you need to throw out your cheap junk generic memory

How do you know what memory he has? You are being rude and confrontational.

I'm sure you can handle burning ISO image on a CD, right ?

That was sarcastic, and uncalled for. I don't even need to repeat that you were rude and confrontational with him.

Do you know what trolling is? If you were halfway civil to people around here, perhaps we'd overlook an occasional flame. But you do it all... the... time.

If you had originally helped him out by using the civil language that you used in your most recent post in this thread, we'd not be having this discussion. Not in this thread, anyway.

I'm with Gamingphreek. Stop trolling, or the mods will eventually decide to give you a vacation, whether temporary or permanent.

 

[user1234]

well, at least now we know what swg is... Do people really expect everyone to remember the acronyms of every possible game ? and about trolling.... I wonder if you came to this thread because you were interested in the subject and had something to contribute, or is it because you were searching my posts and following me here ? so who exactly is the random troller confrontationalist flamer here ? anyways, writing style is in the eyes of the beholder, some like it, and some don't. You seem to not be able to differentiate style from substance.

 

[TreyRandom]

Originally posted by: user1234
well, at least now we know what swg is... Do people really expect everyone to remember the acronyms of every possible game ? and about trolling.... I wonder if you came to this thread because you were interested in the subject and had something to contribute, or is it because you were searching my posts and following me here ? so who exactly is the random troller confrontationalist flamer here ? anyways, writing style is in the eyes of the beholder, some like it, and some don't. You seem to not be able to differentiate style from substance.

Calling someone out for being a troll isn't trolling.

Besides, I used to run Prime95, and I currently run Seventeen or Bust (SB), another distributed computing app that deals with prime numbers. If you don't believe me, check the SB stats in the distributed computing forum. So it's not out of the ordinary for me to check posts like this.

Yes, writing style is in the eye of the beholder, but you've been called out by more people than just me. If I was the only one who thought that way, you might have a case, but I'm not. Many of us are tired of seeing you attack others on the forums, especially those who don't ascribe to your particular point-of-view. Yes, I admit it: I want to see you banned from the forums because you can't seem to stop your trollish, sarcastic comments.

Let's not take up any more space in this thread - I'm sure LGW20 still wants help with his problem. If you want to discuss this further, let's take it to PM or to Forum Issues. Or, ignore me and do whatever you want - it's only a matter of time.

 

[ModemMix]

take the bickering to PM please im more interested in the subject of this thread and wether he's had any luck trouble shooting the issue at hand.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: user1234
well, at least now we know what swg is... Do people really expect everyone to remember the acronyms of every possible game ? and about trolling.... I wonder if you came to this thread because you were interested in the subject and had something to contribute, or is it because you were searching my posts and following me here ? so who exactly is the random troller confrontationalist flamer here ? anyways, writing style is in the eyes of the beholder, some like it, and some don't. You seem to not be able to differentiate style from substance.

You were trolling. ANd flaming. YOu had absolutely nothing hgood to add to this thread other than to insult him and the hard work he put into building a computer. Like Trey said how do YOU know what happened.

"...searching my posts and following me here"

Yes im your personaly virtual stalker... Why in the world would i follow you?!?!

Your writing doesn't have substaance... it is directly insulting the person or a posession of the person the can mean a lot... so stop!!

Now for the On Topic discussion... i need to know whether you tried what anyone suggested before. before i can troubleshoot any further.

-Kevin

 

[user1234]

Dude, I was not talking to you, you are quoting my reply to someone else's post ! Back on subject, the OP never said he built he's own system (or, as a matter of fact, give any other details about his system). I would assume that someone measures heat by touch, and doesn't know the voltage adjustment is in the bios, and can't find it even after being told, probably did not build his own machine. Most likely he bought a low end or used machine from somewhere, and that's why his system fails prime 95 within 5 minutes, without being overclocked (as far as he knows).

 

[Fern]

Hey Guys, has anyone noticed that the OP hasn't posted back to this thread in over two weeks?

It's a dead thread that user1234 revived after 12 days of inactivity for reasons that escape me. It was dead b4, maybe we can all just let it R.I.P.

Peace