Judge orders lesbian air force flight nurse reinstated

[pcgeek11]

but is adultery a dis-chargeable offense?

Yes, it can be punishable by a less than honorable discharge or even federal jail time or both. " and shall be punished at the discretion of that court." . It has been done many times before with straight people. There is no reason it wouldn't or shouldn't be used on the queer people among us too.

That is where they screwed up. Instead of giving here an administrative discharge under DADT. They should have given her the due process via a court martial for adultery. Let her stew it off in jail for a while and then give her the dishonorable discharge she deserves. If they had the Civilian Courts wouldn't be able to say a damn thing about it.

 

[Robor]

Yes, it can be punishable by a less than honorable discharge or even federal jail time or both. " and shall be punished at the discretion of that court." . It has been done many times before with straight people. There is no reason it wouldn't or shouldn't be used on the queer people among us too.

Wow. How many bigoted stereotypes can I substitute for "queer people" in that statement?

 

[pcgeek11]

Wow. How many bigoted stereotypes can I substitute for "queer people" in that statement?

What is wrong with that? It isn't bigoted? I don't see where Gay is any more acceptable than Queer.

Queer –adjective

1. Strange or odd from a conventional viewpoint; unusually different; singular: a queer notion of justice.

Gay, Queer, Homosexual, .... They are all just words.

Gay –adjective

1. Having or showing a merry, lively mood: gay spirits; gay music.

I think queer fits better than gay. They are unusually different, strange and odd from my viewpoint.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

What is wrong with that? It isn't bigoted? I don't see where Gay is any more acceptable than Queer.

Queer –adjective

1. Strange or odd from a conventional viewpoint; unusually different; singular: a queer notion of justice.

Gay, Queer, Homosexual, .... They are all just words.

Gay –adjective

1. Having or showing a merry, lively mood: gay spirits; gay music.

I think queer fits better than gay. They are unusually different, strange and odd from my viewpoint.

You do realise that by bringing this up and being for it you are effectivly dismissing ALL troops the US has today since the act of sodomy and carnal fornication applies to oral sex even WITHIN A MARRIAGE? (this is based on Anglican law, and boy, i know Anglican law better than you know the back of your fathers five fingers)

Be very careful what you wish for.

Word usage doesn't matter much though, you can tell that homofag that he's queer, he won't give a fuck, he's a soldier, you're a twat.

A silly little twat, that is all you are.

 

[dawp]

Yes, it can be punishable by a less than honorable discharge or even federal jail time or both. " and shall be punished at the discretion of that court." . It has been done many times before with straight people. There is no reason it wouldn't or shouldn't be used on the queer people among us too.

That is where they screwed up. Instead of giving here an administrative discharge under DADT. They should have given her the due process via a court martial for adultery. Let her stew it off in jail for a while and then give her the dishonorable discharge she deserves. If they had the Civilian Courts wouldn't be able to say a damn thing about it.

Do you have anything that back up your claim that she committed adultery? I haven't seen any.

 

[hal2kilo]

According to John McCain, she can't be reinstated because she was never thrown out because she never told because that is not the policy and that is the fact and he doesn't care what you say, he knows the military very well and that is not the policy, that is not the policy, that is not the policy.

Apparently, the senile old bastard doesn't know the difference between policy and practice. Of couse it's not policy as that would be illegal. But, he continued to blabber on. Quite hilarious, but sad.

 

[Carmen813]

Seriously, though, I thought the military operated on a different set of rules, constitutional rights of citizens are not necessarily applicable to military personnel.

Negative Ghostrider. There are additional rules regarding behavior, but you do not give up your citizenship by serving in the military.

 

[classy]

Do you have anything that back up your claim that she committed adultery? I haven't seen any.

Now I don't know the whole story on what grounds the used to dismiss her, but she did commit adultery. The woman's husband she was sleeping with called the Air Force to report her.

 

[jonks]

Fortunately, 'The Old Man and the C' followed a disaster and prevented that. Sadly, it appears as though people forgot 2001-2009 and stupidity will repeat itself in Nov.

Yes, but it may be a secret blessing. With the dems holding both houses and the WH it was easy for the pubs to point the finger. Let them pick up some big wins this year and then they have to share the responsibility (blame) for things not getting better in a heartbeat. I'd rather them have a strong 2010 than 2012.

 

[ahenkel]

Now I don't know the whole story on what grounds the used to dismiss her, but she did commit adultery. The woman's husband she was sleeping with called the Air Force to report her.

They started a DADT investigation and she admitted to have same sex sexual encounters. They never even approached the subject of an article 134. Which is harder to prove, as the military has to show the adultery would bring harm to the armed forces. Cheating in the military isn't automatically a crime that ends in dismissal unlike violating DADT.

 

[pcgeek11]

Do you have anything that back up your claim that she committed adultery? I haven't seen any.

Read the court ruling linked earlier it's in there.... Adultery she did with a married woman.!

 

[pcgeek11]

Negative Ghostrider. There are additional rules regarding behavior, but you do not give up your citizenship by serving in the military.

This is quite incorrect. As a 20 year veteran I'll tell you that you do NOT have all the rights afforded to a civilian. And under the UCMJ the facts do not have to be as clearly defined as in a civilian court.

 

[pcgeek11]

You do realise that by bringing this up and being for it you are effectivly dismissing ALL troops the US has today since the act of sodomy and carnal fornication applies to oral sex even WITHIN A MARRIAGE? (this is based on Anglican law, and boy, i know Anglican law better than you know the back of your fathers five fingers)

Be very careful what you wish for.

Word usage doesn't matter much though, you can tell that homofag that he's queer, he won't give a fuck, he's a soldier, you're a twat.

A silly little twat, that is all you are.

Ignored for ignorance! Fuckin Limey.

 

[glenn1]

So Ms. Parks should have just shut up and got to the back of the bus as her staying put may have caused a backlash?

I have trouble finding any similarity between this woman and Rosa Parks.

And I know you may find this hard to believe, but I would be willing to allow this woman's reinstatement into the military to be delayed a couple months, if doing so means avoiding a potential backlash that leads to a general prohibition against every other gay person in the military. IMHO, the delivery of the commission report on gays in the military in December is likely to prompt a vast change in the political landscape of this issue, and will allow a strategic breakthrough for a durable, comprehensive, and holistic solution instead of a tactical victory for this one person.