Just bought my Barton 2500+>

[94transam]

Ok, without wanting to overclockwhat do you guys think?
I payed $199.00 for my barton 2500, i could've gotten the t-bred 2500 for $169, what do you think would have given me better performance without Oc'ing? I do have the 333fsb with this and the 512 L2. But i'm only running at 1.8 and the t-bred runs at 2.0.

??

 

[Soulkeeper]

the barton is a better buy than the 2400+ t-bred in my opinion and should perform slightly better in most situations, cache is good
did you buy retail ???

 

[94transam]

no i bought tray, i know i got hosed slightly but i hate waiting for shipping. I saw it on outpost.com for $179 tray, and frys wanted $199 in the store. Now they're the same store so i cussed and screamed and it got me no where so i bit the bullitt anyway. I wanted it and HATE waiting for anything.lol
It does seem to be outperforming my old on 3dmark2003 quite a bit. It even is comparable with when i OC'd the 2100 to 2166mhz they are almost identical scores. not bad.
The only problem i'm experiencing now is i had to bump my agp voltage to 1.6v in bios otherwise i got 3d lockup now with the 333fsb. I know its kindof a known issue around here, but isnt it kinda weird that that fixes it for me?
Also i'm sitting at 48c idle stock. that doesnt feel so good. I am using a Dream X HSF. I know its a pretty sweet fan. Whats up?

 

[Soulkeeper]

so then you got what you wanted
good deal

 

[Duvie]

The extra cache may have bought you 5-10% max in apps ran on the same speed chips....theoretically that is...

the debacle was when amd went to the barton instead of making the 3000+ the same mhz as the 2800+ tbred and say the extra cache was the reason for the upgraded pr rating they gave it the upgraded pr rating then dropped the mhz to lower then a 2800+ tbred....ofcourse you may remember it didn't perform better then a 2800+ tbred on many apps and I think it barely beat or broke even with it in a host of test....

What is the speed of a 2500+ barton??? It may just be a hair better then a 2500+ tbred if there is one...the 5-10% is probably not even true then...

 

[LouPoir]

I have a Barton 2500. The extra cache really gives it a boost. I was not impressed with its overclock ability. Still cant find anything to beat my XP2100 (1.73mhz) at 2400mhz.

Lou

 

[touchmyichi]

Barton's are very nice overclockers, but Tbred B's are better buys still. Don't be ashamed u own a 2500+ though, its a great processsor. Like said the cache should help give you a preformance boost. It should overclock very nicely. I am personally waiting for either speed binned bartons or for a barton B. I think eventually amd will have to refresh the barton w/ a better core that will trickle down to the 2500+. I will jump on the boat if either of those happens.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: LouPoir
I have a Barton 2500. The extra cache really gives it a boost. I was not impressed with its overclock ability. Still cant find anything to beat my XP2100 (1.73mhz) at 2400mhz.

Lou

I didn't mean the cache did not deliver the 5-10% just the fact that the 5-10% may have been needed to make up the amd pr rating blunder and dropping the mhz on these chips....The 3000+ barton even in apps that like the cache it doens't seem to act like a 3000+...

Loupoir you have p4 and amd setups, right???

 

[LouPoir]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: LouPoir
I have a Barton 2500. The extra cache really gives it a boost. I was not impressed with its overclock ability. Still cant find anything to beat my XP2100 (1.73mhz) at 2400mhz.

Lou

I didn't mean the cache did not deliver the 5-10% just the fact that the 5-10% may have been needed to make up the amd pr rating blunder and dropping the mhz on these chips....The 3000+ barton even in apps that like the cache it doens't seem to act like a 3000+...

Loupoir you have p4 and amd setups, right???

Yup - have both P4 and AMD setup's - love the overclocking on the XP2100's.

Lou

 

[Huma]

i picked up a 2500+ because of the larger core size (for more better cooling).

I bumped it to 2800+ speeds no problem at all on an A7N8X just by raising the multiplier.

me = happy

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Huma
i picked up a 2500+ because of the larger core size (for more better cooling).

I bumped it to 2800+ speeds no problem at all on an A7N8X just by raising the multiplier.

me = happy

That's what it's all about so don't let anyone rain on your parade because the T-Breds are roughly equal in performance in most usage Have fun with your new toy

 

[94transam]

cool, thanks guys. I'm actually running at 167x11.5 right now. 1920. Its running pretty good. I gained 3000 points on 3dmark2001 between this and my 2100 at stock speeds. Thats very exceptable in my book.

 

[Huma]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: Huma
i picked up a 2500+ because of the larger core size (for more better cooling).

I bumped it to 2800+ speeds no problem at all on an A7N8X just by raising the multiplier.

me = happy

That's what it's all about so don't let anyone rain on your parade because the T-Breds are roughly equal in performance in most usage Have fun with your new toy

I used to be a wild and crazy overclocker back in the day. But now I'm all about a mad quiet and stable machine. I hadn't planned to overclock at all, but I bumped the multiplier just to see if it was locked and was amazed by the insanely easy oc. I've recommended a 2100+ to a friend who didn't want to spend as much though.

 

[94transam]

i did have the 2100 t-bred before this one and it is an awsome chip too. I really had to grit my teeth to make the jump to the barton.