Judge who blocked do-not-call registry is on list
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I agree with this judge 100%. It IS a violation of free speech for one group (telemarketers, in this instance) to be banned from calling people but another group (politicians and charities) to be allowed to call at will.
If you replace telemarketers with black and politicians with white, there would be no question that this is unconstitutional, and that is the way that the law is meant to be interpreted. What a group is or isn't should have no merit over their rights under the law.
If you replace telemarketers with black and politicians with white, there would be no question that this is unconstitutional, and that is the way that the law is meant to be interpreted. What a group is or isn't should have no merit over their rights under the law.
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Lifer
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Originally posted by: spanky
yeah, he should know better!
Now what I don't understand about this is... why do the telemarketers WANT to block this list? It lets them avoid wasting time calling people who don't want to buy their crap. Unless I guess if people sign their elderly relatives up on the list... I imagine old people make up most of their customers.I think we're going to get everything we want out of this DNC list, thanks to this judge.
Judge doesn't care about votes. He's doing his job under the law, and a fine job at that I might add as I'm sure there was some *ahem* pressure to rule in a different manner.
Congressmen care about votes and theres ~50 million votes at stake that want this thing to work.
Judge says "You cannae have it both ways. Everybody calls or nobody calls."
Congressmen go, "Hmmm. Give up soliciting people at home OR give up 50 million votes."
And the American people win. I hope.
Judge doesn't care about votes. He's doing his job under the law, and a fine job at that I might add as I'm sure there was some *ahem* pressure to rule in a different manner.
Congressmen care about votes and theres ~50 million votes at stake that want this thing to work.
Judge says "You cannae have it both ways. Everybody calls or nobody calls."
Congressmen go, "Hmmm. Give up soliciting people at home OR give up 50 million votes."
And the American people win. I hope.
Because they know that eventually, everyone (or almost everyone) will be on the list.
Here's a scenario.
There are x Americans with telephones. They receive y phone calls from telemarketers per day.
DNC law makes it so that z Americans cannot be called. Thus leaving x-z Americans available for calls, increasing the call rate to y(x/z) assuming that the number of employed telemarketers remains the same.
As you can see, the more people get pissed off, the fewer people there are available to call and in a perfect situation, that means the people available for calls get proportionally more calls. Causing them to opt-out. And the cycle repeats.
This is not a free speech violation, I pay for that phone service, not the telemarketers. They are invading my privacy, using my phone line and service that I pay for to try and sell me goods and services during the only time I have with my family.
I have every right to only take calls from black callers if I want (or vice versa). This is my service they are intruding on, not a public forum where they have a right to be heard.
Bill
I and I'm sure the judge agree with everyone's sentiment that you have the right to not take calls from anyone you want.
The problem with this law was that it created an inclusive list and exclusive list. The point of contention wasn't that such a list was unconstitutional so much as banning calls from one group but not another is unconstitutional.
I say again this was a fair decision.
The problem with this law was that it created an inclusive list and exclusive list. The point of contention wasn't that such a list was unconstitutional so much as banning calls from one group but not another is unconstitutional.
I say again this was a fair decision.
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