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Judge dismisses Valerie Plame's lawsuit
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I guess he missed the press conference where Bush stated somebody in his Admin released the name...
Good. Every party to this , Bush co., Wilson, and Plame are scumbags in my opinion. Plame used her influence in the CIA to undermine the Bush admin, Wilson went right along with it with a preset agenda, and Bush retaliated in a way just as bad. All sides to this are wrong.
yep...that would be Richard Armitage, Colin Powell's minion. And Fitzgerald KNEW he was the source of the leak BEFORE he began an investigation. Fitzpatrick never charged Armitage with anything...gee, i wonder why? The whole investigation was an attempt to spring a perjury trap, and it worked. Fitz never charged Armitage with a crime, BECAUSE NO CRIME WAS COMMITTED...
politcal theater...and Bush put an end to it with the comminution of the sentance (and the eventual pardon that will follow)...
move along, nothing here to see....
It's possible, but I NEVER take anything from a POS source like Drudge seriously until there's corroboration from real human beings. :roll:
For your consideration while we're waitinghttp://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1214526,00.html:
I hope the suit continues. The nation needs the truth it could disclose.
Armitage and Libby both knew, but Armitage didn't have direct access to the information. Somebody else leaked the name, but hasn't been fired, as bush said he would do. Libby was fronting for somebody else and fell on the sword to hide who it was. Ironically, Cheney demanded Bush commute Libby's sentence. Why is that?
We've already had dozens of threads on this, but the usual suspects are still spinning their useless talking points that were debunked long ago.
There is no such thing as a 'perjury trap' unless you plan on lying as Scooter did, that's a trap of his own creation.
There is no such thing as a 'perjury trap' unless you plan on lying as Scooter did, that's a trap of his own creation.
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Umm... That's not what he was convicted of. Armitrage leaked Plame's name. And apparently what he did wasn't a crime because Fitz barely gave him a sniff. Why the administratin thought they had to cover this up I'll never know. Maybe it was just a reflex?
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The case was dismissed because the judge claimed he doesn't have jurisdiction:
Of course, i imagine the neo-con supporters will spin this as some sort of 'vindication'.
The case was dismissed because the judge claimed he doesn't have jurisdiction:
Of course, i imagine the neo-con supporters will spin this as some sort of 'vindication'.
Your months late to the party, and you're spouting the discredited Bushwhacko dogma from that time.
Yes, Libby did commit a crime. In fact, he was convicted of on four of five charges against him, including lying to the FBI, lying to the Grand Jury and Obstruction of justice. Those are intrinsically crimes, regardless of your lame assertion that there was no "underlying" crime.
And while you're spewing bullshit like a perfume salesman in a department store, try telling us what a "purjury trap" is.
Clue ==> Purjury is lying under oath. NO LIE = NO PURJURY. :shocked:
Allowing anything less than complete honesty and truth under oath is an open invitation to the total corruption of our system of justice, which is exactly what the entire Bushwhacko administration has been doing since day one. :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown:
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I figured it was some bullcrap like that. Fox news, fair and balanced.... if your a neocon, koolaid drinking dunce.
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Umm... That's not what he was convicted of. Armitrage leaked Plame's name. And apparently what he did wasn't a crime because Fitz barely gave him a sniff. Why the administratin thought they had to cover this up I'll never know. Maybe it was just a reflex?
Yes, what Armitage did was probably a crime, but the way the statue is written for this crime it is a very difficult thing to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, especially with the White house stonewalling any kind of request for information, not allowing aides to testify, etc..
But Fitzgerald, being a good prosecutor, found other legal violations to prosecute with.
Or is only OK to use special prosecutors to investigate Democrats?
Maybe it's like the Padilla lawsuit, dismissed on jurisdictional grounds when they moved him and didn't tell his lawyer where they put him...
So sorry, but he wasn't in *that* jurisdiction when the suit was filed...
And HS is right, to a point- the Libby clemency and eventual pardon were inevitable. Couldn't put Scooter in the position where telling the truth would be more advantageous than lying... It was just bad timing for the Whitehouse, with the judge insisting Libby begin serving his sentence... obviously, the plan was to stretch it out past the election with the appeals process...
Unfortunately, obstruction of justice turns out to be just that.
I just heard that the judge, a W appointee, was also the judge that threw out the Cheney Energy Task Force suit. Coincidence?
So not to bring up Clinton, but if obstruction of justice and purjury, is obstruction of justice and purjury. How do you feel about Clinton?
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Though the way they sought to discredit Mr. Wilson may have been ?highly unsavory,? the judge said, ?there can be no serious dispute that the act of rebutting public criticism, such as that levied by Mr. Wilson against the Bush administration?s handling of prewar foreign intelligence, by speaking with members of the press is within the scope of defendants? duties as high-level executive branch officials.?
So basically the judge is saying that the administration can out a CIA agent in order to rebuff public criticism??
yeah this will be appealed.
link
So basically the judge is saying that the administration can out a CIA agent in order to rebuff public criticism??
yeah this will be appealed.
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