just got a new Slot1 mobo, and i have a problem!

[ChonChon]

there is NO vga built-in on this mobo, and when i put in the AGP monitor card from a dell mobo of the same chipset and plug in the mobo, nothing happens -- the monitor does not get a signal.

what im thinking is that its a driver problem...

but how do i install drivers without seeing anything?

please help as i need to use this for a dedicated server

thanks.

 

[Bassyhead]

If you're not getting anything at all then it's a hardware issue, not drivers. What happens when you turn it on? Fans spin? Lights come on? Is the memory good? Unplug everything that's not essential. Try resetting the BIOS jumper.

 

[ChonChon]

everything turns on. hard drive is going, fans are spinning, cd-drive works (and if all this happens it means that the ram has to be working)...

so...what the hell?

now, the BIOS jumper is where for me to reset (lol)?

 

[ChonChon]

p.s. PCI VGA card does not work either.

 

[ChonChon]

anyone? i really need this today!!!

 

[stevty2889]

How bout you list the system specs, we can't geuss. Are you getting a post beep? Do you know for sure the rest of the hardware is good?

 

[Bassyhead]

The system can turn on without any RAM at all, so it turning on is not an indication that the RAM works. Make sure everything is seated properly, and if possible, test the RAM and the VGA card in another system to verify them.

 

[ChonChon]

VGA card is able to be tested, and both the AGP and PCI VGA cards work

the ram is RDRAM and i have no other system.

however, the sytem has been running now for over an hour and hasnt shut down -- i believe this could be a pretty good sign of the RAM working...

it was working just a month ago anyway and nothing happened to it that couldve damaged it in any way...

P3 1GHz Slot1 CPU
128 MB RDRAM
Intel Motherboard (from DELL Precision 220)
3GB (lol) for now HDD that works for SURE

there are the specs.

 

[stevty2889]

I don't know for sure with the P3 RDRAM based chipset since I never used one, but with the P4 based ones, RDRAM has to be used in pairs, and the empty ram slots need to be filled with CRIMMS, so you need to make sure the ram is in exactly the correct spots to be paired up, and their are CRMIMMS in the empty slots.

 

[ChonChon]

there are 2 slots, and one RDRAM is in one slot, and there is a CRIMM in the empty spot (should i try switching them around, will that do anything?)

p.s. if any of you have MSN, now would be an amazing time to add mr.chonchon@gmail.com (or Google Talk)

 

[stevty2889]

Originally posted by: ChonChon
there are 2 slots, and one RDRAM is in one slot, and there is a CRIMM in the empty spot (should i try switching them around, will that do anything?)

p.s. if any of you have MSN, now would be an amazing time to add mr.chonchon@gmail.com (or Google Talk)

Wouldn't hurt to try switching them around, might have to have the rimm in the first slot. Also, are you sure the motherboard isn't proprietary? A lot of older dells used proprietary motherboards and power supplies, so the ATX connector on the motherboard was slightly differant than on a normal ATX motherboard. If you are using a standard ATX power supply, it may not be wired correctly for the motherboard, just a possibility. Also are you sure the new motherboard supports the CPU? And what happened to the old motherboard that you swtiched?

 

[bluestrobe]

Only RDRAM that was possible to run a single stick along on was the RIMM4200 dual channel ones which were rare and only used on two consumer boards. What was the model number of this system, what is bad when it was given to you? Other than its a dell slot 1 P3 with agp/pci, we don't know anything at this point.

 

[sieistganzfett]

its rdram and not sdram? you guys mean that rdram was actually used in the days of the p3 that was in a slot form???

if you have a pc speaker that you can connect to the speaker pins on the motherboard, see if there are beep codes as to why this thing is not posting. also, did this un-named motherboard have a manual with it or a model/maker? you can look in the manual for where the cmos jumper is, or just take out the battery and put it back in (this is all when there is no power to the computer) also, are the cpu and ram properly seated down all of the way? try taking them out and putting them back in. but its best to use a pc speaker to hear whats going on.

 

[ChonChon]

PC speaker is connected and nothing out of the ordinary. the RDRAM is capable of running, as it was before. the mobo/PSU im using CAME with the DELL and were BOTH FULLY fundtional about 2 months ago with no issues. the NEW mobo wont accept the stupid front pannel power connector of the gay dell, so for now its not being used until i get a new case.

i really dont know what could be causing this. i unplugged the CD drive, so only AGP VGA card, CPU, hard drive, and RAM are installed.

 

[ChonChon]

what the **** can be wrong?

 

[bluestrobe]

Originally posted by: ChonChon
PC speaker is connected and nothing out of the ordinary. the RDRAM is capable of running, as it was before. the mobo/PSU im using CAME with the DELL and were BOTH FULLY fundtional about 2 months ago with no issues. the NEW mobo wont accept the stupid front pannel power connector of the gay dell, so for now its not being used until i get a new case.

i really dont know what could be causing this. i unplugged the CD drive, so only AGP VGA card, CPU, hard drive, and RAM are installed.

Most big company computer systems had proprietary connectors (such as front panel) to easy the manufacturing. I know the parts came from a dell system but do you know the model of the system it came from. This might sound like a small or worthless piece of information but could tell us a lot. Dell might have to have the board isolated or ground in a special way for video. I've seen weird requirements from factor systems like this before. I still never see why they used RDRAM in P3?s, it was such a waste.

 

[ChonChon]

the DELL Precision 220 is the exact model no.

here is the DELL link: http://support.dell.com/support/downloa...SystemID=WRK_PNT_P03_220&os=WW1&osl=EN

its not plack and pretty like that, however the exact same comp...

 

[ChonChon]

i need this today hopefully, any ideas anyone?

i tryied taking it all apart and putting it back together, i tried switching the RAM and CRIMM around, i disconnected the CD drive, i hooked up speakers getting nothing wrong...

this is pissing me off!

 

[bluestrobe]

Is this motherboard in another case or by itself. If in a case, I would take it out and then try it. From what I could tell, this motherboard had computer case security along with a few embedded programs. Did they disable the computer case security before it was parted it out? Some workstations won't turn on unless the computer case is closed. Just a thought.

 

[ChonChon]

it turned on before with the case all the time...

with the new motherboard on a piece of cardboard or something, how will i send it power to turn on?

if it works, which im sure it does (the new one) then thats fine ill get a new case. im sure this older one should work as well, its just puzzling me as to why the monitor is not turning on when it always was before...

 

[bluestrobe]

Originally posted by: ChonChon
it turned on before with the case all the time...

with the new motherboard on a piece of cardboard or something, how will i send it power to turn on?

if it works, which im sure it does (the new one) then thats fine ill get a new case. im sure this older one should work as well, its just puzzling me as to why the monitor is not turning on when it always was before...

You're confusing me here. Is this motherboard going into a Dell case or a case that you are supplying?


Also, you can power any motherboard with a power supply outside of the case. Remove the four screws and remove the power supply. That should have been the first step before posting on here. You might have to rig an atx power button, use the one in the case, or just short out the pins if you are comfortable doing it.

Edit: if this is a new case, make sure all of your motherboard standoffs are properly aligned and no unnecessary ones that are installed. Also this is why you remove the motherboard from any case, to test it out and find out about the standoffs.

 

[ChonChon]

ok..let me make it clear:

I got a new motherboard that is NOT COMPATIBLE with the DELL CASE that i had from the OLDER DELL MOTHERBOARD that i had. SO, just to configure some things, i put the ORIGINAL DELL MOTHERBOARD into the ORIGINAL DELL CASE and hooked it all up. now, IT DOESNT WORK. the screen WILL NOT TURN ON.

the NEW MOTHERBOARD is working perfect, i JUST NEED A CASE FOR IT that will be COMPATIBLE WITH IT. for NOW, i need the DELL MOTHERBOARD TO WORK, and it ISN'T!

i hope this clears things up.

 

[bluestrobe]

Buy a new case and get back to us. I hardly ever reuse pre-manufactured (i.e.: computer company) computer cases. One model might differ from the next model and there might be grounding straps or I/O plates that differ that could be a problem with a donor/new board. With how much atx cases are (local shop sells them for $20), it?s not worth the headache. Even though it?s the same company and possibly model, there might be a revision that you don?t know about that could be the problem.

 

[ChonChon]

hahahahahah! i can get a case for about $20 CAD from a local store, just not until they open again on monday (****** renovations), and i wanted it ASAP.

thanks.

 

[ChonChon]

problem completely solved!

getting a case tomorrow from a friend (hey, free is better then $20 ) and the server will be up wooo!!!

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