Judge Upholds Illinois School's Ban on 'Be Happy, Not Gay' Shirt

[Andy22]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: K1052
The other guys at my Catholic high school sure enjoyed the...ah...benefits of a dress code (think skirts and a building with a lot of stairs).

Mmm, Catholic schoolgirl outfits ...

- M4H

I drive by a Catholic School every day when I go to the gym. Their skirts are so high you can almost see their butt cheeks. Nothing like feeling like a dirty old man...

Riiiight...more like you drive 5 miles out of your way to go by the Catholic School

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: GoPackGo

Originally posted by: Thraxen
We couldn't even were shirts with slogans at my HS. Hell, by the time I graduated we couldn't even wear T-shirts period. Pretty much takes care of all this non-sense.

Facism FTL!

Including the girls?

I don't think I would have gotten any work done in the summer months. :Q

- M4H

Thats why you dont go to school the summer

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Andy22

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: K1052
The other guys at my Catholic high school sure enjoyed the...ah...benefits of a dress code (think skirts and a building with a lot of stairs).

Mmm, Catholic schoolgirl outfits ...

- M4H

I drive by a Catholic School every day when I go to the gym. Their skirts are so high you can almost see their butt cheeks. Nothing like feeling like a dirty old man...

Riiiight...more like you drive 5 miles out of your way to go by the Catholic School

Unfortunately, it's right on the way on the main drag through town. K1052 can testify to this. He used to live here.

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: K1052

I am not debating the school's right to enforce a dress code, I fully support it in fact. My issue is the vagueness of what is acceptable in the way of slogans/messages on clothing and how it basically comes down to a judgment call on the part of the school admins. They left a big gray area that is now biting them in the ass.

How do we know that school's code is vague? I don't see a copy or a link of their policy in this thread aniywhere. If they have a ban on shirts with "disruptive" messages, then that's probably good enough for them to win any case. It's better for them to be general than to only ban specific things and then let the students search for loopholes.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Andy22

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: K1052
The other guys at my Catholic high school sure enjoyed the...ah...benefits of a dress code (think skirts and a building with a lot of stairs).

Mmm, Catholic schoolgirl outfits ...

- M4H

I drive by a Catholic School every day when I go to the gym. Their skirts are so high you can almost see their butt cheeks. Nothing like feeling like a dirty old man...

Riiiight...more like you drive 5 miles out of your way to go by the Catholic School

Unfortunately, it's right on the way on the main drag through town. K1052 can testify to this. He used to live here.

Yep, right between two main E/W streets. That was my school.

There was a periodic decree from the principal that girls should cease rolling their skirts to make them shorter. Enforcement only lasted a week or so then things went right back. Too bad I never got the benefit of that particular perk.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: yowolabi

Originally posted by: K1052

I am not debating the school's right to enforce a dress code, I fully support it in fact. My issue is the vagueness of what is acceptable in the way of slogans/messages on clothing and how it basically comes down to a judgment call on the part of the school admins. They left a big gray area that is now biting them in the ass.

How do we know that school's code is vague? I don't see a copy or a link of their policy in this thread aniywhere. If they have a ban on shirts with "disruptive" messages, then that's probably good enough for them to win any case. It's better for them to be general than to only ban specific things and then let the students search for loopholes.

My brother lives almost next to the school in question. I've seen the students on a number of occasions. The dress code isn't strict.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Andy22

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: K1052
The other guys at my Catholic high school sure enjoyed the...ah...benefits of a dress code (think skirts and a building with a lot of stairs).

Mmm, Catholic schoolgirl outfits ...

- M4H

I drive by a Catholic School every day when I go to the gym. Their skirts are so high you can almost see their butt cheeks. Nothing like feeling like a dirty old man...

Riiiight...more like you drive 5 miles out of your way to go by the Catholic School

Unfortunately, it's right on the way on the main drag through town. K1052 can testify to this. He used to live here.

Yep, right between two main E/W streets. That was my school.

There was a periodic decree from the principal that girls should cease rolling their skirts to make them shorter. Enforcement only lasted a week or so then things went right back. Too bad I never got the benefit of that particular perk.

Well, I can understand why it didn't work for you, but unfortunately it's distracting as hell for me... and all of them are young enough to be my freakin' daughters.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Andy22

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: K1052
The other guys at my Catholic high school sure enjoyed the...ah...benefits of a dress code (think skirts and a building with a lot of stairs).

Mmm, Catholic schoolgirl outfits ...

- M4H

I drive by a Catholic School every day when I go to the gym. Their skirts are so high you can almost see their butt cheeks. Nothing like feeling like a dirty old man...

Riiiight...more like you drive 5 miles out of your way to go by the Catholic School

Unfortunately, it's right on the way on the main drag through town. K1052 can testify to this. He used to live here.

Yep, right between two main E/W streets. That was my school.

There was a periodic decree from the principal that girls should cease rolling their skirts to make them shorter. Enforcement only lasted a week or so then things went right back. Too bad I never got the benefit of that particular perk.

Well, I can understand why it didn't work for you, but unfortunately it's distracting as hell for me... and all of them are young enough to be my freakin' daughters.

I feel your pain since my daily train goes right by De Paul up here. Though at least I can relax and enjoy the show since I don't have to operate a motor vehicle.

 

[clamum]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: clamum
While I don't agree with their retarded shirts, I guess it's their right to be dumbasses if they want.

So the school has no power to uphold a dress code?

No, I guess the school does have the power, and there are schools that do enforce such a law... but I guess doesn't that conflict with the first amendment? Or that only protects federal rights, correct?

 

[Demon-Xanth]

This is one of those cases where I disagree with both parties. They shouldn't wear the shirts, but the school shouldn't stop them.

 

[thirdlegstump]

Principal would probably allow it if they added "..except girls!"

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: clamum

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: clamum
While I don't agree with their retarded shirts, I guess it's their right to be dumbasses if they want.

So the school has no power to uphold a dress code?

No, I guess the school does have the power, and there are schools that do enforce such a law... but I guess doesn't that conflict with the first amendment? Or that only protects federal rights, correct?

Can you imagine unrestrained 1st amendment rights in a school?

Of course not. A school must maintain order and not allow disruptions. A school should have all the rights an employer has to impose and enforce rules.

 

[Whisper]

The school has the right to designate proper attire as it sees fit; if the school decides it doesn't want to allow shirts that contain derogatory statements towards groups of people, then it's well within its power to do so.