Just got a G2X - Impressions (compared to nokia n900)

Fox5

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So I just upgraded from a nokia n900 to a tmobile g2x, here's my impressions so far:
Speed is so, so much faster. However, the n900 was a sluggish phone, just about every recent android device, even those of lesser specs, outperformed it in use. It's nice finally to be able to get to text message without having to wait.

I don't care much for the hardware. I greatly prefer a hardware keyboard, though I'm adjusting to a touch keyboard. Autocorrect infuriates me, but I believe that can be turned off, very rarely does it help me. It's hard to select text by touching. I find the touch screen 'feels' far less accurate than the touch screen on the n900 (even without a stylus) and I miss having arrow keys to navigate text.

The feel of the phone is just odd, but it's just the bar standard iphone slate copy that all phones are now. It doesn't really fit well in my hand, and the power button is difficult to reach. However, it fits in my pocket way better. Phone is considerably lighter than the n900, this is a good thing, the n900 could make my wrist tired holding it one handed while web browsing.

No landscape orientation for the desktop?! Lame!


Android's stock interface is rather unintuitive, and I actually think the n900 did a better job having a user friendly interface. Not having wrap around on the multiple desktops kind of sucks. The pull down drawer menu is just awkward. The icons in the taskbar are way too big, it's not going to fit very many notifications, and why are they always there when they have nothing new to tell me? I prefer the n900's expanding translucent grid of notification icons. Why do you take up the bottom of my screen with shortcuts, when those could just be moved into the pop up menu you have a dedicated button for, or left to the user to place on the desktop? The one click 'does everything button' paradigm of the n900 was better imo, click once for an expose view of all running apps, twice to go to installed apps.

I do however like the performance, stunningly fast compared to what I came from, and far less glitchy. I'd give the hardware design and user interface to nokia, but overall google's software wins the day. Oh, but for some reason the phone lacks an notification LED, so you have to reach around for the awkward power button to see if you have any emails or messages.

I really like being able to do speech to text transcribing. It's not perfect, but it's pretty good, and almost makes up for the lack of a hardware keyboard (seriously, I almost wanted to return the phone after using the touch screen keyboard). It does take a while though, and I wish there was a dedicated hardware button on the phone for it like the mytouch4g has, it sucks to look at the phone to hunt down the voice icon.

Google Nav isn't as amazing as I thought, and how come the text to speech software can only be installed on an SD card? Still pretty good though, it will probably become my primary gps, replacing my Garmin.

Speedy, everything is speedy. Honestly, I kind of wish Google went for a pay model with android. Sell it as a software backend that other companies could build user interfaces on top of, so phone companies could have their differentiation but performance would still be good. Wish it had the all in one integrated sms/chat client capabilities of the n900, but the speed and individual google apps make it so much more useful. The web browser is speedy (and so are the alternatives, opera, firefox, and dolphin), and I like the direct integration with gmail, google calendar, etc. The navigation app is cool, and so are google goggles and the voice transcription. The app store is speedy too, and well-stocked with useful apps.

I finally have a phone that just works, it truly is an enabler. The n900 was fun to play with, the G2X lets me get stuff done and then forget about the phone. And the google services are, imo, the only things in the smart phone world that actually make having a data plan worth the cost. An app store can be handled over wifi, chat and email (aka blackberry style smart phone) only need minimal data, google actually gives me a reason to be paying for always connected unlimited data.

I can't see myself doing any gaming on the device, unless the bluetooth game gripper (or something similar) ever comes out for the phone. Touch screen gaming seems pretty horrid based on the two included games (need for speed and some shooting game). NFS relies on tilting the phone, a pretty lame control mechanism imho, and the touch screen control don't work very well. The nintendo ds pulled it off better, but it could dedicate a screen as a touch pad, instead of a tiny portion of it. I could see myself maybe playing a turn based strategy game or something. I did play games on my n900 using a game gripper, occasionally, and the keyboard would also serve in a pinch.
 
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s44

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Install Swype and either SwiftKey or one of the other type-y keyboard apps. Only Gingerbread has a decent stock keyboard (actually, you can just d/l that here), but the beauty of Android is that you can always install your own.
 

gorcorps

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A good chunk of your complaints can be solved with other apps. Any desktop issues you may have aren't present in Launcher Pro (free version). You can arrange your icons as you wish and enable "desktop wrapping" or whatever you want to call it. I would install Swiftkey as a replacement keyboard. It still does the autocorrect, but it's MUCH better than the standard keyboards I've used. Of course I'm of the opinion that if you were typing properly anyway autocorrect won't even be doing anything, but that's beside the point.
 

Fox5

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Install Swype and either SwiftKey or one of the other type-y keyboard apps. Only Gingerbread has a decent stock keyboard (actually, you can just d/l that here), but the beauty of Android is that you can always install your own.

The phone has swype, but it seems weird, not sure if I'm willing to learn an entirely new paradigm of input, especially one that's going to be even more subject to the auto correct problems that are already bugging me.

I did install the gingerbread keyboard though. Is it just a little more spaced out?
 

Fox5

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A good chunk of your complaints can be solved with other apps. Any desktop issues you may have aren't present in Launcher Pro (free version). You can arrange your icons as you wish and enable "desktop wrapping" or whatever you want to call it. I would install Swiftkey as a replacement keyboard. It still does the autocorrect, but it's MUCH better than the standard keyboards I've used. Of course I'm of the opinion that if you were typing properly anyway autocorrect won't even be doing anything, but that's beside the point.

Autocorrect keeps correcting acronyms, names of companies, things like that.
 

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Autocorrect keeps correcting acronyms, names of companies, things like that.

Yah it took me a while to get used to autocorrect (like 3 months) but now I'm definitely way faster with it. I even wrote an autohotkey script that emulates it on my windows machine.
 

Oyeve

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How is the music player? The stock player on mg vibrant is pretty good as it has an equalizer. His does this one compare?
 

gorcorps

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Autocorrect keeps correcting acronyms, names of companies, things like that.

Ah those. It shouldn't be bad once you add those into your dictionary though. After correcting it once or twice it shouldn't correct it again.
 

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Nokias are nice but I hope you enjoyed your last iteration of Symbian. From this autumn forward its all WP7.
I was gonna go for the Astound but decided against it. Why learn the latest touchscreen S60 and get Ovi apps when all that stuff wont matter in 6 months?
 

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Nokias are nice but I hope you enjoyed your last iteration of Symbian. From this autumn forward its all WP7.
I was gonna go for the Astound but decided against it. Why learn the latest touchscreen S60 and get Ovi apps when all that stuff wont matter in 6 months?

The N900 has Maemo, not Symbian.
 

Fox5

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The N900 has Maemo, not Symbian.

Yep, and I think Maemo had real promise, had Nokia given it a real push. The move they're making with Windows Phone 7 now, they should have made in 2008 or 2009 with Maemo, start phasing out Symbian and push full forward with Maemo. It's comparable to the early versions of Android, imo.
 

TheInternet1980

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I kind of want this phone...but can't justify dumping the G2 already. It's been 6 months...

Smartphones need to become cheaper. If I could buy whatever phone I wanted, whenever it came out regardless of when I purchased my last phone, for like $150 and an extension...I'd upgrade all the time. But no.
 

shortylickens

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I kind of want this phone...but can't justify dumping the G2 already. It's been 6 months...

Smartphones need to become cheaper. If I could buy whatever phone I wanted, whenever it came out regardless of when I purchased my last phone, for like $150 and an extension...I'd upgrade all the time. But no.

Actually in the grand scheme of things they are cheaper. You got way more processing and OS power for the money than you've ever had.
However, if you wanna save money you might consider a multimedia phone instead. Most of them can probably do what you really need, like email and such.
When my service ends thats where I'm going, Virgin Mobile with a feature phone, not Android or Blackberry.
 

s44

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Yep, and I think Maemo had real promise, had Nokia given it a real push. The move they're making with Windows Phone 7 now, they should have made in 2008 or 2009 with Maemo, start phasing out Symbian and push full forward with Maemo. It's comparable to the early versions of Android, imo.
What we learned in the last few years is that Nokia, unlike Microsoft (or, obviously, Google) isn't a software company. No way they could have relentlessly iterated Maemo as often and as quickly as needed to keep from falling too far behind Android and iOS, much less catch up to them.
 

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i bought one of these yesterday myself and I am very impressed so far, switching from an HTC evo4g. Worth every penny.
 

Fox5

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How's the music player app?

Don't know, I don't have any music! The pandora app works though.

What we learned in the last few years is that Nokia, unlike Microsoft (or, obviously, Google) isn't a software company. No way they could have relentlessly iterated Maemo as often and as quickly as needed to keep from falling too far behind Android and iOS, much less catch up to them.

Billions can buy lots of talent. I think Nokia's problem was more a failing of management and guidance than lack of technical expertise. It is hard to compete with Microsoft (practically owns the computing industry), Google (attracts the best and the brightest employees), and Apple (has marketing and UI design down better than anyone).
 

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Got some hands on time in the store the other day. It's nice phone, arguably the best phone subsidized by T-Mobile. Official Gingerbread update for the G2X is supposedly coming soon and Cyanogen support doesn't hurt either.

Wasn't impressed with the Sidekick. It's too teeny and just like other qwerty phones, the top spec sheet is reserved for candy bar form factor.
OEM's consider qwerty sliders a niche market, top spec qwerty sliders appear to be a thing of the past. Too bad, I wouldn't mind a high end 5 row keyboard. AFAIK, there are no non-Motorola dual core qwerty sliders announced.
 

Oyeve

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This phone looks sick! I may get it and trade in my vibrant which is really starting to piss me off. But first I have to find a way to export all of my apps.
 

Fox5

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Got some hands on time in the store the other day. It's nice phone, arguably the best phone subsidized by T-Mobile. Official Gingerbread update for the G2X is supposedly coming soon and Cyanogen support doesn't hurt either.

Wasn't impressed with the Sidekick. It's too teeny and just like other qwerty phones, the top spec sheet is reserved for candy bar form factor.
OEM's consider qwerty sliders a niche market, top spec qwerty sliders appear to be a thing of the past. Too bad, I wouldn't mind a high end 5 row keyboard. AFAIK, there are no non-Motorola dual core qwerty sliders announced.

The G2 was a high end slider, but it came at the end of that hardware's top of the line life cycle. I think you'll always have to look for high end sliders to trail the candy bars by 6 months to a year. Next winter we'll probably see a G3 dual core slider, if Tmobile is still getting new phones at that point.
 

Fox5

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This phone looks sick! I may get it and trade in my vibrant which is really starting to piss me off. But first I have to find a way to export all of my apps.

Doesn't android automatically redownload all apps from the market when you log in?
 

shortylickens

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Billions can buy lots of talent. I think Nokia's problem was more a failing of management and guidance than lack of technical expertise. It is hard to compete with Microsoft (practically owns the computing industry), Google (attracts the best and the brightest employees), and Apple (has marketing and UI design down better than anyone).
I'd have to agree. They didnt look to compete in the future, they were always struggling to just keep up. Heck, even Palm was more forward looking than them.
Smart to jump on with MS cuz they have loads of unrealized potential.
 

Fire&Blood

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The G2 was a high end slider, but it came at the end of that hardware's top of the line life cycle. I think you'll always have to look for high end sliders to trail the candy bars by 6 months to a year. Next winter we'll probably see a G3 dual core slider, if Tmobile is still getting new phones at that point.

True. The G2 was a cool looking "adult" phone and specs at launch warranted a competitive phone but the keyboard wasn't as good. the Touch Pro 2 qwerty was probably the best phone qwerty I ever used. I never tested it but I am pretty sure I was doing ~35 wpm on it.

Agree on the qwerty specs trailing the candy bar, industry is trending high end for touchscreen first.

I have 6 months left to decide what to do after this contract.

At this point I am used to no keyboards. Hoping my next phone has a slim profile, I would hope for a tight pouch that I can DIY a anorexic BT keyboard into.
 

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I got this phone on 4/20/2011 - and so far it does everything I want it to do for business and travel... I just recently started playing with the multimedia features... I hooked up a Micro HDMI (Type D) to connect it to my HDTV and I was watching YouTube and playing games on my HDTV... so far no lags or lock ups... I came from years of using black berries so having a much more powerful phone for multi tasking is refreshing for me...