Just got this retarded forwarded email regarding Pepsi **NM, I suck, it's a HOAX**

KeyserSoze

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Has anyone else gotten this?

Subject: TO DRINK OR NOT TO DRINK
To drink or not to drink? Pepsi has a new patriotic can coming out with
pictures of the Empire State Building and the Pledge of Allegiance on
them. But Pepsi forgot two little words on the pledge, "Under God."
Pepsi said they did not want to offend anyone. If this is true then
we do not want to offend anyone at the Pepsi corporate office.
If we do not buy any Pepsi products then they will not receive any
of our monies. Our money, after all, does have the words "Under God"
on it. If you agree with this policy, please pass this word to everyone
you know. Pepsi doesn't have the right to rewrite the Pledge Of Allegiance!!

If you do not agree, just erase this message.


And I call it retarded because there are other things in this world that concern me more than the pledge of allegiance. (Even back when it was in the Supreme Court.) I HATE stupid forwards.


EDIT: Hoax Link @ Snopes.Com


And if you are one of those die-hard people that think "Under God" should have been included in the Pledge, listen. I was/am fine with it EITHER WAY. I didn't care when it WAS in the pledge, and I don't care that it was TAKEN OUT. It's all the same, and it NEVER bothered me.




KeyserSoze
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: KeyserSoze

And I call it retarded because there are other things in this world that concern me more than the pledge of allegiance. (Even back when it was in the Supreme Court.) I HATE stupid forwards.


And if you are one of those die-hard people that think "Under God" should have been included in the Pledge, listen. I was/am fine with it EITHER WAY. I didn't care when it WAS in the pledge, and I don't care that it was TAKEN OUT. It's all the same, and it NEVER bothered me.




KeyserSoze

Thank you, sir.
 

pyonir

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If pepsi is cheaper, i'll be drinking it. I could care less what it says on the can.
 

Jzero

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Our money, after all, does have the words "Under God"
on it.
I dunno what kind of funny money these stooges are talking about, but I can't find any US currency that says "Under God" on it.
 

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I would rather the "under God" was included because I believe it can be incorporated to included every religion (even atheism) but that's another store.

But, my dad works at Tropicana (and I used to work under them), and Trop is owned by Pepsi.. So, I'll be loyal to Pepsi.
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: brxndxn
I would rather the "under God" was included because I believe it can be incorporated to included every religion (even atheism) but that's another store.

But, my dad works at Tropicana (and I used to work under them), and Trop is owned by Pepsi.. So, I'll be loyal to Pepsi.

How can "Under God" work for atheism if atheism by definition implies that there is NO god?
 

KeyserSoze

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: brxndxn
I would rather the "under God" was included because I believe it can be incorporated to included every religion (even atheism) but that's another store.

But, my dad works at Tropicana (and I used to work under them), and Trop is owned by Pepsi.. So, I'll be loyal to Pepsi.

How can "Under God" work for atheism if atheism by definition implies that there is NO god?


Nice, the brewings of a religion flame war! :p

Haha, just kidding. SURE, I could have just erased it, but then I couldn't b!tch about it!



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KC5AV

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It was Dr. Pepper that printed the cans, and it was right after the World Trade Center attack. There was quite a bit of backlash against Dr. Pepper, but it's a thing of the past.
 

ATLien247

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Originally posted by: pyonir
If pepsi is cheaper, i'll be drinking it. I could care less what it says on the can.

Even if there's a surgeon general's warning on it that says drinking Pepsi causes impotence?
 

Jzero

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Nice, the brewings of a religion flame war! :p

Haha, just kidding. SURE, I could have just erased it, but then I couldn't b!tch about it!

We haven't had a nice toasty YART in quite awhile! :D
 

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The Pledge of Allegiance
A Short History

Francis Bellamy (1855 - 1931), a Baptist minister, wrote the original Pledge in August 1892. He was a Christian Socialist. In his Pledge, he is expressing the ideas of his first cousin, Edward Bellamy, author of the American socialist utopian novels, Looking Backward (1888) and Equality (1897).

Francis Bellamy in his sermons and lectures and Edward Bellamy in his novels and articles described in detail how the middle class could create a planned economy with political, social and economic equality for all. The government would run a peace time economy similar to our present military industrial complex.

The Pledge was published in the September 8th issue of The Youth's Companion, the leading family magazine and the Reader's Digest of its day. Its owner and editor, Daniel Ford, had hired Francis in 1891 as his assistant when Francis was pressured into leaving his baptist church in Boston because of his socialist sermons. As a member of his congregation, Ford had enjoyed Francis's sermons. Ford later founded the liberal and often controversial Ford Hall Forum, located in downtown Boston.

In 1892 Francis Bellamy was also a chairman of a committee of state superintendents of education in the National Education Association. As its chairman, he prepared the program for the public schools' quadricentennial celebration for Columbus Day in 1892. He structured this public school program around a flag raising ceremony and a flag salute - his 'Pledge of Allegiance.'

His original Pledge read as follows: 'I pledge allegiance to my Flag and (to*) the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.' He considered placing the word, 'equality,' in his Pledge, but knew that the state superintendents of education on his committee were against equality for women and African Americans. [ * 'to' added in October, 1892. ]

Dr. Mortimer Adler, American philosopher and last living founder of the Great Books program at Saint John's College, has analyzed these ideas in his book, The Six Great Ideas. He argues that the three great ideas of the American political tradition are 'equality, liberty and justice for all.' 'Justice' mediates between the often conflicting goals of 'liberty' and 'equality.'

In 1923 and 1924 the National Flag Conference, under the 'leadership of the American Legion and the Daughters of the American Revolution, changed the Pledge's words, 'my Flag,' to 'the Flag of the United States of America.' Bellamy disliked this change, but his protest was ignored.

In 1954, Congress after a campaign by the Knights of Columbus, added the words, 'under God,' to the Pledge. The Pledge was now both a patriotic oath and a public prayer.

Bellamy's granddaughter said he also would have resented this second change. He had been pressured into leaving his church in 1891 because of his socialist sermons. In his retirement in Florida, he stopped attending church because he disliked the racial bigotry he found there.

What follows is Bellamy's own account of some of the thoughts that went through his mind in August, 1892, as he picked the words of his Pledge:

It began as an intensive communing with salient points of our national history, from the Declaration of Independence onwards; with the makings of the Constitution...with the meaning of the Civil War; with the aspiration of the people...

The true reason for allegiance to the Flag is the 'republic for which it stands.' ...And what does that vast thing, the Republic mean? It is the concise political word for the Nation - the One Nation which the Civil War was fought to prove. To make that One Nation idea clear, we must specify that it is indivisible, as Webster and Lincoln used to repeat in their great speeches. And its future?

Just here arose the temptation of the historic slogan of the French Revolution which meant so much to Jefferson and his friends, 'Liberty, equality, fraternity.' No, that would be too fanciful, too many thousands of years off in realization. But we as a nation do stand square on the doctrine of liberty and justice for all...

If the Pledge's historical pattern repeats, its words will be modified during this decade. Below are two possible changes.

Some prolife advocates recite the following slightly revised Pledge: 'I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all, born and unborn.'

A few liberals recite a slightly revised version of Bellamy's original Pledge: 'I pledge allegiance to my Flag, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with equality, liberty and justice for all.'

by Dr. John W. Baer