Just put it back to xp pro from vista ultimate..

[Tbirdkid]

Vista is an upgraded version of xp. The file system may be better, but for now the drivers suck, and so does the impersonated version of 3d. I had it for 3 weeks, and i can tell ya, i hate it. I wont use it. If i have to, i will go straight linux for my desktop needs. Right now, i dual boot with my lappy which is my main machine. Works like a charm.

Big time ubuntu edgy eft fanboi here..

 

[SunnyD]

Assuming your copy of Vista is legit... since you're not going to use it, can I have it?

And the file system is still NTFS. Nothing changed there.

 

[ChronoReverse]

I like how he proves he doesn't know what he's talking about immediately XD

 

[stash]

And the file system is still NTFS. Nothing changed there.

No major changes (the version number didn't change), but there are some new features (transactional NTFS, disk shrink, etc).

Somehow though, I don't think that's what the OP was referring to.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Tbirdkid
Vista is an upgraded version of xp. The file system may be better, but for now the drivers suck, and so does the impersonated version of 3d. I had it for 3 weeks, and i can tell ya, i hate it. I wont use it. If i have to, i will go straight linux for my desktop needs. Right now, i dual boot with my lappy which is my main machine. Works like a charm.

Big time ubuntu edgy eft fanboi here..

Of course it's an updated version of XP. Do you really think MS is stupid enough to make too many changes to their already hugely successful OS (WinXP)?

I think the updated interface is pretty slick. What is it you dislike about it?

Gee, the drivers suck for an OS that isn't released yet. I'm shocked!

If you don't like it, don't use it. Period. I like Ubuntu as well but the truth is there's things that are far better in Windows and at least one that I can only do in Windows.

 

[Tbirdkid]

Im not using it. I thought that they changed the fs. Obviously my bad, it did say ntfs when i formatted and went back to xp pro. i still use microsoft, but i just cant use vista. Also, the latest beta, is what i have, obviously its beta, but it still doesnt look to me any better than xp. also instability is a joke. i hope the final version isnt that bad. im running a pretty decent rig too.

chrono, i like how you jump into a thread, and crap all over it. if i dont know, it would be better to be helpful. not like an a55.

 

[ChronoReverse]

The problem is that your entire post was a crap in the first place.

What does "impersonated version of 3D" even mean? The file system is better? Ignoring the minor changes in NTFS that most people wouldn't even notice, how is it better? You could've mentioned the newly exposed features at least but not even that.

Going straight back to Linux for your desktop needs? That's fine and all since desktop Linux is considerably better nowadays, but why did you say that? Qualify it.

Then you go and say "Oh, I'm an Ubuntu fanboy" which doesn't add anything.


The point is that you have not posted any useful information (like some of the irritating things Vista does [like putting certain settings highly nested]) by not stating what was wrong. The title of the thread implies that you didn't like something in Vista that made you go back to XP but the post doesn't say what. You also managed to post something that implies that you didn't even understand what was changed in Vista.



In any case, I hope you weren't testing out Beta 2 (or heaven forbid, Beta 1) because the RC's were a huge step up in comparison. The video driver situation is still pretty dismal, but at least you can get stuff running fairly well (outside of games).

 

[Tbirdkid]

finally, a decent post from ya. i was just stating my opinions, for what they were worth. i didnt ask for your retort, i was stating opinion. if you didnt like it, you could have walked away. there are lots of things that drove me crazy, but the major one was the fact it was just xp, with a bunch of gui upgrades, another memory hog. i cant wait for the techs to get calls to ask if they can do things when the new os comes out on the user end. nothing like raping people for something stupid. but then again, it is ms...

and as a fanboi, i mean that i prefer it vs the crap of vista. i hope it gets better, but i dont see how. its the final rc that i have btw.

 

[ChronoReverse]

Well, it's just a GUI update that reduces CPU usage, a memory hog that increases responsiveness and so on.

And I can post my opinion in here too, if you don't like it, you can retort back

 

[dev0lution]

Betas sucked. RC's without the latest buggy drivers for everything (worked better for me with whatever Vista installed) was fine.

 

[JasonCoder]

IMO:

The Good:
3D windowing is cool
Gadget sidebar is cool
Much improved net code and IPv6
Things seems peppier than XP. I have a dual core so maybe there's better MT code.
Better security model
Built in peer networking code, WPF, WCF & WF
Better available cmd shell

The Bad:
So much didn't make it to RTM (WinFS, ObjectSpaces, PC 2 PC sync, etc.)
Suck drivers (especially vid) but really the release is at least a month away
Lots of existing software not Vista aware so it causes irritating security warnings and such
Even VStudio.net's not perfect for Vista yet as the patch for it is still in beta

If you've been running for three weeks you clearly don't have the RTM. If you're only complaint is inferior 3D then you're missing most of the OS IMO. Probably the most surprising thing to me yet is since I've installed I have yet to have a crash. Even through many driver loads, software loads, VPC, betas, development, etc I haven't had a single crash and I'm over a week in.

For those wondering why msft feels the need to release a new OS I don't think it's just about their evil quest to make a buck. Fact is, like it or not, XP is a legacy OS. It's over five years old. That's the longest time msft has ever gone between OS releases. OSX released five major updates in that time. I have no idea how many point releases Ubuntu or the linux kernel had in that time. The only real update for XP of any broad consequence was SP2 - an update the company spent major resources on and didn't charge a penny for btw.

And here are some positive things about that... the cost of machine that meets the minimum requirements < XP license. I can run 2 VPC XP clients and a server2003 in a VPC all within Vista and still have plenty of resources for Vista (2gb ram).

If you're going to bash an OS you certainly won't have any trouble finding things to complain about, just like other won't about your fav OS. Take it to a advocacy usenet group for more of that.