Just got my Pre-Order Confirmation for PS Vita!

[SunnyD]

Let me know when it's jailbroken and I can use it to run a SNES emu.

 

[finbarqs]

maybe because they don't want the modding community to alter the platform? heh... The Xperia Play is a full blown android phone, which I'm sure, is not problem to mod

 

[Tom]

When the PSP came out it had one competitor, the DS. And it pretty much failed.

By Christmas there will be an iphone5, maybe a new ipod touch, a $100 retail price on the DS Lite, a $200 3DS, the ipad 2, many new Android tablets probably selling for $300, new Android phones, the Nook, maybe a new Kindle that plays games..

What is the reason the average person would buy this ?

 

[Imported]

When the PSP came out it had one competitor, the DS. And it pretty much failed.

By Christmas there will be an iphone5, maybe a new ipod touch, a $100 retail price on the DS Lite, a $200 3DS, the ipad 2, many new Android tablets probably selling for $300, new Android phones, the Nook, maybe a new Kindle that plays games..

What is the reason the average person would buy this ?

I don't like touchscreen gaming, so that tosses out everything but the DS Lite and 3DS. I already have a DS Lite (as does probably half of America it seems) and the 3DS doesn't interest me at all.

 

[Ross Ridge]

When the PSP came out it had one competitor, the DS. And it pretty much failed.

By comparison to the Nintendo DS, everything is failure as a gaming platform. The iPhone, the Wii, the Xbox 360 and the PlayStation 3 don't come close in terms of hardware and software sales. I'm not sure what the software numbers are like but the PSP actually has similar hardware sales to the 360 and PS3.

By Christmas there will be an iphone5, maybe a new ipod touch, a $100 retail price on the DS Lite, a $200 3DS, the ipad 2, many new Android tablets probably selling for $300, new Android phones, the Nook, maybe a new Kindle that plays games.

What is the reason the average person would buy this ?

Why would the average person buy anything you mentioned to play games? Seriously. A $600 iPhone isn't something the average person owns. The DS Lite is more likely to be discontinued. You're only going to see at $100 as part of a clearance sale. The 3DS isn't coming down in price any time soon and only has one game worth buying so far. The iPad 2 again is too expensive for the average person. Android phones might become a relevent gaming platform, but Andriod tablets, or any of those e-readers? They don't stand much of chance at all.

After the disappointing launch of the Nintendo 3DS the Sony Vita is the most promising and most exciting gaming platform right now. The iPhone 5 wil be more of the same, and it's imitators just lame copies. A lot is going to depend on the actual games available for the platform, but Sony has crammed a lot of drool worthy hardware into an affordable package. The Vita puts Nintendo and especially Apple, to shame.

 

[Aikouka]

Why would the average person buy anything you mentioned to play games? Seriously. A $600 iPhone isn't something the average person owns. ... Android phones might become a relevent gaming platform

Why did you exclude the iPhone because of it's unsubsidized price? You know the good Android phones that could play decent games cost just about as much unsubsidized? They all cost about as much subsidized (~$200).

If the proliferation of Unreal Engine 3 in the console space is any indicator, Android would benefit greatly from EPIC reversing their decision to not port UE3 to Android (it's currently on iOS).

 

[Ross Ridge]

Why did you exclude the iPhone because of it's unsubsidized price?

Because its "subsidized" price, with a three year contract, ends up being even more unaffordable for the average person.

As for Android, as already I said, it isn't relevent yet as gaming platform. The average gamer isn't going to be interested in these phones regardless of the price.

 

[badb0y]

You know the good Android phones that could play decent games cost just about as much unsubsidized?

Lol'd nice joke.

 

[niks000]

I heard from ebay that I will receive it before 6th of January. I will be so happy to hold it my hands. Eagerly waiting for January !

 

[Tom]

By comparison to the Nintendo DS, everything is failure as a gaming platform. The iPhone, the Wii, the Xbox 360 and the PlayStation 3 don't come close in terms of hardware and software sales. I'm not sure what the software numbers are like but the PSP actually has similar hardware sales to the 360 and PS3.



Why would the average person buy anything you mentioned to play games? Seriously. A $600 iPhone isn't something the average person owns. The DS Lite is more likely to be discontinued. You're only going to see at $100 as part of a clearance sale. The 3DS isn't coming down in price any time soon and only has one game worth buying so far. The iPad 2 again is too expensive for the average person. Android phones might become a relevent gaming platform, but Andriod tablets, or any of those e-readers? They don't stand much of chance at all.

After the disappointing launch of the Nintendo 3DS the Sony Vita is the most promising and most exciting gaming platform right now. The iPhone 5 wil be more of the same, and it's imitators just lame copies. A lot is going to depend on the actual games available for the platform, but Sony has crammed a lot of drool worthy hardware into an affordable package. The Vita puts Nintendo and especially Apple, to shame.

First of all, Nintendo won't stop making DS Lites, unless they lower the DSi price to $100 and sell that instead. They make a fortune on DS game sales and can easily sell another 100 million DS systems for $100 and make big profits.

The iphone( or ipod Touch) costs consumers about $150-200, that's less than the Vita. And it's a helluva lot more useful, and has a billion games available.

Look at the PSP. It has NO games that have mass market appeal. Go to a Target or Walmart and look at the games they have for the PSP. I know from personal experience because my granddaughter just got a PSP and there's almost nothing for her to buy for it.

Given Sony's track record with the PSP, the Move, and even the PS3, I don't see any reason to think the Vita will have a decent games library that appeals to the mass market, at least in the USA.

 

[Ross Ridge]

First of all, Nintendo won't stop making DS Lites, unless they lower the DSi price to $100 and sell that instead. They make a fortune on DS game sales and can easily sell another 100 million DS systems for $100 and make big profits.

Well, no. The Nintendo DS Lite has already been dropped in price to $100 in the US, and no one noticed. Gamestop has already stopped stocking it. It won't last until Christmas. Nintendo will be lucky to sell another 10 million DS systems. They're not going to drop the DSi to $100 until they're ready clear that out as well.

The iphone( or ipod Touch) costs consumers about $150-200, that's less than the Vita. And it's a helluva lot more useful, and has a billion games available.

So, if it's really that cheap, are you planning on buying an iPhone 5 for your granddaughter for Christmas? Or would the three year contract push it outside of your price range?

Look at the PSP. It has NO games that have mass market appeal. Go to a Target or Walmart and look at the games they have for the PSP. I know from personal experience because my granddaughter just got a PSP and there's almost nothing for her to buy for it.

There's lots of games with mass market appeal available for sale at Target and Walmart for the PSP. For little girls? No, despite the existance of Hannah Montana lilac coloured PSP, there's not much that would appeal to a typical pre-teen girl and this isn't likely to change with the Sony Vita. However, the sort things that appeal to most young girls are not considered part of the gaming mainstream.

So, if your real question is why should you buy the Vita for your granddaughter, then I agree with you. There's not likely to be much that would appeal to her in the new platform. As for the average mainstream gamer however, it's the most exiting hardware on the horizon right now.

 

[finbarqs]

the Vita is geared towards hardcore gamers.... It's apparent. People who still love video games, and would love to have a portable power house, Vita is there.

 

[Tom]

Well, no. The Nintendo DS Lite has already been dropped in price to $100 in the US, and no one noticed. Gamestop has already stopped stocking it. It won't last until Christmas. Nintendo will be lucky to sell another 10 million DS systems. They're not going to drop the DSi to $100 until they're ready clear that out as well.



So, if it's really that cheap, are you planning on buying an iPhone 5 for your granddaughter for Christmas? Or would the three year contract push it outside of your price range?



There's lots of games with mass market appeal available for sale at Target and Walmart for the PSP. For little girls? No, despite the existance of Hannah Montana lilac coloured PSP, there's not much that would appeal to a typical pre-teen girl and this isn't likely to change with the Sony Vita. However, the sort things that appeal to most young girls are not considered part of the gaming mainstream.

So, if your real question is why should you buy the Vita for your granddaughter, then I agree with you. There's not likely to be much that would appeal to her in the new platform. As for the average mainstream gamer however, it's the most exiting hardware on the horizon right now.

You're wrong about lots of games for the PSP at major retailers, for anyone. And the point about my granddaughter is I've just been checking out the psp games market, not for games for her specifically, but to see what the state of it is. I assumed it was bad, and I was right. That's the only point of mentioning it.

 

[Aikouka]

Because its "subsidized" price, with a three year contract, ends up being even more unaffordable for the average person.

As for Android, as already I said, it isn't relevent yet as gaming platform. The average gamer isn't going to be interested in these phones regardless of the price.

Then why don't you consider the iPod Touch, which has most of the same hardware and is considerably cheaper?

Also, I don't buy a smartphone because I just want to play games. It's such a silly comparison all-around when you try to push it as just a game platform! I paid $299 for a 32GB iPhone that can also play games.

 

[badb0y]

When your iPod/iPhone has Uncharted then you can talk. PSP Vita is obviously not for you if you think games on phones are actual games. I see them more as time killers if I have like 10 minutes or so.

 

[Imported]

When your iPod/iPhone has Uncharted then you can talk. PSP Vita is obviously not for you if you think games on phones are actual games. I see them more as time killers if I have like 10 minutes or so.

Same here..

 

[Ross Ridge]

Then why don't you consider the iPod Touch, which has most of the same hardware and is considerably cheaper?

Oh, it's affordable for the average gamer, sure, but it's also more of the same. Really, who's looking forward to a new iTouch model? A new Nintendo DSi iteration would have more interest.

Also, I don't buy a smartphone because I just want to play games. It's such a silly comparison all-around when you try to push it as just a game platform! I paid $299 for a 32GB iPhone that can also play games.

As I said, you're paying a lot more than $300. The average gamer doesn't have a smartphone contract, can't really afford one, probably would have difficulty just getting credit approval. And again, really, while there may be people eagerly awating the iPhone 5, there isn't much to look forward to as a gaming platform. More of the same.

And yes, these devices as gaming platforms is all I comparing, as that's all that is relevent here. The question was about the average gamer, not the average smartphone user. The average gamer doesn't doesn't care anymore about the Sony Vita's 3G capabilities than the iPhone 5's.

 

[Tom]

Oh, it's affordable for the average gamer, sure, but it's also more of the same. Really, who's looking forward to a new iTouch model? A new Nintendo DSi iteration would have more interest.



As I said, you're paying a lot more than $300. The average gamer doesn't have a smartphone contract, can't really afford one, probably would have difficulty just getting credit approval. And again, really, while there may be people eagerly awating the iPhone 5, there isn't much to look forward to as a gaming platform. More of the same.

And yes, these devices as gaming platforms is all I comparing, as that's all that is relevent here. The question was about the average gamer, not the average smartphone user. The average gamer doesn't doesn't care anymore about the Sony Vita's 3G capabilities than the iPhone 5's.

You have a very funny perception of who the "average gamer" is.

 

[Tom]

When your iPod/iPhone has Uncharted then you can talk. PSP Vita is obviously not for you if you think games on phones are actual games. I see them more as time killers if I have like 10 minutes or so.

So you think a lot of people will pay $250 to play one game ?

There are 2 large user bases for PORTABLE gaming.

1. people on the go.
2. kids

All the Vita competitors for consumer dollars I mentioned have substantial game libraries for both groups. Sony has no track record for meeting the demands of either group.

I hope they can this time, but I'm not optimistic.

 

[Aikouka]

When your iPod/iPhone has Uncharted then you can talk.

http://www.gameloft.com/ipad-games/shadow-guardian/?adid=101966

:whiste:

 

[badb0y]

So you think a lot of people will pay $250 to play one game ?

There are 2 large user bases for PORTABLE gaming.

1. people on the go.
2. kids

All the Vita competitors for consumer dollars I mentioned have substantial game libraries for both groups. Sony has no track record for meeting the demands of either group.

I hope they can this time, but I'm not optimistic.

What? In my opinion Sony has the best portfolio for first party exclusive games. Saying the PSP has no games is total nonsense.
Both God of War games were good
Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker was good
Killzone was good
Daxter was good
Little Big Planet was good
Modnation Racers was good
Crisis Core was good
Syphon Filters we good

These are games just off the top of my head, there are many more depending on what you like. Now that they added another analog stick and a back side/front side touch screen the diversity of games will increase and you will definitely see more FPS games(That's what most gamers like now a days.)

http://www.gameloft.com/ipad-games/shadow-guardian/?adid=101966

:whiste:

I know full well about Gameloft, again their games have no substance and are cheap knock offs of already established franchises. That's like comparing Hyundai to a Mercedes-Benz.

 

[Ross Ridge]

You have a very funny perception of who the "average gamer" is.

Yes, as odd as it may sound to you, I don't think the average gamer is a pre-teen girl with an iPhone.

So you think a lot of people will pay $250 to play one game ?

You're the one that mentioned the Nintendo 3DS.

 

[finbarqs]

we all know that ipad has capable graphics. Heck, it has half the CPU cores and half the GPU cores!

But what it lacks is a true actual controller. It's like saying "I can type faster on my virtual keyboard than my actual keyboard". I mean, would you actually play a FPS on your ipad as opposed to a Mouse + Keyboard Combo? People are STILL complaining about console FPS's where those "mouse + keyboard" adaptors are cheating. Cheating? It feels right at home!

 

[Tom]

Yes, as odd as it may sound to you, I don't think the average gamer is a pre-teen girl with an iPhone.



You're the one that mentioned the Nintendo 3DS.

Only as one of several competitors. I'm skeptical the 3DS will be a success too, but I'm sure it will have several good Nintendo games.

btw, girls are a big component of the overall gaming market. Nintendo and Apple get this, not sure MS and Sony do.

and as I already said, my comments about the PSP are about the dearth of games overall, not games specifically for girls.

 

[Aikouka]

we all know that ipad has capable graphics. Heck, it has half the CPU cores and half the GPU cores!

But what it lacks is a true actual controller. It's like saying "I can type faster on my virtual keyboard than my actual keyboard". I mean, would you actually play a FPS on your ipad as opposed to a Mouse + Keyboard Combo? People are STILL complaining about console FPS's where those "mouse + keyboard" adaptors are cheating. Cheating? It feels right at home!

I believe all it takes to use any bluetooth-capable controller (i.e. the PS3 controller) with the iPad is jailbreaking it. I think you just need to root Android, but I'm not to sure about that (it may not require anything).

Unfortunately, last I checked, they still haven't released an iPad 2 untethered jailbreak anyway .