Just don't do ANYTHING!

Viper1j

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No cops, no extra security, no escorts... NOTHING! You don't even get special hanger space for Air Force One. You get nothing else until you pay your bill.

And nobody wants him there anyway. What can he do about it? All he can do is whine about it.

If I were Mayor, it's what I would do.

WAKE UP EL PASO.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/06/politics/trump-campaign-el-paso-debt/index.html

Trump campaign still owes El Paso more than $500,000 on eve of President's return visit

President Donald Trump will travel to El Paso, Texas, on Wednesday to offer his condolences and support to survivors, first responders and local officials in the wake of a mass shooting at a Walmart that left 22 dead. But he'll arrive with a $500,000 debt to the border city from his last visit.

Trump traveled to El Paso in mid-February of this year for his first political rally of 2019, where he made his case for a border wall before a friendly crowd of supporters at the County Coliseum following the 35-day government shutdown. Like most presidential campaign travel, the trip incurred a variety of police and public safety-related costs billed to the Trump campaign by the municipal government.

The Center for Public Integrity first reported on the bills and has reported extensively since.

According to invoice documents obtained by CNN, the city of El Paso initially billed the Trump campaign $470,417.05 in reimbursement costs for the event. But in a letter dated March 27, 2019, the Office of the Comptroller of the City of El Paso wrote to the campaign that, if it did not pay its debt within 30 days, a one-time 21% collection fee -- nearly $100,000 -- would be added. The total invoice with the late fees now stands at $569,204.63.

The city of El Paso's strategic communications director Laura Cruz-Acosta confirmed to CNN that the bill had not been paid as of Tuesday afternoon, despite multiple media reports about its existence.

The Trump campaign has not responded to CNN's request for comment and it's unclear whether the bill will be paid before the President returns to El Paso.
According to the Center for Public Integrity, presidential campaign committees "are not generally obligated by federal law to pay public safety-related bills sent to them by municipalities that host presidential candidates' campaign rallies," and President Barack Obama "often did not pay such bills during his 2012 reelection campaign."

The outstanding public safety bill and Wednesday visit come as Trump has praised the work of law enforcement. He is expected to meet with first responders during the trip. "I want to thank the many law enforcement personnel who responded to these atrocities with the extraordinary grace and courage of American heroes," Trump said at the White House during remarks on the mass shootings Monday.

He added that the federal government would provide "whatever is needed" in the wake of the domestic terror attack.
"Federal authorities are on the ground, and I have directed them to provide any and all assistance required -- whatever is needed," he said.
 
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SlowSpyder

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He raised over $100 million in the second quarter this year for campaigning, I'm sure paying this bill won't be a problem.
 

Stryke1983

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My understanding is that this isn't necessarily a unique case for Presidential campaigns. Trump is still a deadbeat who avoids paying his debts as a general rule, but I don't think he's the only one who hasn't paid these types of bills. Definitely something that needs to be formalized though so places like this don't get shafted.
 

Bitek

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They should serve him a summons on his visit.

This is his presidency in a nutshell.

Taxpayer funding Trump's weekly golfing outings, Klan rallies, and family vacations when he needs a break from sitting around tweeting and doing little else.
 

HomerJS

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He raised over $100 million in the second quarter this year for campaigning, I'm sure paying this bill won't be a problem.
Tell that to the electrical contractors in Atlantic City. Screwed over those small businesses
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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My understanding is that this isn't necessarily a unique case for Presidential campaigns. Trump is still a deadbeat who avoids paying his debts as a general rule, but I don't think he's the only one who hasn't paid these types of bills. Definitely something that needs to be formalized though so places like this don't get shafted.
Beto had a competing rally that same day. He paid.
 

fskimospy

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He raised over $100 million in the second quarter this year for campaigning, I'm sure paying this bill won't be a problem.

Considering he still hasn’t paid Washington DC for the inauguration more than two years later it sure seems like this is a problem.
 

Commodus

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He raised over $100 million in the second quarter this year for campaigning, I'm sure paying this bill won't be a problem.

Trump is infamous for regularly stiffing contractors. Just because he can pay doesn't mean he will.
 
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zinfamous

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He raised over $100 million in the second quarter this year for campaigning, I'm sure paying this bill won't be a problem.

Still wouldn't pay for all of the Tumor's golf trips, which he also owes to the American people.

...but I'm sure he'll be on that, just as soon as LaPierre pays back all of the donations you gave to him for his fur coats and lavish employee weddings. :D
 

Caesar

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He raised over $100 million in the second quarter this year for campaigning, I'm sure paying this bill won't be a problem.

The problem with corrupt and unethical people isn't usually that they don't have money; it is just that they tend to not pay their debts.
 
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He raised over $100 million in the second quarter this year for campaigning, I'm sure paying this bill won't be a problem.

Certainly shouldn’t be let’s see if it gets paid.
BTW I don’t expect the President to pay it that’s why he has a re-election committee. The real question is that committee organized enough to know who needs to pay the bill.
 

HomerJS

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The problem with corrupt and unethical people isn't usually that they don't have money; it is just that they tend to not pay their debts.
Corrupt and unethical. Who could possibly find fault with that as a President.
 

soundforbjt

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Certainly shouldn’t be let’s see if it gets paid.
BTW I don’t expect the President to pay it that’s why he has a re-election committee. The real question is that committee organized enough to know who needs to pay the bill.
Well, his people aren't organized enough to carry a thumb drive with clip-art of the Presidential seal on it for an event so I doubt this group is any smarter.
 

Muse

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He raised over $100 million in the second quarter this year for campaigning, I'm sure paying this bill won't be a problem.
You are sure of no such thing, you are just posing/posturing. The mofo is famous for not paying his bills. How many has he stiffed in his bankruptcies?
 

Greenman

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According to the Center for Public Integrity, presidential campaign committees "are not generally obligated by federal law to pay public safety-related bills sent to them by municipalities that host presidential candidates' campaign rallies," and President Barack Obama "often did not pay such bills during his 2012 reelection campaign."
Am I the only one who read this part? Why act like this is unique to Trump?
I also think El Paso should decline to provide any special services for his visit. That should be SOP for any visiting president.
 

IronWing

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According to the Center for Public Integrity, presidential campaign committees "are not generally obligated by federal law to pay public safety-related bills sent to them by municipalities that host presidential candidates' campaign rallies," and President Barack Obama "often did not pay such bills during his 2012 reelection campaign."
Am I the only one who read this part? Why act like this is unique to Trump?
I also think El Paso should decline to provide any special services for his visit. That should be SOP for any visiting president.
They don't have a choice. Trump surrounds himself with violent psychopaths. El Paso will have to provide protection for its citizens while Trump and his gang of homicidal weirdos are in town.
 
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According to the Center for Public Integrity, presidential campaign committees "are not generally obligated by federal law to pay public safety-related bills sent to them by municipalities that host presidential candidates' campaign rallies," and President Barack Obama "often did not pay such bills during his 2012 reelection campaign."
Am I the only one who read this part? Why act like this is unique to Trump?
I also think El Paso should decline to provide any special services for his visit. That should be SOP for any visiting president.

Sort of agree, this follows Trump because he is notorious for not paying his bills.
May be unfair but that’s what he has to deal with.
 

SMOGZINN

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Am I the only one who read this part? Why act like this is unique to Trump?

No one is saying that it is unique to Trump, only representative of Trump. And honestly, if it is Trump poor money management that brings this topic to light and gets people to hold politicians responsible for paying the bills they cost cities in their campaigns then it is probably a good thing.