Just how bad was Gitmo?

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bob4432

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: GarfieldtheCat
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: JD50
I'm sorry but I'm getting a little confused here. Conservatives that critized Obama for wanting to shut down gitmo should hang their heads in shame, but the Democrats that are actually stopping Obama from shutting down gitmo should..........?

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Should hang their hands even further, since they are just playing politics, and not doing what is best for the country. (Something both parties are guilty of probably 99% of the time, IMHO)

Neither party really cares about us, they just want to play their games, keep their personal power by getting re-elected, and try and "beat" the other party. We really don't matter in their games.

Now that's something I can agree with.
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JohnnyGage

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: JohnnyGage
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: Skoorb
And some "Americans" actually condone this.

And call it 'Patriotic' when they do. Disgusting.

Enlighten us on a little history of Omar Khadr and his family before we make such judgements about what we did. Though judgements are needed, lets not forget what this poor Canadian Teenager did and was planning to do.

not a relevant argument

Just pointing out why he's in Gitmo. Phokus would like us to believe that Omar was picked up on the streets of Kabul buying bubble gum. This is hardly the case--he killed one US soldier and left another without an eye. If torture was done in this instance anyone in their right mind including me would be disgusted.
 

JohnnyGage

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Originally posted by: GarfieldtheCat
Originally posted by: JohnnyGage
Originally posted by: GarfieldtheCat
Originally posted by: JohnnyGage
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: Skoorb
And some "Americans" actually condone this.

And call it 'Patriotic' when they do. Disgusting.

Enlighten us on a little history of Omar Khadr and his family before we make such judgements about what we did. Though judgements are needed, lets not forget what this poor Canadian Teenager did and was planning to do.

It's irrelevant what he did (or didn't or was accused of) do. Torture is illegal regardless.

That's why we don't allow murderers and rapists to be beaten up every day when they are in prison, while protecting prisoners with "lesser" crimes.

A person was in our custody. We are required *by law* to treat him a certain way, which doesn't include torture. What that person did has no bearing at all with his treatment. Can you somehow argue differently?

Geez, the lack of thinking by people trying to defend this is truly mind-boggling.

Which law are you speaking of? Murderers and rapists are usually citizens protected under the constitution, he was not a citizen of the US. Geneva convention? He was not a uniformed soldier he is an enemy combatant so the Geneva convention doesn't apply here. If he was tortured then that is wrong, but totally glossing over who this guy is--is wrong as well.

The law applies to all US citizens. Are you somehow saying that murdering illegal aliens is now OK, since they aren't US citizens? Or, if you go 12 miles offshore, outside US waters, you are free to murder someone? I don't think so.

Get it? Torture is illegal. It is illegal for *any* US citizen to torture, anywhere.

Very irrelevant examples. Trust me if you get busted doing anything in foriegn country they are not going to ship you back here for a trial. Yes, torture is illegal and as stated if this is torture people should be arrested but don't hold your breath for that to happen.