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EricMartello

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I started a very basic, but informative, post about my Radeon X1900XTX and the system built around it. :D Check it out if you are thinkin about it...SLI power in one card...now that is a selling point if you ask me. :D
 
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Ackmed

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Well, the XTX is not as fast as a SLI system in a lot of games. In some, it can be faster than 2xGT's, but its not always the case. Its a great card no doubt, but that blanket statement is not right. Sometimes its faster, sometimes its not.

Unless you're talking about 2x6600GT's...
 
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nRollo

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LOL

Love getting performance from a single card that was only recently possible by running two 7800GTX's in SLI...a $1500 proposition.[/L]

If you're talking about two 512s, they beat a single XTX pretty easily.
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imported_Aelius

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You do realize that the X2 4800+ is just a waste of cash.

You could have purchased an X2 4200+ 2.2 and OCed it to 2.6 without any trouble what so ever.
 
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otispunkmeyer

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Originally posted by: Rollo
LOL

Love getting performance from a single card that was only recently possible by running two 7800GTX's in SLI...a $1500 proposition.[/L]

If you're talking about two 512s, they beat a single XTX pretty easily.
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this dudes got the red mist, how can you be that deluded.

the X1900XTX is roughly round the performance of 7800GT's like ackmed says. any higher and it gets beat, which is what you would expect. still its an awesome card to be able to keep 2 7800GTs honest all by itself.

the only time your statement could hold some water is that during normal game play 99% of the people will not be able to tell the difference in speed. X1900XTX is insanely fast, 7800GTX 512 SLI more so.
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EricMartello

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The way I see it is a 7800GTX costs $750, and is about as good as a radeon x1800 which can be had for $500 or so...in fact, the x1800 outdoes the 7800GTX in benches with the new 5.13 driver so it is the better card. The only current offering from nvidia that can hang with the x1900xtx is the 7800GTX SLI...which costs $1500, vs the $600 for the 1900xtx. Obviously, the SLI setup is going to be a bit faster...but to be fair, the x1900 is a newer generation so...what ya gonna do. The bottom line is I wanted to play FEAR at full 1600x1200 with all effects maxed out...before the x1900 my only option was the 7800GTX SLI. Thanks to this new card, I no longer need two to play this game at full res and enjoy it. :)

As far as the 4800+ being a waste of money...I dont think so. I was not planning to O/C because silence and system stability are my top priorities. It was the fastest X2 processor with a reasonable price tag. The FX60 is a bit too steep at ~$1200. The A8N32 is a shockingly stable MB and O/Cing my 4800+ to 2.6 was easily doable with stock cooling and voltages. It may be able to hit 2.8 but I have not tried it yet.
 
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otispunkmeyer

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Originally posted by: EricMartello
The way I see it is a 7800GTX costs $750, and is about as good as a radeon x1800 which can be had for $500 or so...in fact, the x1800 outdoes the 7800GTX in benches with the new 5.13 driver so it is the better card. The only current offering from nvidia that can hang with the x1900xtx is the 7800GTX SLI...which costs $1500, vs the $600 for the 1900xtx. Obviously, the SLI setup is going to be a bit faster...but to be fair, the x1900 is a newer generation so...what ya gonna do. The bottom line is I wanted to play FEAR at full 1600x1200 with all effects maxed out...before the x1900 my only option was the 7800GTX SLI. Thanks to this new card, I no longer need two to play this game at full res and enjoy it. :)

As far as the 4800+ being a waste of money...I dont think so. I was not planning to O/C because silence and system stability are my top priorities. It was the fastest X2 processor with a reasonable price tag. The FX60 is a bit too steep at ~$1200. The A8N32 is a shockingly stable MB and O/Cing my 4800+ to 2.6 was easily doable with stock cooling and voltages. It may be able to hit 2.8 but I have not tried it yet.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150100

$469 x 2 = 1500 (you said GTX not GTX 512 :p 2xGTX is more than a match anyway)

nice maths. but still its over $300 more, and i doubt most people would be able to tell the difference, so wether your getting 300 bux extra performance is questionable.

if you could afford the 4800+ then more power to you, its your money you spend it how you wish. the more frugal among us would of plugged for the 4200 thats all.

enjoy that beast of a machine, i hope you lined it with 2gig of ram :p
 
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nRollo

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Originally posted by: EricMartello
The way I see it is a 7800GTX costs $750, and is about as good as a radeon x1800 which can be had for $500 or so...in fact, the x1800 outdoes the 7800GTX in benches with the new 5.13 driver so it is the better card. The only current offering from nvidia that can hang with the x1900xtx is the 7800GTX SLI...which costs $1500, vs the $600 for the 1900xtx. Obviously, the SLI setup is going to be a bit faster...but to be fair, the x1900 is a newer generation so...what ya gonna do. The bottom line is I wanted to play FEAR at full 1600x1200 with all effects maxed out...before the x1900 my only option was the 7800GTX SLI. Thanks to this new card, I no longer need two to play this game at full res and enjoy it. :)
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Boy are you deluded.

I notice no links to benchmarks to back up your statements, so I guess we're supposed to take your word for it?
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EricMartello

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Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150100

$469 x 2 = 1500 (you said GTX not GTX 512 :p 2xGTX is more than a match anyway)

nice maths. but still its over $300 more, and i doubt most people would be able to tell the difference, so wether your getting 300 bux extra performance is questionable.

if you could afford the 4800+ then more power to you, its your money you spend it how you wish. the more frugal among us would of plugged for the 4200 thats all.

enjoy that beast of a machine, i hope you lined it with 2gig of ram :p
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I am talking about the 512MB version, but the 2 x 7800 GTX 256MB you are linking to are still $938 which is still a bit much just for the video subsystem. :) My point is, that you you do need an SLI setup from nvidia to hang with the x1900xtx - maybe the 7900 will change that, but till then... :D

Just to be clear, I'm no ATI fanboy. I was all set to buy a pair of 256MB GTX's till I saw the 1900xtx. It's not just $300 in price that I save, but also savings on my electric bill as well as reduced system heat and noise. Yes, I am running 2 gigs of corsair twinx-3500LL...u can see the specs in the link I provided in my first post, as well as some benchmarks.
 
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EricMartello

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: EricMartello
The way I see it is a 7800GTX costs $750, and is about as good as a radeon x1800 which can be had for $500 or so...in fact, the x1800 outdoes the 7800GTX in benches with the new 5.13 driver so it is the better card. The only current offering from nvidia that can hang with the x1900xtx is the 7800GTX SLI...which costs $1500, vs the $600 for the 1900xtx. Obviously, the SLI setup is going to be a bit faster...but to be fair, the x1900 is a newer generation so...what ya gonna do. The bottom line is I wanted to play FEAR at full 1600x1200 with all effects maxed out...before the x1900 my only option was the 7800GTX SLI. Thanks to this new card, I no longer need two to play this game at full res and enjoy it. :)
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Boy are you deluded.

I notice no links to benchmarks to back up your statements, so I guess we're supposed to take your word for it?
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I did some quick benches and posted the results in the link found on my first post.

I just did a quick run of 3DMark 2005 with the following settings:

1600x1200
4xAA
8xAF

Result: 7,460

Compare to a 7800GTX 256MB SLI with the same settings:

Result: 10,325

http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=830&pageID=1739

 
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Uhhhh..
I have several pc's in our home and i can say FOR SURE dual 7800GTs in SLI are faster than my X1900XTX.

So theres no doubt in my mind that a 512mb or 256mb 7800GTX Sli setups are even faster.


As of right now, you can purchase two 7800GTs "new" for around $600.00
And a X1900XTX for around $550.00

So i'd say say price/performance wise they are both priced competetively with each other.

Honestly, if you asked me which to buy between 7800GTs in SLI or the X1900XTX, i'd have a rough time giving you a definitive answer, i think both setups are good deals!
 
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nRollo

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Originally posted by: MTDEW
As of right now, you can purchase two 7800GTs "new" for around $600.00
And a X1900XTX for around $550.00

So i'd say say price/performance wise they are both priced competetively with each other.
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Especially when you consider 7800GT SLI now can be had for $558 after one $20 MIR.
 
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Except 6 months down the line the SLI guy will have to ditch his cards and buy 2 more again. The guy with an XTX can throw in a master card and be set for another 6 months. SLI vs a single card is apples to oranges, even when taking price into account. It's unfortunate nVidia needs 2 cards now just to compete against ATi's single card. :( Too bad the 512 GTX Phantom Edition is in such short supply and high priced.
 
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nRollo

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Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Except 6 months down the line the SLI guy will have to ditch his cards and buy 2 more again. The guy with an XTX can throw in a master card and be set for another 6 months. SLI vs a single card is apples to oranges, even when taking price into account. It's unfortunate nVidia needs 2 cards now just to compete against ATi's single card. :( Too bad the 512 GTX Phantom Edition is in such short supply and high priced.
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A Dr. in training complaining about the price of something? :confused:
Afraid that 512GTX will set you back a few minutes wages 5150? :)
 
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EricMartello

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Excuse me if I veer off course here, but is ATI's crossfire dependent upon the MB chipset or could I get a x1900 crossfire, put it into the empty PCIE x16 slot on my A832N and enjoy a little boost?
 
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Originally posted by: EricMartello
Excuse me if I veer off course here, but is ATI's crossfire dependent upon the MB chipset or could I get a x1900 crossfire, put it into the empty PCIE x16 slot on my A832N and enjoy a little boost?
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It'd dependent on Ati's crossfire MB chipset meaning you'll need Xfire board to run it.
 
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nRollo

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Originally posted by: EricMartello
Excuse me if I veer off course here, but is ATI's crossfire dependent upon the MB chipset or could I get a x1900 crossfire, put it into the empty PCIE x16 slot on my A832N and enjoy a little boost?
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No that's one of the disadvantages of ATI Multicard. They have not figured out 2X16 boards like you have yet. :(

 
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flexy

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Sometimes its faster, sometimes its not.
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which is WAY enough and basically confirms what the OP says, doesn't it ?
 
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