JPEGs on the internet wont desplay in IE

[Moonbeam]

I built a computer about 6 months ago for a friend that just got connected to the internet. It won't play jpegs or avi files. You get lits of colored dots and psychodelic scenes. A page will display beautifully except for the portion that is a jgeg. I pulled all the cards but the video card and ethernet adapter and reinstalled his Windows ME. Still no good. The case and power supply are enlight 300w. The motherboard is MSI pro 2 6330. The video card is AOpen Gforce mx 32. I live updated the bios, the 4 in 1 drivers the video driver. Nothing before or after any updates. Jpegs don't play. I borught it home and so far can't get connected to the internet, but downloaded to floppy a jpeg whidch displays perfectly on my Ilyama monitor. I see no conflicts, monitor and adaptor are listed properly. Any ideas what could be wrong?

If I can get the nic configured right and I can display jpegs on my monitor, that being the only difference, what could be wrong. He has a CTX, I think, 19 incher. I will have also to see if his will display the floppy disk saved jpeg. Any ideas? Thanks

 

[gsaldivar]

*sounds* like the Video card doesn't jibe with the OS perhaps??

First thing I would do: Ditch ME, and go with 98SE, or better yet W2K!

 

[Moonbeam]

Did it in 98SE too.

 

[GoSharks]

is this an amd cpu? sounds like the old amd+jpeg problem to me...

explaination

 

[Wingznut]

A MSI-6330 would be a SocketA motherboard. So, I don't think the K6 issue would apply.

 

[gsaldivar]

Maybe try swapping out the video card to rule that out as the cause...

 

[GoSharks]

<< A MSI-6330 would be a SocketA motherboard. So, I don't think the K6 issue would apply. >>



wingnut, it is a problem with the AMD-K6-2, Athlon, or Duron. (as stated in the title of the page i linked.. its late isnt it?)

 

[Moonbeam]

I will try swapping video cards when I can get one not in use. I will also switch to a PCI card instead of AGP. I have a very similar machine, pro2A instead of pro2 with a different gforcemx card, different monitor, and no jpeg problems at all. What has got me freaked is that the jpeg I downloaded will display fine at my house, the only difference being the monitor, mouse and keyboard. I guess I'll have to take it down to his house and try that floppy file on his system. I just thought to try his video card in my system to see if it screws up jpegs on my system. Will report back when I have additional data.

edit: The processor is a rather uncommon 650 thunderbird OEM that I also have in one of my systems that was less expensive than a Duron at the time.

 

[wasnlos]

i tend to agree with GOSHARKS, try another CPU.
i had that problem with one computer, too, and i almosr got crazy trying to find the error. i exchanged the cpu just because i had no other options left (by that time i didn't know of that particular issue of AMD CPUs) and what can i say, everything was fine.

 

[Moonbeam]

I can try switching the cpus too because I have two identical ones. If that's the problem I can give him mine because I'm about to replace it anyway.

 

[bacillus]

just out of interest, does he have &quot;show pictures&quot; option checked under internet options/advanced??

 

[manwithplan]

I had a similar problem when I reinstalled win2k recently. It didnt happen (I think) in ie5 or 5.5 but when i tried the ie6 beta it wouldnt display the jpegs. I have since uninstalled ie6 beta, gone to ie5.5sp2 and am now running the RTM release of ie6

The jpegs seem to be displaying fine now so I have no idea what the problem was!!!

And yes, Im running an athlon system on an MSI6167 mobo...

 

[Moonbeam]

bacillus, I'll check this afternoon, but I would assume so as it is a fresh install and no settings have been touched.

 

[majewski9]

I have an Athlon 1.33ghz and I do photo editing and web page design (Not often)! I use Photoshop, Illustrator, Dreamweaver, Fireworks, and Flash. I also use IE 5.5 and Navigator 4.78! Never not once have I had a problem with JPEGS. I don't see the connection between a processor and its ability to display a compressed image.

 

[GoSharks]

i feel i needed to share a response to a pm majewski9 sent me

hope you dont mind..

basicly majewski sent me a pm saying that what i have linked to is not true, and it never existed, well, fyi....

my good friend had a cpu that would do that stuff exactly as described. a 1ghz amd tbird. although i never saw it in person, i trust him, and his dad works for amd (read that guy likes AMD and hates intel)

 

[GoSharks]

argh.. dp

 

[edmicman]

but if he tried it at his own house and it worked with only a different monitor, keyboard, and mouse, why would it be the cpu, video card, or anything else INside the computer?!?

 

[Moonbeam]

OK, it doesn't work on my monitor either. I can view a jpeg in image viewer, but if I go to background in display and set the jpeg as a background, it comes out all goofy. I'm assuming that the internet jpegs will not display correctly. Will try switching video cards next. Bitmaps will work as backgrounds.

 

[ST4RCUTTER]

Moonbeam,
There was a small percentage of chips that were produced at Dresden that exhibited this characteristic. Apparently there was a testing procedure that was not developed until after the error was found and it involved such a small number of processors that pinning down the problem was difficult. Here is a site that fully explains the problem.

 

[Moonbeam]

ST4RCUTTER, I think you are right. I have an identical processor that I could try but I got it Artic silvered to its heatsink fan and I hate to separate them. These are so exactly the symptoms though that I think I'll just order a new one. Iffen it don't work I want a new processor for my machine anyway. Thanks to all for your help.

I just changed AGP video cards and tried a PCI video card. Same problem.

 

[overlordone]

If this is an AMD/JPEG/IE bug why is it not common with all IE explorer releases. Wasn't there problems connected with IE in relation to video drivers awhile back. I would 1st look there before going any futher with this bug theory. Have you recreated this phenomenon with any other browser other than MS freeware and why browser images? Why not any jpeg? Even when they sell it we still have to cleanup after them thru service packs and so forth. Even directx releases are usually bug ridden in some form hence incremental releases like 8 to 8.1.

 

[Moonbeam]

The article says that there is a small flaw that comes into play only in a set list of applications. I'm gonna get a new processor and give my identical 650 Thunderbird to my friend. I'll report back if my processor which I bought together with his solves the problem.

 

[formulav8]

The flaw will still show jpegs it just won't show them properly. They will be fuzzy or blurred or something.

 

[Phoenix15]

One of the pc's I built at my office had the same prob. I read a thread over at www.amdmb.com that pointed at the processor. I was skeptical at first but I switched it out,and voila, problem solved. I can't remember all of the details but the problem has something to do w/ the instruction set used by IE to display the images and a fault in a tiny percentage of amd cpu's. The recommended way to check if this is the case is to use Netscape and see if the problem persists. If it goes away replace the cpu and all will be well. just my .02 cents

 

[Moonbeam]

ST4RCUTTER's link has all the details and pictures of how the files are incorectly displayed.