This site must be filled with 80 aliases. Nobody could seriously could think some of what i've read here so far. People complaining about its graphics are patently absurd but I think those complaining about gameplay aren't far behind. Unless there was an expectation, no FPS fan could rate the game below a 5 out of 10. I just don't see how.
Huh? Read again what you wrote. You said the "'crappy system' excuse rarely holds true", yet it clearly holds true all over this thread with people claiming the graphics are nothing special. Fact of the matter is, people who claim the graphics aren't anything special do not have the hardware to run it well enough to fully enjoy its graphics.
Now, whether that's the reason you thought the game was "pure crap" or not is irrelevant, I'm not going to sit here and argue over 4 pages about whether the game is "open ended" or "open open, really open ended" enough. As I said before, there's nothing about this game that's "pure crap", just because its not your GOTD or GOTC (decade and century, respectively) doesn't mean the game isn't a quality title by any reasonable standards. And you wonder why people think you hate every game......
Crysis stopped being fun in the Demo. No review I've read has wished me back into that game. I can deal with 25-30fps what I can't deal with is unispired gameplay that goes out of its way to make something new and fail to ever be emergent. Games that have been in development for years for the PS3 have had the suit idea in their design documents.
But for 20 bucks, I can't blame you for it. Thats not a bad price for any game with pretty graphics and potential mods.
But for 20 bucks, I can't blame you for it. Thats not a bad price for any game with pretty graphics and potential mods.
pontifex
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i think you need to read what your wrote again. who here said the graphics look like crap because their system can't handle it? i didn't see any one person say that. you eitherlike to put words in people's mouths or just like to pretend.
from what i can tell, you're saying the only way to enjoy the game is if you can play the game on full graphics? thats pure bullshit and if you think otherwise, then i really can't take anything you say seriously. the only thing crysis has going for it is the graphics. the game is pure and utter shit.
HamburgerBoy
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I don't really understand the complaints about gameplay at all. It's nothing new, but how many first person shooters actually are? Admittedly I haven't played COD4 yet but the rest (Half-Life 2, Doom 3, FEAR, etc) don't really bring anything new either. Anyone complaining about linearity in Crysis must detest those three games.
EDIT: On my computer (X2 3800+, 2GB DDR2, 7900GT) I can't run it much higher than medium (physics are high and texture resolution is low) but it still looks better than anything else I can run.
EDIT: On my computer (X2 3800+, 2GB DDR2, 7900GT) I can't run it much higher than medium (physics are high and texture resolution is low) but it still looks better than anything else I can run.
Zenoth
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Bingo.
The second time through is the key word however. Playing Half-Life / H-L 2 / F.E.A.R / COD4, etc, for the first time can be fun, very fun, since you don't know what's going to happen, you see it's scripted and triggered quite clearly but you didn't know what would happen exactly, how and when. The second time however is when you realize that you're playing a "too linear" game. But there's still potential the second time since you might have missed a few secret passages (for games that do have those) here and there. But then eventually, whether it's the third or hundredth time you get to know every corners and triggers of the game as if you were seeing it through its editor.
I'll always remember the first time I played H-L 2, it was one hell of a ride (although I did not liked the Buggy/Hover Boat levels even for the first time, I thought it was long for nothing, provided very little game-play elements, was dull and just too bland overall), same thing for Crysis and the original Half-Life. But then... anyway I think I'd just be repeating myself here, I've made my point.
They don't need to explicitly say that, claiming the graphics are "so-so" or "nothing special" as stated numerous times in this thread implies the game was run at low settings or by someone who clearly doesn't know what they are talking about. There is no game with better graphics on the PC than Crysis. The End.
Rofl, talk about putting words in people's mouths or just pretending? If anyone is taking a polar position on the game, its you and your "utter crap" review. Oh but wait, its got good graphics now right? And good character control. And good level design. And good game mechanics. And good vehicle integration. And good dialogue and story. And overall good polish. No one said it had to be the ultimate #1 GOTY FPS 4 LYFE~~~~~~~~ in order to be deemed a good game, which again, is why no one takes your opinion on games seriously.
pontifex
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Originally posted by: chizow
They don't need to explicitly say that, claiming the graphics are "so-so" or "nothing special" as stated numerous times in this thread implies the game was run at low settings or by someone who clearly doesn't know what they are talking about. There is no game with better graphics on the PC than Crysis. The End.
Rofl, talk about putting words in people's mouths or just pretending? If anyone is taking a polar position on the game, its you and your "utter crap" review. Oh but wait, its got good graphics now right? And good character control. And good level design. And good game mechanics. And good vehicle integration. And good dialogue and story. And overall good polish. No one said it had to be the ultimate #1 GOTY FPS 4 LYFE~~~~~~~~ in order to be deemed a good game, which again, is why no one takes your opinion on games seriously.
based on all that you said there, why wouldn't it be GOTY then?
the problem is that the only thing it has is good graphics.
I'll weigh in here as a newbie to FPS in general and an occasional PC gamer. Crysis is my first FPS. I built a new PC in Feb; a Q6600 oc'd to 3.0 and 4g of RAM with an 8800GTX and a 2408WFP Dell monitor. My taste in gaming has always been sims like Silent Hunter for subs and many years back, Harpoon. I really don't play PC games that often being a long time WWII board gamer; ASL etc.
My friends said "Oh you should get 'Assassin's Creed' or 'Crysis' to play on your new rig"
All the talk, like this thread, had me intrigued as regards Crysis, EB Games had used copies for sale and a few weeks ago I bit and got it. You should have heard the clerk, what a laugh..."Are you sure you can run this? There's no returns on Crysis you know!.... blah blah. Quite funny actually, the guy behind me in line at the counter aked what I had for a rig and we agreed that I should have no problem running the game... "8800GTX oh, that's a good card!" I figured that out beforehand and when I read the reccommended system requirements on the box I thought "Yeah, riiiight all setiings at low with those specs"
I run it at 1600 x 1050 at very high and get 30-40 fps, it plays and looks great, yeah we'd all like to run that Aussie bloke's SLI'd 9800GX2 60fps machine in those YouTube vids but, well, I spend my green on other essential things like food, beer and the electric bill.
All that being said, so far I'm enjoying myself. I die alot, not being used to FPS games and plaing on 'Hard' but I'm having fun doing so. I'm getting better and looking forward to 'Delta'. I like the look of the graphics, the grass is kinda poor while you crawl through it but overall the terrain is quite good looking from a reasonable distance, although my experience is limited, YMMV. There are a few glitchy things and some other weapons would be nice, Claymores for instance.'Nomad there's a NK patrol headed your way' OK put the mine here in the grass facing the trail, cloak behind the rock, Detonator in left hand... wait till patrol is nicely lined up... 'Whose your Daddy Mr Kim?' KABOOM!
The game is OK. I'm having fun.
My friends said "Oh you should get 'Assassin's Creed' or 'Crysis' to play on your new rig"
All the talk, like this thread, had me intrigued as regards Crysis, EB Games had used copies for sale and a few weeks ago I bit and got it. You should have heard the clerk, what a laugh..."Are you sure you can run this? There's no returns on Crysis you know!.... blah blah. Quite funny actually, the guy behind me in line at the counter aked what I had for a rig and we agreed that I should have no problem running the game... "8800GTX oh, that's a good card!" I figured that out beforehand and when I read the reccommended system requirements on the box I thought "Yeah, riiiight all setiings at low with those specs"
I run it at 1600 x 1050 at very high and get 30-40 fps, it plays and looks great, yeah we'd all like to run that Aussie bloke's SLI'd 9800GX2 60fps machine in those YouTube vids but, well, I spend my green on other essential things like food, beer and the electric bill.
All that being said, so far I'm enjoying myself. I die alot, not being used to FPS games and plaing on 'Hard' but I'm having fun doing so. I'm getting better and looking forward to 'Delta'. I like the look of the graphics, the grass is kinda poor while you crawl through it but overall the terrain is quite good looking from a reasonable distance, although my experience is limited, YMMV. There are a few glitchy things and some other weapons would be nice, Claymores for instance.'Nomad there's a NK patrol headed your way' OK put the mine here in the grass facing the trail, cloak behind the rock, Detonator in left hand... wait till patrol is nicely lined up... 'Whose your Daddy Mr Kim?' KABOOM!
The game is OK. I'm having fun.
There are claymores as proximity mines, and anti-vehicle land mines. There are also far more powerful demolition packs (best infantry weapon in the mp
) that can be remotely detonated.Thanks, Rabbit. That's good to know, the manual lists 'explosives' and I see now the MP listing for claymores, my rookie mistake, RTFM Hah!
MP is away's off for now. I'd be pretty lame right now in MP I'm sure. One day tho.....
MP is away's off for now. I'd be pretty lame right now in MP I'm sure. One day tho.....
it was a very good game. short though. at some parts the graphics sucked and yet my frames still were low. Example was inside the ship at the end.
Bad news:
While I've defended Crysis in this thread, this is pretty pathetic. Basically, it looks like Crytek is going on to the sequel/expansion and completely abandoning Crysis.
Crysis is still a good game, but I don't think I'll be buying Crytek's next product. This pretty much kills any hope of breathing some life into the MP, where the bugs are most obvious. I wonder if the modders will be affected by this.
While I've defended Crysis in this thread, this is pretty pathetic. Basically, it looks like Crytek is going on to the sequel/expansion and completely abandoning Crysis.
Crysis is still a good game, but I don't think I'll be buying Crytek's next product. This pretty much kills any hope of breathing some life into the MP, where the bugs are most obvious. I wonder if the modders will be affected by this.
If you're talking about the *engine*.
Admittedly I have only played multiplayer so far, but I'm not convinced that the art direction is that great. Anyone can build more realistic stuff as long as there's infinite hardware to run it, but realistic isn't the same as good or compelling. There's fun, interesting realistic, and then there's boring, monotonous and done-to-death realistic.
To sum it up, Bad Boys 2 in HD doesn't have "better graphics" than Amélie on VHS.
I play on "High".
No, actually it's bad. There are big usability mistakes that make me cringe every time I die to them. Ones that I haven't seen on other FPSs, even years back.
a) I suspect there will be 'another' patch - it will be in the expansion (I could be wrong).
b) I'm about 70% through my first run and I'm mixed on the game. I actually prefered far cry >>> and (for different reasons) hl2. I find this game somewhat disorienting and don't really like how hte visuals/adds on work. I suppose to a degree it is minor little irrations but because they are irritations rather than 'nifty' I give the game a few negatives.
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Also there are a few irritations with things like when I drop weapons or switch weapons - sometime they vanish (graphically) or I have select it via numbers because scrolling the mouse won't bring it up. Little things like that. Anyways -- for $20 it is fine but glad I did not pay full price
b) I'm about 70% through my first run and I'm mixed on the game. I actually prefered far cry >>> and (for different reasons) hl2. I find this game somewhat disorienting and don't really like how hte visuals/adds on work. I suppose to a degree it is minor little irrations but because they are irritations rather than 'nifty' I give the game a few negatives.
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Also there are a few irritations with things like when I drop weapons or switch weapons - sometime they vanish (graphically) or I have select it via numbers because scrolling the mouse won't bring it up. Little things like that. Anyways -- for $20 it is fine but glad I did not pay full price
Throckmorton
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How does that make sense? They say "We aren't patching but we are making more consistent community support a high priority". Uh... no you're not making it a high priority. Glad I never bought this game. Screw EA and all its underlings.
Neither have I, for the most part. I do have problems with reload, picking up items, everything that has to do with a ladder, melee, weapon customization, weapon grouping, switching fire modes, lack of secondary fire, automatic crouches from both standing and prone, immobility in prone position, weird location-related runspeed slowdowns, weird imprecise feeling while landing from jumps or falling off things.
But when you get down to it, a lot of the nanosuit control could and should be streamlined as well. Stealth is pretty much the only mode that wouldn't be logical to integrate with other functions like switching to melee weapons, or pressing the sprint button. I see both the suit control and weapon customization as stylistic choices, probably serving to add immersiveness in single player, but sabotaging control.
Yes, it does. "Better graphics" is simply a better visual picture. Obviously you know that HD has a higher resolution and better color than VHS. BB2 in HD absolutely has better graphics than Amelie on VHS. The argument you're trying to make is whether one or the other is more visually appealing to the viewer .. and that's subjective. Obviously BB2 is just an explosive action flick and Amelie has some pretty quaint and interesting art direction - but these are opinion based and not fact. I do know what you mean, however. For example, I prefer the graphics of WoW to those AoC simply because I enjoy the more colorful and "fun" cartoon-like graphics of WoW. Having said that, if you're talking about graphic quality (or even ability) Crysis has the top spot, that's just the way it is by technical standards.
m1ldslide1
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Yes, you are correct. I would have corrected this by edit if I had the time before you made your reply. The art direction is of course subjective, and whether you mean the technology (engine), art direction or both when you deem graphics "good" or "bad" also varies.
For the benefit of others, I put "moving" above "realistic". Realistic is great, for telling some particular stories or inducing a particular kind of mood. If you grab a handheld video camera and start shooting, you'll have something more realistic than Crysis or anything, by default. But if you are just shooting the street (and not a particular moment), this is not very interesting. You have to have something of your own to tell, for the people experiencing your content to care.
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