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Just ordered a gang of stuff

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u can see everything else i have in my sig

the 2nd rig has a old 40gig that i am giong to reuse.. and i have another 6800gt oc to put in the new rig as well
 
Originally posted by: drd55
your title sounds nasty
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Where do you get that from? I don't see any profanity or reference to vulgarity in his title. Obviously your opinion has nothing to do with the poster's question - I suggest you take it to PM.
 
I've heard that 2 15A 12 volt rails may not be as good as a single 25+A 12v rail. See the 24 pin sticky.
 
to the OP:

That Fortron Blue Storm you linked to costs $90 at Newegg... 15/15 amps on its two 12V rails, no active PFC. At 50% load its fan spools up to 36 decibels-- Noisy.

You might want to get a better PSU: Seasonic S12-430, 14/15 amps on its two 12V rails, active PFC, and is THE quietest fan-cooled PSU your money can buy. $85 at PC Alchemy.

A PSU superior to the Blue Storm, for a few bucks less to boot.
 
Thank you for answering.. but that one has no PFC and no dual 12v rails?

I'm just befuddled here.. do I need dual 12V rails and active PFC or not???

What one of these 3?
http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104932 active pfc, dual 12v rails, 460watt
http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817182010 no pfc, no dual 12v rails, 550watt
http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104934 passive pfc, dual 12v rails, 500watt

the bold one is the one i have ordered currently.

And this is the one I am currently using.. its been great.. but its also brand new... but can't complain its powered SLI/RAID and everything else in my sig even overclocked so I can't badmouth it!
http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104973 active pfc, no dual 12v rails, 550watt

I thank you for answering but some of these guys are saying its all about active pfc and you are saying go for this rosewill... hmmmmmm

im not canceling my order until i get a reasonable explanation as to why i should switch
thanks i appreciate it really
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
That blue fortron is really nice but in generally dual 12's suck. PFC does'nt do anything for you. It's mainly for the power grid, in europe it's required not in USA.

Read the PSU thread at top why dual 12 bites or this thread http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=29&threadid=1510330&enterthread=y
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Ok I read the thread, maybe Im a moron but it appears either dual rail or single rail will be fine. With single rail being better for higher powered rigs, if the choice came down to it.

But it appears (to me) that either single or dual is fine as long as its quality..?

This rig is going to be my wifes, it will use a 3200+ Winchester, 6800GT OC, cdrom and a dvd, and that DFI Ultra-D.

My rig will remain as it is below, but with a Venice 3200+ overclocked, with that DVD burner and SLI.

I really need to read up on this crap.. I dont know jack about power other than Zippy and Fortron Source are the big names to get.. I've always used those and Enermax.. but leaning towards Fortron after finding out how many PCP&C supplies they actually are ect.


It appears you are correct on the single rail, no pfc 550watt rosewill. But I should be OK with my 500watt dual rail for the wife's rig right?

I mean dual rail on that blue storm wont kill it will it?
Say I put a 4400+ X2 A64 in there someday and a NV50? Gonna ride smoothly?

I read this thread http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=792566 along time ago and figured I was good to go on PSU knowledge for a while. bookmarked as you can see cuz i thought it was so good.

zebo come back!
 
I'd say skip the crystal orb and pick up a different HSF. If you don't plan on overclocking just get the retail CPU with the retail HSF. Otherwise, get a Thermalright XP-120 and skip the BS.
 
ok i read that thread in its entirety.. and i agree iwth you from what i know now..

but then explain why they even made dual rail PSUs?? I'm just confused.

it seems like they shoudlnt even exist

but that explains why my current PSU kicks so much azz, single rail 550watter of FSP quality..
 
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
I'd say skip the crystal orb and pick up a different HSF. If you don't plan on overclocking just get the retail CPU with the retail HSF. Otherwise, get a Thermalright XP-120 and skip the BS.
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i am overclocking the venice. i went with the freezer64 over the xp120 to try something different. results of the freezer64 on prescotts has been phenomenal over at hardocp forums.

a guy here uses one too with exceptional results.. i wanted to get away from the xp120 if i could, i dont like picking a fan.. always get one too damn loud. just want to plug and play.

plus, the heatpipes are larger on the freezer64 than the xp120! hard to believe considering the xp120s popularity but knowing this i have to give it a try.

the arctic cooling unit is a sleeper hit, it really is. worth checking out at the very least alongside the xp120.
plus i kinda like arctic coolings NV silencers..

edit- heres the link that got me curious about Arctic Cooling's cpu coolers: link

and here is the guy who uses the freezer64 on our forums.
 
Why? cause it's cheaper for them to make. Big fat caps cost exponentially more, small one's are cheap.
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
Why? cause it's cheaper for them to make. Big fat caps cost exponentially more, small one's are cheap.
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they act like its a selling point though on newegg when you search for PSUs..
im giong to do some quick thinking on my Blue Storm or the Rosewill you linked..

tough call, from the specs it appears the blue storm is better.. but the rosewill is a single rail unit.... plus its higher wattage which I like, cuz i dont know how much power x2 a64s will require or the next gen of video cards

i dont like getting caught with my pants down with crappy power


edit- honestly it looks like my PSU that im using right now is superior to all of these. link for the same price as the blue storm
 
Of course they do. Cut features and sell the positives. That's the American way bro.

There are some positives in fact like isolation of fans and HD's from IC's on mobo. But that does'nt even work right with modern equipment like Vcards who use molex a connector negating that suposed advantage.


Bottom line is fat, high amp, transducers, caps and inductors cost more, smaller ones dont. So they had to figure out a way to deliver high power req. of todays comps w/o PSUs costing $200. Split the expensive 12V rail is a cheap solution to keep prices down. But it can cause problems for OCers and power users.

Finally there are only about 5 PSU manufactures most there are rebadged by markerting companies, therefore buy on specs and certifications. Fat single 12 is good.
 
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