Judicial Watch study: voter id laws increase minority turnout

[fskimospy]

Because a study conflicts with your beliefs you get your panties in a knot.

You sir are arrogant. When presented with evidence that your beliefs are wrong, you call the person presenting the evidence names.

You need to reexamine why you think voting id laws suppress voters. What you believe is wrong. You have no evidence or study, nothing of substance to affirm your stance.

Because you have no evidence, I am trolling?

No. You have been repeatedly told why your evidence is bullshit and how the conclusions you are trying to draw are illogical. You continue to ignore the criticisms of your "study" and repeat yourself over and over again.

This is why at this point you must be trolling; nobody is this dumb.

 

[Texashiker]

Since you eskimospy seem to have these firm beliefs and disregard a study at your given whelm, lets use wikipedia and the washington post.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_ID_laws_in_the_United_States#Studies_and_analysis

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ghest-and-lowest-turnout-in-2012-in-2-charts/

Voter turnout by state and if that state requires voter id:

Minnesota - no id required
Wisconsin - photo id required
Colorado - as of 2013 no id required
New Hampshire - photo id required
Iowa - photo id required
Maine - no id
Virginia - photo id required
Maryland - photo id required

5 of the top 8 states require id

 

[fskimospy]

Since you eskimospy seem to have these firm beliefs and disregard a study at your given whelm, lets use wikipedia and the washington post.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_ID_laws_in_the_United_States#Studies_and_analysis

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ghest-and-lowest-turnout-in-2012-in-2-charts/

Voter turnout by state and if that state requires voter id:

Minnesota - no id required
Wisconsin - photo id required
Colorado - as of 2013 no id required
New Hampshire - photo id required
Iowa - photo id required
Maine - no id
Virginia - photo id required
Maryland - photo id required

5 of the top 8 states require id

Yes, lets.

You realize you just linked to a page where the only mention of effect of voter ID on turnout was one study that said it negatively affected turnout and then a smaller investigation on two states where they saw no effect on turnout. ie: on the whole your wikipedia link disproves your position.

Quoted for self ownage.

 

[xBiffx]

Since you eskimospy seem to have these firm beliefs and disregard a study at your given whelm, lets use wikipedia and the washington post.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_ID_laws_in_the_United_States#Studies_and_analysis

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ghest-and-lowest-turnout-in-2012-in-2-charts/

Voter turnout by state and if that state requires voter id:

Minnesota - no id required
Wisconsin - photo id required
Colorado - as of 2013 no id required
New Hampshire - photo id required
Iowa - photo id required
Maine - no id
Virginia - photo id required
Maryland - photo id required

5 of the top 8 states require id

Iowa does not require photo ID. Re-read your link.

 

[Texashiker]

Yes, lets.

You realize you just linked to a page where the only mention of effect of voter ID on turnout was one study that said it negatively affected turnout and then a smaller investigation on two states where they saw no effect on turnout. ie: on the whole your wikipedia link disproves your position.

Quoted for self ownage.

Show me a state or study where voter id negatively affects voter turn out.

 

[fskimospy]

Show me a state or study where voter id negatively affects voter turn out.

You linked to one yourself you moron.

 

[Texashiker]

You linked to one yourself you moron.

Did you take the time to compare state turnout as compared to requiring a photo id?

Probably not because you are mindset that photo id hurts voter turnout.

~ EDIT ~

I am going to love it when voting percentages go up after these voting id laws go into full effect.

Lets wait until after the 2014 elections and revisit this topic.

 

[fskimospy]

Did you take the time to compare state turnout as compared to requiring a photo id?

Probably not because you are mindset that photo id hurts voter turnout.

~ EDIT ~

I am going to love it when voting percentages go up after these voting id laws go into full effect.

Lets wait until after the 2014 elections and revisit this topic.

See? This is exactly what I'm talking about. You linked to a wiki page that actually argued against your position overall, when informed of that you ignored it and asked for a study, when informed your self-owning wiki link included a study saying that you ignored that as well and soldiered on.

Like I said, you're either trolling or the stupidest man alive.

 

[Texashiker]

See? This is exactly what I'm talking about.

Lets see what the 2014 elections look like.

If the judicial watch study is correct, we will see an increase in the number of voters in states with voting id laws.

Are you worried that the judical watch study will be right and you will be wrong?

For someone who takes pride in being right all the time, you have a lot to be worried about.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Since you eskimospy seem to have these firm beliefs and disregard a study at your given whelm, lets use wikipedia and the washington post.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_ID_laws_in_the_United_States#Studies_and_analysis

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ghest-and-lowest-turnout-in-2012-in-2-charts/

Voter turnout by state and if that state requires voter id:

Minnesota - no id required
Wisconsin - photo id required
Colorado - as of 2013 no id required
New Hampshire - photo id required
Iowa - photo id required
Maine - no id
Virginia - photo id required
Maryland - photo id required

5 of the top 8 states require id

So, let's look closer


Wisconsin - Photo ID is NOT currently requried. Injunctions were issued in 2012.

New Hampshire - Allows for executing an affidavit at the polls. No photo ID required.

Iowa - Photo ID only required to register at the poll same day. Non-photo options available otherwise.

Virginia - Hey look, you got one

Maryland - When did Photo ID come into place in Maryland? Are they even in place yet? Your chart is for the 2012 election.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Lets see what the 2014 elections look like.

If the judicial watch study is correct, we will see an increase in the number of voters in states with voting id laws.

Population of State goes up.
TH points to more people voting to prove his point

 

[Texashiker]

Population of State goes up.
TH points to more people voting to prove his point

Don't try to weasel your way out of this.

Population growth can be charted and compared directly to voting rates.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Don't try to weasel your way out of this.

Population growth can be charted and compared directly to voting rates.

Yes, it can

 

[Pens1566]

I need to see a study of the study before I'll believe the study.

 

[xBiffx]

I need to see a study of the study before I'll believe the study.

 

[HomerJS]

A 2005 report by Jimmy Carter and James Baker concluded that concerns of both those who support and oppose strengthened voter ID laws were legitimate. It recommended voter ID requirements be enacted, to be slowly phased in over a period of five years, and accompanied by the issuance of free ID cards provided by mobile ID vans that would visit traditionally underserved communities.[26]

All sides would be ok with this. Instead Republicans want...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuOT1bRYdK8

 

[xBiffx]

All sides would be ok with this. Instead Republicans want...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuOT1bRYdK8

Yet, we've been talking about it for more than 5 years. So I have to call into question the statement that all sides would be ok with this. Apparently not because if they were ok with it, we wouldn't still be arguing over the merits of it.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Do you have a study to dispute the judicial watch study?

Do you have a study that deal with actual elections and not party primaries?