Just bought a 2011 Jeep Patriot

FDF12389

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2.4L 4x4 5sp.

I love it! It can pull my boat, fit four or five adults, handle WI winters, take on some light off roading for hunting, and it gets 28mpg.

Its everything I need nothing I don't, I've wanted one of these since they came out :)
 

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Did they actually put low range in it?

One of them tried to offroad with some of the guys I go with. A Dodge diesel ended up having to drag it over a bunch of stuff because there was 4x4 but no low range.
 

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Did they actually put low range in it?

One of them tried to offroad with some of the guys I go with. A Dodge diesel ended up having to drag it over a bunch of stuff because there was 4x4 but no low range.

The rock crawling transmission with the really low low, is an extra cost option.
 

LTC8K6

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So you're saying that it has 4Hi, 4Lo and 4LoLo???

Well, I doubt that. :biggrin:

But they call it Rock Crawl, and it's different from the regular 4X4.

For one thing, it drops the highway economy a lot. Down to like 23mpg.
 

Numenorean

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Well, I doubt that. :biggrin:

But they call it Rock Crawl, and it's different from the regular 4X4.

For one thing, it drops the highway economy a lot. Down to like 23mpg.

So they probably just screwed with the diff gears more than the t-case.

At least there is an option, but I'm curious if the standard 4x4 has a low range now.
 

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Freedom Drive II uses the same hardware as the FDI system but adds a continuously variable transmission to simulate the benefits of a 19:1 low-range transfer case for off-road use. This function is an alternate program in the CVT and is not a transfer case function. FDII also adds hill descent control system, off-road tuned traction control, and electronic stability program. The Patriot with FDII also feature longer suspension travel, skid plates, tow hooks, and a full-size spare tire. This enables the FDII-equipped Patriot to wear the "Trail Rated" badge from Jeep.

From Wiki. This is what they call Rock Crawl when you order the vehicle.
 

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Freedom Drive II uses the same hardware as the FDI system but adds a continuously variable transmission to simulate the benefits of a 19:1 low-range transfer case for off-road use. This function is an alternate program in the CVT and is not a transfer case function. FDII also adds hill descent control system, off-road tuned traction control, and electronic stability program. The Patriot with FDII also feature longer suspension travel, skid plates, tow hooks, and a full-size spare tire. This enables the FDII-equipped Patriot to wear the "Trail Rated" badge from Jeep.

lol...so all in the transmission.

And their "Trail Rated" badge is a joke.
 

Numenorean

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A "trail rated" patriot may not be a beast offroad but it will be far better than the majority of small SUVs on the market.

True. I just think they have gone a little nuts with the Trail Rated thing. I'm waiting for a 4-Door Jeep Sedan to come out and be "Trail Rated".
 

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really? we got one as a rental and it was hands down the most uncomfortable car ive ever ridden in and driven
 

Bignate603

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really? we got one as a rental and it was hands down the most uncomfortable car ive ever ridden in and driven

I've never decided a car was bad based on a rental. The fleet versions of cars can royally suck, even if a normally equipped one isn't bad. Stack on some abuse of people that don't care, and you can take a decent car and turn it into a crap box.