Just built a new computer and its taking quite long to boot.

[BusinessBill]

I just built a new comp.

It feels like it sits on a black screen for like 5 minutes before Windows or BIOs boots.

Never seen this before. It’s my 4th build. Not sure what I’m going wrong.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Detailed specs? Try turning XMP off. It could be trying to find memory settings that work.

 

[BusinessBill]

Ryzen 9 7900x
ROG x670e Hero
64GB Dominator Ram
Nvidia GeForce RTX 3050
H150i cpu cooler

 

[BoomerD]

Ryzen 9 7900x
ROG x670e Hero
64GB Dominator Ram
Nvidia GeForce RTX 3050
H150i cpu cooler

Decent specs...What's your boot drive? HDD? SDD? NVME?

 

[igor_kavinski]

64GB Dominator Ram

Ah, Corsair. I have a bad feeling about this.

Try with just a single stick and see if the delay still happens.

 

[igor_kavinski]

What's your boot drive? HDD? SDD? NVME?

Good question. The UEFI could be waiting while trying to get a response from an erratic boot drive.

 

[mikeymikec]

Up-to-date BIOS?

 

[In2Photos]

If this is the first boot or any boot after a clear CMOS or change in hardware it is "by design". The motherboard is going through memory training. AM5 is said to take up to 400 seconds when 128GB of RAM is installed. Not sure if the exact number for 64GB.

 

[igor_kavinski]

AM5 is said to take up to 400 seconds when 128GB of RAM is installed.

Honestly, that is just stupid implementation on the part of mobo makers. Would it be really hard to display a message on screen saying that this is what's taking so long and please wait? Or better yet, a progress bar or estimated countdown timer? I'm seriously amazed at some of the decisions taken by experienced engineers with years and years of industry experience.

 

[In2Photos]

Honestly, that is just stupid implementation on the part of mobo makers. Would it be really hard to display a message on screen saying that this is what's taking so long and please wait? Or better yet, a progress bar or estimated countdown timer? I'm seriously amazed at some of the decisions taken by experienced engineers with years and years of industry experience.

The Gigabyte boards have a sticker over the RAM slots telling you it will take some time. Unfortunately it appears that some of the stickers are not coming off of the board very easily.

 

[BusinessBill]

Even all my Corsair lights are messed up and icue isn't controlling it right. Not sure if its because of windows 11. i just got on it for the first time. I also went back and checked all the cable.

@BoomerD SN850x

@mikeymikec I'm thinking the BIOS is next. I'm a bit nervous about that. Haven't done that before. I tried figuring it out using the ROG flash drive provided. went to bios and then followed the manual. i wasn't able to find the BIOS file on the key like the manual suggested. may need to go the manual route downloading and go from there.

@igor_kavinski will look into trying one stick of ram.

@In2Photos will try clearing CMOS..for the first time lol

Thanks for all the suggest, all. its frustrating for sure. basically the whole build i've done so many times. the biggest change here is just the new motherboard, cpu, nvme, and windows 11. i've never had these kinds of problems before. like, if i ever kinda messed up on a build, for an amateur like me, i was still able to logical say it was this or that and it was minor. some of the things im seeing just doesnt make sense.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

It's a brand new platform. Early adopter issues are common with them. They call it the bleeding edge for a reason. Little confused by your comments as well. You write you've done it so many times, but also said you have done it 3 times before, does not compute.

Definitely download and install the latest bios. That is the first place to start with a new platform having teething issues. Sometimes a flurry of updates will be released within weeks or months to address the issues.

 

[In2Photos]

Even all my Corsair lights are messed up and icue isn't controlling it right. Not sure if its because of windows 11. i just got on it for the first time. I also went back and checked all the cable.

Was this a brand new Windows 11 install or did you upgrade an older OS from a previous build?

 

[mikeymikec]

@BusinessBill just so you know, whenever you build a computer, first things first: if it's not immediately acting very wrong indeed, then do a BIOS update. As @DAPUNISHER said, it's a bleeding-edge platform, so I'd expect the next few BIOS updates to contain likely-to-be-useful changes.

Does the computer take minutes to show *anything* on the screen?

 

[igor_kavinski]

General question for everyone else: This memory training thing, did it get worse with DDR4? (I don't remember DDR3 on H97 taking as long as DDR4 on an ASUS H610 mobo which frankly freaked me out).

 

[Muadib]

General question for everyone else: This memory training thing, did it get worse with DDR4? (I don't remember DDR3 on H97 taking as long as DDR4 on an ASUS H610 mobo which frankly freaked me out).

Pretty sure it's a new thing. Never had the issue with my 3900x or 5900x systems.

 

[VirtualLarry]

If this is the first boot or any boot after a clear CMOS or change in hardware it is "by design". The motherboard is going through memory training. AM5 is said to take up to 400 seconds when 128GB of RAM is installed. Not sure if the exact number for 64GB.

JayzTwoCents on YT did a video on this very issue recently.

 

[Steltek]

@mikeymikec I'm thinking the BIOS is next. I'm a bit nervous about that. Haven't done that before. I tried figuring it out using the ROG flash drive provided. went to bios and then followed the manual. i wasn't able to find the BIOS file on the key like the manual suggested. may need to go the manual route downloading and go from there.

Download the most recent BIOS from the ASUS website. There have been two beta BIOS releases in the last 4 days, so there are definitely teething issues going on. You have to use the BIOSRenamer tool (probably provided with the board) to rename the BIOS before you can install it.

As far as worries about BIOS upgrades, that is a higher end board so it has the ASUS BIOS flashback feature onboard. You have to try pretty hard to bork up a board with a BIOS flash when you have that.

BTW, it is always a really good idea to reset the CMOS to defaults at the time you install the board and later after with any BIOS updates.

 

[BusinessBill]

It's a brand new platform. Early adopter issues are common with them. They call it the bleeding edge for a reason. Little confused by your comments as well. You write you've done it so many times, but also said you have done it 3 times before, does not compute.

Definitely download and install the latest bios. That is the first place to start with a new platform having teething issues. Sometimes a flurry of updates will be released within weeks or months to address the issues.

What I mean by that is I've had 3 previous builds from the ground up. However, there have been quite a few times between these new builds where I've changed cases and had to strip it down and build it back up. I'm no expert. But, I've built my rig enough times to know what to expect. But, this time has just been a bit crazy.

 

[BusinessBill]

Was this a brand new Windows 11 install or did you upgrade an older OS from a previous build?

Brand new install.

And ty all who provided input!

 

[BusinessBill]

Ah, Corsair. I have a bad feeling about this.

Try with just a single stick and see if the delay still happens.

@igor_kavinski so I tried the 1 stick and it was much much quicker and fixed it. so what do i do now? I can‘t leave out the other 3 sticks. LOL

Update: I did proceed with trying 2 sticks. Works fast. Then I added the remaining 2 sticks and now its back to its old ways of being real slow.

 

[mikeymikec]

Re nervousness about BIOS updates - when I go to feed an Asus BIOS an update via USB, I just double-check that the board name is identical to the board name that the BIOS update says its for. The two names are put up on the screen at the same time when you're asked to confirm you wish to go ahead. Then you wait a while for the progress bar, then it wants to reboot, then I'd give it five minutes at most to finish rebooting (though most boards barely take any longer than usual in my experience), then it'll tell you it's done and your BIOS settings have likely been reset to their defaults.

The only time I've had a BIOS update go awry was when I did something dumb and fed a laptop a BIOS that wasn't explicitly for that laptop.

 

[BusinessBill]

After trying different configurations of the ram. It looks like A1 and B1 slots are the problem. Getting the C5 msg and won’t post. A1 and B1 being the first and third slot from the left.

Things I tried:
-Single configuration on A2 slot. All worked
-Single configuration on B2 slot. All worked
-Single configuration on A1 slot. Did not work
-Single configuration on B2 slot. Did not work

-Double ram on A2 and B2. Worked
-Double ram on A1 and B1. Did not work

-All four ram. Takes ages to work. Maybe as much as 5 mins.

 

[In2Photos]

Sounds like you need to return the board or at the least reach out to ASUS to see if it's something you can resolve with a BIOS update or something.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I have to say that I'm not surprised. Corsair RAM refused to work on my Z97 mobo, even though I used it for years on my Z77 (not totally stable though but stable enough). I don't know what Corsair does differently. Maybe they pick the worst memory chips at dirt cheap prices and make a hefty profit building premium modules with them?