just got promoted

bignateyk

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The bad kind of promotion. The kind of promotion that involves more responsiblity, for the same amount of money.

I've been cruising along under the radar for the last year, doing just fine, and the other week my boss gave me some new stuff to work on, and apparently I impressed some people a little too much. So my boss asks me to stick around after a meeting, and tells me that "To be frank, the work you've been doing lately should make some of the people who have been here for years feel ashamed. I want you to take over and be the go-to guy for such and such a project"

me: <doh> "uh, ok, sure"

For the last year, i've been having a blast. I've basically had NO responsiblity, but at the same time, I was doing good work. Now I have more responsibility than people who have been here for 10 years.
 

bignateyk

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Originally posted by: Maximus96
ask for raise?

It's a university job under a government contract. All raises are based off of number of years, your degree, inflation, etc...

The only way I could get a substantial raise is to leave, get a big salary somewhere else, and come back and get my salary matched (which I had planned on doing in a year or so).
 

Blieb

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Eh ... it'll be good for you ... won't be wasting away as much.

Could have been worse, you could have been promoted to customer.
 

XxPrOdiGyxX

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Originally posted by: bignateyk
The bad kind of promotion. The kind of promotion that involves more responsiblity, for the same amount of money.

I've been cruising along under the radar for the last year, doing just fine, and the other week my boss gave me some new stuff to work on, and apparently I impressed some people a little too much. So my boss asks me to stick around after a meeting, and tells me that "To be frank, the work you've been doing lately should make some of the people who have been here for years feel ashamed. I want you to take over and be the go-to guy for such and such a project"

me: <doh> "uh, ok, sure"

For the last year, i've been having a blast. I've basically had NO responsiblity, but at the same time, I was doing good work. Now I have more responsibility than people who have been here for 10 years.

Maybe you don't get the big bucks now but the experience will be something you can highlight and bring to your next job and get paid then. Don't shy away from it just because you might not be compensated immediately. If it's not, ultimately, inline with your career goals then i'd say leave
 

darkxshade

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Originally posted by: bignateyk
To be frank, the work you've been doing lately should make some of the people who have been here for years feel ashamed.

Oh how little does your boss know that they probably feel quite proud of themselves for dodging responsibility. :D
 

bignateyk

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
It's worth it to help you make the big dollars on your next job.

Yeah. I just don't like the idea of being held accountable if someone else fucks up. Before, as long as I was getting my share of work done, everything was fine. If someone else fucked something up, not my problem. Now i'm responsible for my own stuff, plus everyone elses.

Before my boss would ask a question like "Has X and Y been finished yet", and I could answer "Beats me, check with so and so." Then pop my browser open and continue neffing in peace.
 

Svnla

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Originally posted by: bignateyk
Originally posted by: Maximus96
ask for raise?

It's a university job under a government contract. All raises are based off of number of years, your degree, inflation, etc...

The only way I could get a substantial raise is to leave, get a big salary somewhere else, and come back and get my salary matched (which I had planned on doing in a year or so).

Ask for other benefits such as money for seminars/classes to expanse your knowledge/marketablity...or flex work schedule or more sick time..etc.

Don't be a chump = more work/responsibility = same pay
 

bignateyk

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Apr 22, 2002
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Originally posted by: Svnla
Originally posted by: bignateyk
Originally posted by: Maximus96
ask for raise?

It's a university job under a government contract. All raises are based off of number of years, your degree, inflation, etc...

The only way I could get a substantial raise is to leave, get a big salary somewhere else, and come back and get my salary matched (which I had planned on doing in a year or so).

Ask for other benefits such as money for seminars/classes to expanse your knowledge/marketablity...or flex work schedule or more sick time..etc.

Don't be a chump = more work/responsibility = same pay

Well, I already get free classes, 7 weeks of vacation, unofficial flex time, and 3 weeks sick a year. There's not much more in the benefits category I could ask for. All of the benefits are standard university benefits anway. There's really nothing I can do short of leaving that will get me more $$, and I have no intention of doing that for at least another year and a half.
 

ColdFusion718

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Originally posted by: bignateyk
Originally posted by: Svnla
Originally posted by: bignateyk
Originally posted by: Maximus96
ask for raise?

It's a university job under a government contract. All raises are based off of number of years, your degree, inflation, etc...

The only way I could get a substantial raise is to leave, get a big salary somewhere else, and come back and get my salary matched (which I had planned on doing in a year or so).

Ask for other benefits such as money for seminars/classes to expanse your knowledge/marketablity...or flex work schedule or more sick time..etc.

Don't be a chump = more work/responsibility = same pay

Well, I already get free classes, 7 weeks of vacation, unofficial flex time, and 3 weeks sick a year. There's not much more in the benefits category I could ask for. All of the benefits are standard university benefits anway. There's really nothing I can do short of leaving that will get me more $$, and I have no intention of doing that for at least another year and a half.

Damn!! Seven weeks of vacation? What is it that you do anyway?
 

MaxDepth

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If he can be Frank, then you can be Earl...I hate when someone says "to be frank" or "in all honesty," it means they've not been honest or up front with you before? <shakes head>

Here is what you can do. I believe the inverse of the saying, great power comes with great responsibility, is also true. Tell your boss that to be his "go-to" guy, you must be able to pick and choose whom you can offload some menial tasks. You must be able to do the hard stuff without being tagged to do the crap work.

In other words, you need the ability to offload things to people of your choosing. Otherwise, you risk not being able to meet these new demands. Hinting to your boss that great things can happen only if you can be given greater decision making abilities. Paint him a picture of what the words "epic fail" can mean to him.

If you get this greater power, then remember to add it your resume. Project leads or architects carry greater earning potential than a grunty who does good work.
 

ultimatebob

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
"go-to guy"
D'oh!
you are doomed, good luck

Yeah... you NEVER want to the "go-to guy" in IT. The "go-to guy" usually ends up working late hours and weekends fixing things that the other employees broke.

And don't think that this all of this extra work will get you promoted, either... at least I've never seen that work that way in my experience. The worker bees usually get stuck in dead end jobs while the folks who foist all of their work onto other people get promoted to management.

Corporate America... gotta love it!
 

LS21

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Originally posted by: MaxDepth
If cen be Frank, then you can be Earl...I hate when someone says "to be frank" or "in all honesty," it means they've not been honest or up front with you before? <shakes head>

Shirley you cant be that upset