Just another leaked/rumor performance of Fermi

SHAQ

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Those are a bit over the 10% faster rumors. More like 20-30%, but some games will be less than that I'm sure. The 470 should just about match the 5870 in those games.
 

happy medium

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Some nice pics here:
http://www.arabhardware.net/forum/showthread.php?t=136937&page=218Dirt 2 benches are cool, but FC2 generally runs better on NV hardware where even GTX275 almost matches 5850!
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd5830_7.html#sect1

Still good results :) Looking forward to renewed competition.

Seems the gtx 275 is beating the 5850 also in Dirt 2?
Those benchmarks are all screwed up.:rolleyes: Unless Nvidia drivers have given the gtx line a great boost.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd5830_11.html#sect1

Anand review with the gtx 275 even with the 4890 in Far cry 2. There is no Nvidia advantage in Far Cry 2.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3650&p=5
 
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RussianSensation

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Of course GTX275 is beating 5850 in Dirt 2, because Dirt2 is running DX11 on 5850:
"The lack of DirectX 11 support gives some advantage to the Radeon HD 4890 and GeForce GTX 275, yet the Radeon HD 5830 is again much slower than the HD 5850 and just a little better than the HD 5770."

Far Cry 2 either runs better on NV hardware or doesn't benefit as much from 5xxx architectural improvements (depends on how you want to look at it): http://ixbtlabs.com/articles3/i3dspeed/0210/itogi-video-fc-wxp-aaa-2560-pcie.html
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5850 is only 3 frames faster than GTX275 (almost consistent with results I posted above). GTX285 is just 10 frames slower than 5870. So, of course a 480 SP GTX480 will give a 5870 a whooping of its life in a game where a 240 SP card is on the heels of a 5870...

Far Cry 2 @ Firingsquad: http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/ati_radeon_hd_5830_performance/page7.asp
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Even GTX260 216 is beating a 5830!
5850 is only 12% faster than GTX 275 @ 1920x1200 4AA/8AF (55 vs. 49 frames). Think about it, 5850 is 20% faster than GTX285 and here it's just 12% faster than GTX275.

Why didn't they post 5870 vs. GTX480 @ STALKER: Call of Pripyat? Oh I know why, because that's a game that favours ATI 5xxx series:
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/ati_radeon_hd_5830_performance/page4.asp
 
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happy medium

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Of course GTX275 is beating 5850 in Dirt 2, because Dirt2 is running DX11 on 5850:
"The lack of DirectX 11 support gives some advantage to the Radeon HD 4890 and GeForce GTX 275, yet the Radeon HD 5830 is again much slower than the HD 5850 and just a little better than the HD 5770."

Far Cry 2 either runs better on NV hardware or doesn't benefit as much from 5xxx architectural improvements (depends on how you want to look at it): http://ixbtlabs.com/articles3/i3dspeed/0210/itogi-video-fc-wxp-aaa-2560-pcie.html
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5850 is only 3 frames faster than GTX275 (almost consistent with results I posted above). GTX285 is just 10 frames slower than 5870. So, of course a 480 SP GTX480 will give a 5870 a whooping of its life in a game where a 240 SP card is on the heels of a 5870...

Far Cry 2 @ Firingsquad: http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/ati_radeon_hd_5830_performance/page7.asp
^^^
Even GTX260 216 is beating a 5830!
5850 is only 12% faster than GTX 275 @ 1920x1200 4AA/8AF (55 vs. 49 frames). Think about it, 5850 is 20% faster than GTX285 and here it's just 12% faster than GTX275.

Why didn't they post 5870 vs. GTX480 @ STALKER: Call of Pripyat? Oh I know why, because that's a game that favours ATI 5xxx series:
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/ati_radeon_hd_5830_performance/page4.asp

gtx 275 is = or beating a 5850 in World at war also. I was under the impression that the 5850 would kill a gtx 275 in ALL benchies.

I don't trust those Xbit benchies. I usually read their site too.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd5830_7.html#sect2

A gtx 260 is not that much slower then a 4890 and a 4890 beats a 5830.
 

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Even at 8xAA the 5870 is faster than that in Dirt 2. Guru 3D has avg. 53fps 8xAA, 16xAF for Dirt 2 in Dx11. This FUD has the 5870 @ 38fps avg. w/4xAA.

Interesting that nVidia's own numbers for the 480 at 46.4fps @ 4xAA are slower than independent results for the 5870 @ 8xAA.

I can't find a no AA bench for FC2 for comparison.

Obviously we have to wait for independent results as these figures are skewed. We don't know what section(s) these benchmarks were taken from. They could be (actually more than likely are) one particular section that heavily favors the 480. Like the Unigine benchmark only showing the advantage in tessellation.
 

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Even at 8xAA the 5870 is faster than that in Dirt 2. Guru 3D has avg. 53fps 8xAA, 16xAF for Dirt 2 in Dx11. This FUD has the 5870 @ 38fps avg. w/4xAA.

Interesting that nVidia's own numbers for the 480 at 46.4fps @ 4xAA are slower than independent results for the 5870 @ 8xAA.

I can't find a no AA bench for FC2 for comparison.

This...

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/3190/his_radeon_hd_5870_icooler_v_turbo_video_card/index8.html

...has Sapphire 5870 at 19x12 = 113fps avg. Can't wait for the real benchies...this FUD/Rumorz is gettin oldz!

EK2K
 

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