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I have the 70-200/4L non-IS and I have to say I don't really feel the need for IS. If I needed IS I would've gone with the f/2.8 standard but since I bought the slower lens with the intention of shooting outdoors, all my needs are met.

Anyway it's so hard to go to the Beard and Hats Camera Amusement Park and not spend money. When I went there last year I dropped a couple hundred on a second flash unit and some misc accessories for my camera, then ended up returning a lot of it the next day when I came to my senses and realized I didn't need any of it. Sheesh.
 
Originally posted by: Mrvile
I have the 70-200/4L non-IS and I have to say I don't really feel the need for IS. If I needed IS I would've gone with the f/2.8 standard but since I bought the slower lens with the intention of shooting outdoors, all my needs are met.

Anyway it's so hard to go to the Beard and Hats Camera Amusement Park and not spend money. When I went there last year I dropped a couple hundred on a second flash unit and some misc accessories for my camera, then ended up returning a lot of it the next day when I came to my senses and realized I didn't need any of it. Sheesh.
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I somewhat agree. I had the 4L non-IS for a couple of months. An amazing lens. But it is nice to just have that IS.. just in case. then again, it's nearly twice the price (used), heh. Unfortunately, I sold it because I didn't have time for what I bought it for. And I would have liked to use it indoors more, but that wasn't going to work, and a 2.8 IS was/is FAR too much.
 
I went back to B&H today and exchanged the Slingshot for the Tamrac Velocity 8x. The guy assured me it was just as good as the Slingshot. Well, it's not. I hate it. Oh well, gotta go back yet another time to get the Slingshot 300. 🙁
 
Wow, it must be nice to walk into B&H and check out equipment. Around my neck of the woods, I have a Ritz...that's about it. 😛

Anyways, I LOVE the IS on my 70-200 2.8. It's flippin' great for panning shots. Opening it up to f/2.8 is nice for good bokeh when doing portraits and distant candids.

I'm not sure why everyone complains about lens weight. I don't consider myself to be crazy strong, but I'm not small, either. I've handheld the 70-200 2.8 IS + 1DMK2N for several hours as well as the 300 f/2.8L IS + 1DMK2N for other sporting events. Maybe it's my gamer's thumbs and hands? lol

Anyways, the 70-200 f/4L IS is a nice lightweight lens. You will enjoy the IS, that is for sure! Just try out some panning shots of cars or people on bikes. The day I got mine, I took some shots of my friends on their motorcycles. They are now framed in their bedrooms. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: jamesbond007
I'm not sure why everyone complains about lens weight. I don't consider myself to be crazy strong, but I'm not small, either. I've handheld the 70-200 2.8 IS + 1DMK2N for several hours as well as the 300 f/2.8L IS + 1DMK2N for other sporting events. Maybe it's my gamer's thumbs and hands? lol
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heh, I for one, don't have steady hands. I haven't held the 2.8 IS yet, but in my head, my hand shake would eliminate some of the benefit of the IS 😛 I'm actually more curious as to if Sigma will put any more lenses out w/ their OS.
 
The next time I go shooting with a partner, I'll have him snap some shots of my stance. I use it to shoot pretty much any lens I have, except for my 50 prime. I use my left elbow for lens support and thrust my left shoulder out in front of me to get my elbow directly in front. Then I take my left hand and rest it on my right shoulder. It's ridiculously easy and shooting 1/40 at 200mm without IS is definitely do-able!
 
Originally posted by: jamesbond007
The next time I go shooting with a partner, I'll have him snap some shots of my stance. I use it to shoot pretty much any lens I have, except for my 50 prime. I use my left elbow for lens support and thrust my left shoulder out in front of me to get my elbow directly in front. Then I take my left hand and rest it on my right shoulder. It's ridiculously easy and shooting 1/40 at 200mm without IS is definitely do-able!
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Interesting.. I've never heard of that. My coworker just informed me he was familiar with it, more as a military trick, heh. You've inspired me to get the non-IS... altho, now I'm thinking I might go w/ the sigma, it's less "OMG HUGE WHITE LENS"
 
Originally posted by: jamesbond007
The next time I go shooting with a partner, I'll have him snap some shots of my stance. I use it to shoot pretty much any lens I have, except for my 50 prime. I use my left elbow for lens support and thrust my left shoulder out in front of me to get my elbow directly in front. Then I take my left hand and rest it on my right shoulder. It's ridiculously easy and shooting 1/40 at 200mm without IS is definitely do-able!
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This sounds like an interesting technique I'll have to try out. If I'm understanding it correctly, this will work well with my 180 f/2.8 since I dont' have to worry about working a zoom ring with my left hand. Heck, this will probably work wonders with the 300 f/4 as well. Thanks for the tip!
 
Originally posted by: jamesbond007
The next time I go shooting with a partner, I'll have him snap some shots of my stance. I use it to shoot pretty much any lens I have, except for my 50 prime. I use my left elbow for lens support and thrust my left shoulder out in front of me to get my elbow directly in front. Then I take my left hand and rest it on my right shoulder. It's ridiculously easy and shooting 1/40 at 200mm without IS is definitely do-able!
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I do this as well, and yeah, sorta like a military trick. It looks like you're giving yourself a hug.

I also do this thing where I bring my camera up to my face, then turn my head and camera to the left and rest my entire camera on my left shoulder, looking through the viewfinder with my left eye because my right eye has astigmatism 🙁
 
Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
Originally posted by: jamesbond007
The next time I go shooting with a partner, I'll have him snap some shots of my stance. I use it to shoot pretty much any lens I have, except for my 50 prime. I use my left elbow for lens support and thrust my left shoulder out in front of me to get my elbow directly in front. Then I take my left hand and rest it on my right shoulder. It's ridiculously easy and shooting 1/40 at 200mm without IS is definitely do-able!
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I do this as well, and yeah, sorta like a military trick. It looks like you're giving yourself a hug.

I also do this thing where I bring my camera up to my face, then turn my head and camera to the left and rest my entire camera on my left shoulder, looking through the viewfinder with my left eye because my right eye has astigmatism 🙁
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I'm actually getting antsy to get home and try this! 🙂 The more I think about the potential of this, the more I want for the work day to be over. Is that wrong? 😛
 
tdawg, yes, yes it just may be very wrong! 😉

I'm glad I could help y'all out. A friend of mine started doing something similar and then we kinda improvised the stance a bit. What kind of military use would the pose be good for? I would think the side of the gun would be pretty close to your face, causing the gun to sound much louder...can't be good for the ears.
 
Originally posted by: jamesbond007
tdawg, yes, yes it just may be very wrong! 😉

I'm glad I could help y'all out. A friend of mine started doing something similar and then we kinda improvised the stance a bit. What kind of military use would the pose be good for? I would think the side of the gun would be pretty close to your face, causing the gun to sound much louder...can't be good for the ears.
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Something like this:

http://www.hcgamer.hu/gamer/im.../2004_11/hitman4wp.jpg

Something.
 
Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
Originally posted by: jamesbond007
tdawg, yes, yes it just may be very wrong! 😉

I'm glad I could help y'all out. A friend of mine started doing something similar and then we kinda improvised the stance a bit. What kind of military use would the pose be good for? I would think the side of the gun would be pretty close to your face, causing the gun to sound much louder...can't be good for the ears.
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Something like this:

http://www.hcgamer.hu/gamer/im.../2004_11/hitman4wp.jpg

Something.
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Very cool! Yeah the gun doesn't appear to be as close to your face as I thought. I must have been tired earlier when I thought all of the above out. 🙂

That wallpaper makes me want to play Hitman now! :laugh: Whoever thought I'd naturally pose like a hitman...haha! 😛
 
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