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Just got two new toys for my Canon Rebel XT

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Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Not really.. the Pentax lens actually has higher build quality than the Zeiss. Both the Pentax and the Zeiss has far superior image quality to the Canon thirfty fifty. The only difference is that one can be exchanged for $800 cash, and the other can be exchanged for only $50 cash.

So if you overlook the price difference.. then yes.. it's an apples to apples comparison.

No, you aren't. First of all you are comparing a slower lens with a 5 blade aperature (I'm assuming the $800 lens has more, hence the better bokeh) to a faster optically superior lens? And you honestly expect a $50 lens to compare well to an $800 lens? :roll: That's like comparing a Mustang to a Ferrari.
 
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Not really.. the Pentax lens actually has higher build quality than the Zeiss. Both the Pentax and the Zeiss has far superior image quality to the Canon thirfty fifty. The only difference is that one can be exchanged for $800 cash, and the other can be exchanged for only $50 cash.

So if you overlook the price difference.. then yes.. it's an apples to apples comparison.

No, you aren't. First of all you are comparing a slower lens with a 5 blade aperature (I'm assuming the $800 lens has more, hence the better bokeh) to a faster optically superior lens? And you honestly expect a $50 lens to compare well to an $800 lens? :roll: That's like comparing a Mustang to a Ferrari.

Um do you even know about the takumar lenses? You obviously don't, since the takmar lens I posted has an 8blade aperture, and in fact, Mike Johnston at Sunday Morning Photographer who has used every friggen 50mm out there says the Pentax has the best bokeh he has ever seen. And yes the takumar lenses has better build quality than newer zeiss lens. The older zeiss lens, however, destroys all in build quality.
The takumar lens is only so cheap because it's 35 yrs old, and is on a dead mount(m42 screwmount). A japanese engineer actually says that if the takumar lens was sold today, it would sell for $1200-1500. That's more than $800. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: SaigonK
Finally got off my arse and got these two!

Paid about $500+ for them both, but well worth it!
I have the 18-55 kit lens, but it doesnt have the 1.8 aperture I want to do some speed shots at hockey games, etc.

of course it is a fixed 50mm lens so it has its purpose but nothing else outside of that.

Will post some test photos of the 50mm and the new lens in action!

a 50mm taking sports shots will be pretty hard, you will probably want a 100mm++ lens to take sports shots. goodluck.

edit:

here are three shots of hockey I took with a Canon 20D + Canon 70-200.
1
2
3
 
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Not really.. the Pentax lens actually has higher build quality than the Zeiss. Both the Pentax and the Zeiss has far superior image quality to the Canon thirfty fifty. The only difference is that one can be exchanged for $800 cash, and the other can be exchanged for only $50 cash.

So if you overlook the price difference.. then yes.. it's an apples to apples comparison.

No, you aren't. First of all you are comparing a slower lens with a 5 blade aperature (I'm assuming the $800 lens has more, hence the better bokeh) to a faster optically superior lens? And you honestly expect a $50 lens to compare well to an $800 lens? :roll: That's like comparing a Mustang to a Ferrari.

Um do you even know about the takumar lenses? You obviously don't, since the takmar lens I posted has an 8blade aperture, and in fact, Mike Johnston at Sunday Morning Photographer who has used every friggen 50mm out there says the Pentax has the best bokeh he has ever seen. And yes the takumar lenses has better build quality than newer zeiss lens. The older zeiss lens, however, destroys all in build quality.
The takumar lens is only so cheap because it's 35 yrs old, and is on a dead mount(m42 screwmount). A japanese engineer actually says that if the takumar lens was sold today, it would sell for $1200-1500. That's more than $800. :roll:


you know whats funny, Zeiss is gonna start makeing lenses for the nikon F mount 😀
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0601/06011801zeisslensesnikon.asp
 
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Not really.. the Pentax lens actually has higher build quality than the Zeiss. Both the Pentax and the Zeiss has far superior image quality to the Canon thirfty fifty. The only difference is that one can be exchanged for $800 cash, and the other can be exchanged for only $50 cash.

So if you overlook the price difference.. then yes.. it's an apples to apples comparison.

No, you aren't. First of all you are comparing a slower lens with a 5 blade aperature (I'm assuming the $800 lens has more, hence the better bokeh) to a faster optically superior lens? And you honestly expect a $50 lens to compare well to an $800 lens? :roll: That's like comparing a Mustang to a Ferrari.

Um do you even know about the takumar lenses? You obviously don't, since the takmar lens I posted has an 8blade aperture, and in fact, Mike Johnston at Sunday Morning Photographer who has used every friggen 50mm out there says the Pentax has the best bokeh he has ever seen. And yes the takumar lenses has better build quality than newer zeiss lens. The older zeiss lens, however, destroys all in build quality.
The takumar lens is only so cheap because it's 35 yrs old, and is on a dead mount(m42 screwmount). A japanese engineer actually says that if the takumar lens was sold today, it would sell for $1200-1500. That's more than $800. :roll:


you know whats funny, Zeiss is gonna start makeing lenses for the nikon F mount 😀
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0601/06011801zeisslensesnikon.asp

They're making it for the pentax M42 screwmount too 😉
 
Originally posted by: PHiuR
Originally posted by: SaigonK
Finally got off my arse and got these two!

Paid about $500+ for them both, but well worth it!
I have the 18-55 kit lens, but it doesnt have the 1.8 aperture I want to do some speed shots at hockey games, etc.

of course it is a fixed 50mm lens so it has its purpose but nothing else outside of that.

Will post some test photos of the 50mm and the new lens in action!

a 50mm taking sports shots will be pretty hard, you will probably want a 100mm++ lens to take sports shots. goodluck.

edit:

here are three shots of hockey I took with a Canon 20D + Canon 70-200.
1
2
3



Whats the specs on that lens? Max aperture, etc?
 
Originally posted by: unsped
1.8 is a nice lense i had one on my rebel, great for natural light photos indoors at night.
No offense, as this is a serious question, I'm trying to learn all I can about photography. But how in the hell can you take natural light photos at night? Wouldn't natural light be the sun, which would in effect not go together with the nighttime?
 
Originally posted by: blurredvision
Originally posted by: unsped
1.8 is a nice lense i had one on my rebel, great for natural light photos indoors at night.
No offense, as this is a serious question, I'm trying to learn all I can about photography. But how in the hell can you take natural light photos at night? Wouldn't natural light be the sun, which would in effect not go together with the nighttime?

He said natural light photos indoors, meaning whatever light is on to light the room, not necessarily the sun.
 
Originally posted by: PHiuR
Originally posted by: SaigonK
Finally got off my arse and got these two!

Paid about $500+ for them both, but well worth it!
I have the 18-55 kit lens, but it doesnt have the 1.8 aperture I want to do some speed shots at hockey games, etc.

of course it is a fixed 50mm lens so it has its purpose but nothing else outside of that.

Will post some test photos of the 50mm and the new lens in action!

a 50mm taking sports shots will be pretty hard, you will probably want a 100mm++ lens to take sports shots. goodluck.

edit:

here are three shots of hockey I took with a Canon 20D + Canon 70-200.
1
2
3

A 50mm lens is fine for indoor sports if you're on the sidelines. For sports like basketball/volleyball and maybe hockey (I haven't shot hockey before, so I can't really say) you are very close to the action, so fast 50mm and 85mm primes can be very useful.
 
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: blurredvision
Originally posted by: unsped
1.8 is a nice lense i had one on my rebel, great for natural light photos indoors at night.
No offense, as this is a serious question, I'm trying to learn all I can about photography. But how in the hell can you take natural light photos at night? Wouldn't natural light be the sun, which would in effect not go together with the nighttime?
He said natural light photos indoors, meaning whatever light is on to light the room, not necessarily the sun.
Well that's not considered natural light, then.
 
Originally posted by: blurredvision
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: blurredvision
Originally posted by: unsped
1.8 is a nice lense i had one on my rebel, great for natural light photos indoors at night.
No offense, as this is a serious question, I'm trying to learn all I can about photography. But how in the hell can you take natural light photos at night? Wouldn't natural light be the sun, which would in effect not go together with the nighttime?
He said natural light photos indoors, meaning whatever light is on to light the room, not necessarily the sun.
Well that's not considered natural light, then.

Natural lighting meaning natural to the environment, and not a flash...
 
Originally posted by: unsped
any reason for spending 200 dollars more for a 580, than a 420?
The 430ex replaces and is much better than the 420ex. The Sigma EF 500 DG Super is a good alternative to the 580ex.
 
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: blurredvision
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: blurredvision
Originally posted by: unsped
1.8 is a nice lense i had one on my rebel, great for natural light photos indoors at night.
No offense, as this is a serious question, I'm trying to learn all I can about photography. But how in the hell can you take natural light photos at night? Wouldn't natural light be the sun, which would in effect not go together with the nighttime?
He said natural light photos indoors, meaning whatever light is on to light the room, not necessarily the sun.
Well that's not considered natural light, then.

Natural lighting meaning natural to the environment, and not a flash...

yep, natural just implys that you arnt bringing in any lights yourself, be it strobes or hotlights
 
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