Jury reaches verdict in Mayor Ray Nagin bribery case

[Texashiker]

A verdict has been reached,

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...t-in-ex-new-orleans-mayor-nagin-bribery-case/

A federal jury has convicted former New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin on charges that he accepted bribes, free trips and other gratuities from contractors in exchange for helping them secure millions of dollars in city work while he was in office.

The jury on Wednesday convicted Nagin of 20 of 21 counts against him.

On a side note, show me a city ran by democrats and I will show you a city riddled with corruption.

 

[dawp]

A verdict has been reached,

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...t-in-ex-new-orleans-mayor-nagin-bribery-case/





On a side note, show me a city ran by democrats and I will show you a city riddled with corruption.

new orleans has been corrupt for years, doesn't matter who runs it.

 

[Newell Steamer]

On a side note, show me a city ran by democrats and I will show you a city riddled with corruption.

Get a list together.

Here, you can follow this format if you like; http://www.liberalslikechrist.org/about/gopcorruption-2.html

 

[theeedude]

It's Obama's DOJ that nailed him, even thought he corruption took place under Bush.
Democrats are the only ones interested in cleaning up corruption in this country it seems.

 

[Jimzz]

Good and as I said in the other Nagin thread hope they do not go easy on him since he was a politician.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2366179&highlight=

 

[HomerJS]

Or maybe claim affluenza so he gets Club Med rehab.

Oh that's right, I forgot.

 

[brycejones]

On a side note, show me a city ran by democrats and I will show you a city riddled with corruption.

It's Obama's DOJ that nailed him, even thought he corruption took place under Bush.
Democrats are the only ones interested in cleaning up corruption in this country it seems.

Trying to turn this into a party spat is stupid. Guy was corrupt and was busted. To Senseamp's point, he was prosecuted under a Democratic administration. But I don't think we honestly believe if the conduct had to come to light earlier that a GOP administration would have let him off the hook either.

Unfortunately this kind of corrupt behavior doesn't really have party lines.

 

[DrPizza]

Why don't we have laws that punish those who are bribing officials? E.g., if it's proven that a city official is guilty of accepting bribes from company A to get a contract in that city; then shouldn't the agent of company A who offered the bribe also end up in jail, else that company be fined?

 

[chucky2]

Why don't we have laws that punish those who are bribing officials? E.g., if it's proven that a city official is guilty of accepting bribes from company A to get a contract in that city; then shouldn't the agent of company A who offered the bribe also end up in jail, else that company be fined?

I'd actually go further and say not only does the agent(s) go to jail (for longer than the sentence of the Gov official(s), but that the company, and any companies the owners and Board of those companies are a part of, also are barred from receiving any Gov work while either the Gov official(s) and agent(s) are in jail - crimes should not be eligible for parole.

You need to make it so painful for those directly taking part of the bribing, and the Leadership of the companies they work for, that from the top it is so not tolerated that people with proper ethics are hired and managed correctly. Doesn't matter if company takes easy way out and goes bankrupt, whatever new company Leadership tries to start and bids jobs on still won't be allowed Gov contracts. Get rid of the bad Leadership, existing company still barred from Gov contracts.

Chuck

 

[nageov3t]

heavens, corruption in New Orleans?

well I never...

 

[werepossum]

I'd actually go further and say not only does the agent(s) go to jail (for longer than the sentence of the Gov official(s), but that the company, and any companies the owners and Board of those companies are a part of, also are barred from receiving any Gov work while either the Gov official(s) and agent(s) are in jail - crimes should not be eligible for parole.

You need to make it so painful for those directly taking part of the bribing, and the Leadership of the companies they work for, that from the top it is so not tolerated that people with proper ethics are hired and managed correctly. Doesn't matter if company takes easy way out and goes bankrupt, whatever new company Leadership tries to start and bids jobs on still won't be allowed Gov contracts. Get rid of the bad Leadership, existing company still barred from Gov contracts.

Chuck

Such companies generally are banned from receiving government work for some period of time, but it's very rare that anyone goes to prison. This should change. Companies don't decide to break laws, people in companies decide to break laws, and those people (in addition to the sanctions against the companies) need to be held accountable.

 

[Texashiker]

Trying to turn this into a party spat is stupid.

Really?

Show me a republican controlled area that comes anywhere near the level of poverty and corruption as one controlled by a democrat.

What do detroit and new orleans have in common? Could it be that they were controlled by democrats?

 

[chucky2]

Such companies generally are banned from receiving government work for some period of time, but it's very rare that anyone goes to prison. This should change. Companies don't decide to break laws, people in companies decide to break laws, and those people (in addition to the sanctions against the companies) need to be held accountable.

And as you note, that's exactly what needs to change. These agents of the company need to be aware that if/when they are caught, they are going to jail also. The Execs that are allowing the culture of impropriety to happen need to understand that not only will their current company suffer, that when they pull their slickness and leave that company for another, that that company will also suffer and thus, when that company finds out they can't participate in any Gov bidding, will either not allow that Exec on or if after the fact fire them. The same Execs need to understand that when they try to start their new company under a different name to weasel out of their old company being locked out of Gov bidding, that that new company is also blacklisted. They, and anyone who would employ them, should understand anything they'll be associated with will become a paraiah to Gov work.

Unfortunately we can't execute these slimeballs so really that's the best that reasonably can be pushed through (and it'd be a push, because you know all the Politicians and the businesses they're in bed with would resist such legislation in every way possible).

Chuck

 

[Sonikku]

Why don't we have laws that punish those who are bribing officials? E.g., if it's proven that a city official is guilty of accepting bribes from company A to get a contract in that city; then shouldn't the agent of company A who offered the bribe also end up in jail, else that company be fined?

No.

Donations of cash = free speech.

Why are you trying to squash free speech?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

It's Obama's DOJ that nailed him, even thought he corruption took place under Bush.
Democrats are the only ones interested in cleaning up corruption in this country it seems.

 

[chucky2]

No.

Donations of cash = free speech.

Why are you trying to squash free speech?

I'd rather make a donation of rope to Gov employees clearly corrupted. Leave them hanging in public for a while, would really be a positive social experience. :thumbsup: