Jury Duty

[SunSamurai]

Being forced into serving the state?
Being an American and doing your duty regardless of if you want to or not?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Taxation; awesome, or a violation of property rights?

 

[theflyingpig]

Being forced into serving the state?
Being an American and doing your duty regardless of if you want to or not?

Pathetic. Seeing both of your so-called 'choices' shows just how far America has fallen. This is the direct result of the liberal infection spreading throughout this nation, and it disgusts me. Everyone knows this.

 

[Moonbeam]

Pathetic. Seeing both of your so-called 'choices' shows just how far America has fallen. This is the direct result of the liberal infection spreading throughout this nation, and it disgusts me. Everyone knows this.

Maybe 5 of the stupidest people on earth believe they know it.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Being forced into serving the state?
Being an American and doing your duty regardless of if you want to or not?

Obviously you've never heard of the draft?

I don't even know where to start so I wont. How would you receive your right to be tried by a jury of your peers if everyone was an ignorant tool like you?

Yes, it's never convenient. Yes, the pay sucks. But it's a core tenet of our justice system. Quit being a whiney pussy and just go.

 

[Craig234]

Being forced into serving the state?
Being an American and doing your duty regardless of if you want to or not?

It's remarkable the ignorance of what America is. America includes 'public obligations' AND freedom from tyranny. The thing is, there's this ideological faction who don't understand the obligation to society part and who think everything is 'tyranny'. They're the ones who are not American, because in what seems to be their childish playpen, they don't seem to understand the society has criminals justice needs which are well served by the jury system that requires people to serve on it.

They can't seem to tell the difference between jury duty and being put in prison for criticizing the President (something our 2nd President thought was an excellent idea).

The funny thing is how these people don't just advocate their childish views, they call them 'really American', when they're not, they're at odds with what's 'really American'.

Look at our history andit's filled with the idea of the society doing things that require people to help and are good for the society - balanced with individual rights.

As the height of our national paranoia of communism, thenation under a Republican President and Congress did not change the 90% top tax rate.

What we have had is a big propaganda move that's greatly increased the numbers of people who are bamboozled into this other ideology.

BTW, I had jury duty this week; it was after I missed the date in November, and they said 'it's ok you weren't called' and I asked them to add me again sooner than normal.

 

[TwinsenTacquito]

Meh, I dunno. Doesn't seem too overwhelming. Gives us some power over the government by being able to nullify. Better than a judge.

I'd have to look into it more to say no.

 

[Nielsio]

Jury Duty; Awesome, or a violation of freedom?

Given that the people who are being forced to do these things didn't agree to it beforehand I would have to say a violation of freedom.

Forcing people to do things they didn't sign up for assumes that the one doing the forcing owns those people.

Now some may say that you choose to live on this piece of land called America and therefore you have to serve the state, but this doesn't establish the basis for the state's authority; it simply asserts it.

 

[bamacre]

Even if jury duty is a breech on freedoms, it's gotta be the least of our worries.

 

[nageov3t]

my core problem with jury duty is how much it can potentially screw someone over.

in NJ, you get compensated something obscene like $5/day... the court house doesn't provide parking either, so right there you're $15 in the whole per day, plus you've got to eat take-out for lunch since there's no accommodations to refrigerate anything even if you wanted to bring your own food. add to that the fact that if you're an hourly employee, you're not going to be compensated for the days you miss.

 

[Nielsio]

Even if jury duty is a breech on freedoms, it's gotta be the least of our worries.

I'd rather not partake in anything state-related and stay as far away from them as I can.

 

[Matthiasa]

The only thing jury duty does is violate the rights of anyone that needs them. They usually end up with the dumbest of the dumb on the jury no matter what.

 

[Moonbeam]

Any liberal with a good union job loves jury duty because you get paid but you don't have to go to work. And if it's a white collar crime you are trying you get to stick it to the rich with an automatic guilty.

Of course if everybody did their job and served, assholes like me would have less chance to be seated.

 

[Dissipate]

Even if jury duty is a breech on freedoms, it's gotta be the least of our worries.

It is actually the most of our worries. The concept of jury duty, or involuntary servitude, while it seems innocuous at first glance, is the foundation of tyranny. It is the foundation of the concept That the state's programs trumps an individuals time and energy.

Needless to say, when I received my jury duty notice a few months ago, I shredded it on the spot. I did the same with my 2010 Census.

 

[Anarchist420]

I think forced Jury Duty should be illegal. I favor an inquisitory system.

 

[SunSamurai]

Interesting Interesting. People trying to justify it by associating it with things like taxes, something that without the country would collapse. Would the country collape if you had to stay at work instead of hear about some court case about people you dont know nor care about and will never hear from again?

Hmmmm

/jots down information in the willing slave category

 

[SunSamurai]

Any liberal with a good union job loves jury duty because you get paid but you don't have to go to work. And if it's a white collar crime you are trying you get to stick it to the rich with an automatic guilty.

Of course if everybody did their job and served, assholes like me would have less chance to be seated.

Indeed. Jury duty for a lazy america

wait....

 

[SunSamurai]

I think forced Jury Duty should be illegal. I favor an inquisitory system.

If they do that, I want the board to be made entirely of Spaniards.

Nobody would expect it.

 

[SunSamurai]

Given that the people who are being forced to do these things didn't agree to it beforehand I would have to say a violation of freedom.

Forcing people to do things they didn't sign up for assumes that the one doing the forcing owns those people.

Now some may say that you choose to live on this piece of land called America and therefore you have to serve the state, but this doesn't establish the basis for the state's authority; it simply asserts it.

See, I'm all for the getting power and being able to participate in the goings on of the justice system as a citizen.

Here is the thing though; youre not being given power. Youre being forced to make a dictation and at best is going to be annoying, and at worst is going to be a real intrusion on your daily life unless you act like a bigot.

Jury Duty needs an OPT IN. Thats American. Thats power. The system now is not, and if you want to sit there and say "its not that big a deal" then here is a little quote for you:
Those who give up a little freedom for a little security, deserve neither freedom, nor security. -Benjamin Franklin

 

[Brainonska511]

It is actually the most of our worries. The concept of jury duty, or involuntary servitude, while it seems innocuous at first glance, is the foundation of tyranny. It is the foundation of the concept That the state's programs trumps an individuals time and energy.

Needless to say, when I received my jury duty notice a few months ago, I shredded it on the spot. I did the same with my 2010 Census.

I bet you feel proud of your self for holding such asinine views. Have a gold star.

 

[Infohawk]

We should only have juries for criminal cases. We waste a lot of time having juries for civil cases.

With that said, it's tiring to see this radical sense of entitlement people have with respect to democracy. Democracy is not free. The alternative is essentially slavery. To avoid slavery we have to support our democracy. We are lucky that we have a professional army and that the biggest service most people give is jury duty and paying taxes.

 

[God Mode]

Just have a televised telethon and have people call to "send in their votes" now! Text 1 for guilty or 2 for not guilty. Think of the marketing and profit capabilities.

 

[Nielsio]

With that said, it's tiring to see this radical sense of entitlement people have with respect to democracy. Democracy is not free. The alternative is essentially slavery. To avoid slavery we have to support our democracy.

Democracy is slavery. The alternative to slavery is not some other form of slavery.

We are lucky that we have a professional army and that the biggest service most people give is jury duty and paying taxes.

If you have to work 5 months of every year just to pay taxes then this is a form of service.

 

[Moonbeam]

It is actually the most of our worries. The concept of jury duty, or involuntary servitude, while it seems innocuous at first glance, is the foundation of tyranny. It is the foundation of the concept That the state's programs trumps an individuals time and energy.

Needless to say, when I received my jury duty notice a few months ago, I shredded it on the spot. I did the same with my 2010 Census.

Those in psychological chains project that out on the world as a threat to their personal freedom. Nobody wants to know the prison one has created by self hate.

Free your mind and you will not suffer as a slave. But, of course, it will mean you have to die to all the nonsense you believe. You have to swim to freedom but you won't ford that river carrying a thousand pounds of cabbage.

 

[God Mode]

Democracy is slavery. The alternative to slavery is not some other form of slavery.

Some people prefer semi-slavery dusted with a bit of democracy compared to living in fear of gangs with the biggest guns and pretty much being told what to do by brute force.